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legendary
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1davout
December 15, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
#53
After all this talk I see now bitcoincentral.com points to localbitcoins.com

Yup, that's how Jeremias Kangas does business, guess he can go fuck himself.
I don't think he'll ever recoup his investment though since this domain isn't used anymore.

And davout seems to have changed in his way of answering to people in this reddit topic

Sometimes I have patience for derps, sometimes not.
newbie
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December 10, 2014, 04:23:47 PM
#52
After all this talk I see now bitcoincentral.com points to localbitcoins.com

Just for the record.

And davout seems to have changed in his way of answering to people in this reddit topic
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29q2mp/with_paymium_european_merchants_can_now_accept/
legendary
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Away on an extended break
December 30, 2012, 10:58:49 PM
#51
Not to take any sides, but I personally agree that Ashley has done nothing wrong here at all. Bitcoincentral.com is a valuable domain name, and even more so than the bitcoin-central.net site. I doubt the person who paid $1000 for the domain wants to use it to scam - $1k is too much to pay for that considering that only inexperienced users (with less $) on their hands would have got scammed by a phishing site like that. On the long term, I sincerely believe that the domain name would be worth loads more than the paltry $1k paid now.

PS; The 'go fuck yourself' statement is really impolite and unprofessional, especially when it was said to someone polite enough to offer you the domain in the first place. Most people would have demanded a bigger sum instead.

"Not to take sides, but I agree with Ashley's side absolutely"
Agreeing with facts and taking sides blatantly is a different matter altogether. I am agreeing to the statement that he has done no wrong here.
sr. member
Activity: 330
Merit: 397
December 30, 2012, 06:32:37 PM
#50
Not to take any sides, but I personally agree that Ashley has done nothing wrong here at all. Bitcoincentral.com is a valuable domain name, and even more so than the bitcoin-central.net site. I doubt the person who paid $1000 for the domain wants to use it to scam - $1k is too much to pay for that considering that only inexperienced users (with less $) on their hands would have got scammed by a phishing site like that. On the long term, I sincerely believe that the domain name would be worth loads more than the paltry $1k paid now.

PS; The 'go fuck yourself' statement is really impolite and unprofessional, especially when it was said to someone polite enough to offer you the domain in the first place. Most people would have demanded a bigger sum instead.

"Not to take sides, but I agree with Ashley's side absolutely"
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 28, 2012, 12:43:33 PM
#49
For the record I got offered to "rent" the domains, because apparently the .net and .com versions belong to the same person.

Looks like it.

Was this offer made to you recently?
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 250
December 28, 2012, 12:34:26 PM
#48
Only an moron trusts BTC to a website PERIOD.  Move them in and out or leave them to guys like Pirateat40 to steal.
LOL, still get a laugh that morons gave coins to a guy named Pirate
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
December 28, 2012, 12:13:02 PM
#47
davout. seriously. put your professional hat on and refrain from profanities.

you are no longer another armchair activist, or a personal investor.

you are now a financial services provider. you need to adjust your professionalism accordingly.

the key point is:
you do not want mainstream media quoting the only customer contact of bitcoin central to be from someone shouting obscenities.

I don't think Davout can help himself; he's pretty much a professional asshat.   Tongue

That's what happens when parents don't discipline, they unleash impulsive bratty pseudo-adults with no self-control into the world.   Undecided

legendary
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1davout
December 28, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
#46
For the record I got offered to "rent" the domains, because apparently the .net and .com versions belong to the same person.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
December 28, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
#45
I'm extremely amused at this thread, did anyone actually check what happens if you type "bitcoin-central.com" in a browser?
Yep, that's what I thought.

And ashley, sorry for being rude, but when the thread started I still thought it was all about cyber-squatting, which is provably not, looking at the WHOIS. But you probably got that from my posts on page 1, unlike most of the haters in this thread for which actually reading a thread to get an educated opinion is probably asking too much.

Why does it always seem that the first person to denounce 'haters' in an online argument is usually the one making hateful comments?  Is it some variant of Godwin's law at play?
full member
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FUTURE OF CRYPTO IS HERE!
December 28, 2012, 09:24:36 AM
#44
the other method, which inaba(BFL) has adopted is to create another username for official announcements where restaint and professionalism is mandatory.

Everything you say and what you do tells something about your character. It does not matter in what context I learn about the typical behaviour, honesty and moral of a person and whether that person can be trusted or not. Especially the last posts of Inaba I believe truly show the character in a deep way and it affects the picture of BFL_Josh and also the picture whole company as the character behaviour happens to explain a lot of the things that have happened to the company. True or false, I don't know. But that is life and realities of public communication and its pitfalls.

It is actually worse to have two completely different personalities. In that case can you really trust anything at all? I would be far more willing to do business with a total arsehole, rather than someone with a split personality syndrome.

Splitting official company announcements from personal writings if of course okay and expected. In this case there is no split personality problem as the other is account for the company and another is for a person. But everything you do on the personal account still affects of the picture of your character and how you can be expected to behave when working for the company.
legendary
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December 28, 2012, 07:25:36 AM
#43
davout. seriously. put your professional hat on and refrain from profanities.

you are no longer another armchair activist, or a personal investor.

you are now a financial services provider. you need to adjust your professionalism accordingly.

continue to post proof of your defence or statements of facts. but do so in a professional way. replying 'on the whim' without restraint need to be limited.

the other method, which inaba(BFL) has adopted is to create another username for official announcements where restaint and professionalism is mandatory.

the key point is:
you do not want mainstream media quoting the only customer contact of bitcoin central to be from someone shouting obscenities.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1008
1davout
December 28, 2012, 06:47:48 AM
#42
I'm extremely amused at this thread, did anyone actually check what happens if you type "bitcoin-central.com" in a browser?
Yep, that's what I thought.

And ashley, sorry for being rude, but when the thread started I still thought it was all about cyber-squatting, which is provably not, looking at the WHOIS. But you probably got that from my posts on page 1, unlike most of the haters in this thread for which actually reading a thread to get an educated opinion is probably asking too much.
full member
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December 28, 2012, 05:55:43 AM
#41
What kind of unprofessional idiot would pass up the opportunity to get their domain name so cheaply when its a premium one ?

bitcoin-central.net must be a shitty business if it cant afford that.
legendary
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Away on an extended break
December 28, 2012, 03:05:32 AM
#40
Not to take any sides, but I personally agree that Ashley has done nothing wrong here at all. Bitcoincentral.com is a valuable domain name, and even more so than the bitcoin-central.net site. I doubt the person who paid $1000 for the domain wants to use it to scam - $1k is too much to pay for that considering that only inexperienced users (with less $) on their hands would have got scammed by a phishing site like that. On the long term, I sincerely believe that the domain name would be worth loads more than the paltry $1k paid now.

PS; The 'go fuck yourself' statement is really impolite and unprofessional, especially when it was said to someone polite enough to offer you the domain in the first place. Most people would have demanded a bigger sum instead.
donator
Activity: 1731
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December 28, 2012, 02:03:19 AM
#39
+4. The lack of professionalism displayed by numerous proprietors in the bitcoin economy is, in a word, disappointing. Bitcoin is very young with incredible potential. YOU GUYS - the first movers creating and operating businesses in the nascent bitcoin economy - are the public face of bitcoin, and the most important points of contact with the masses of future users. Especially with bitcoin's still dubious reputation and coming off of a year of ugly scams and nonsense, to have anything less than stellar and pristine public behavior by cornerstone members of the ecosystem is unacceptable.

Every time I see such unfortunate behavior I sigh to myself and think bitcoin has a bit farther to go than I'd assumed. Obviously this is a community of aggressive, mostly young, often previously inexperienced entrepreneurs who are more interested in building businesses and value than worrying about civility online. But still....come on. Act like the potential we all know is here.

Just sayin'.

I agree, good example of an entrepreneur underestimating the work required and future value of correctly marketing his product.

I'm stunned how someone couldn't see the value of BitcoinCentral.com in itself as being worth around these figures without a parallel bitcoin-central.net exchange service.  IMO, in the long term, it is more likely that whatever service is to be hosted at the less notable domain "bitcoin-central.net" is to devaluate bitcoincentral.com .

I'm happy for you ashleyconnor.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
December 28, 2012, 01:40:51 AM
#38
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FTFY
Also go fuck yourself.
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No name was stolen, a brand got built though, and AFAIK it was here first
etc...

I for one will think twice before using your service from now on, seeng your unprofessional attitude here.

I was thinking the same. I will not use bitcoin-central.net and will not recommend it to anyone.

+2

I also quit using bitcoin-central because of davout's childish behavior here on the forums. Long ago, that is.

Ditto. Its hilariously unprofessional to just scream 'go fuck yourself' at someone who makes you an offer, and in the public eye. If the offer was too much/overpriced or whatever, should have just been like 'lol no thanks' and left it at that. Totally uncalled for, especially when you didnt even respond to him (her?) at all. Why would anyone want to do business with you if your just going to be a total bitch when a deal doesn't sound good to you?


+4. The lack of professionalism displayed by numerous proprietors in the bitcoin economy is, in a word, disappointing. Bitcoin is very young with incredible potential. YOU GUYS - the first movers creating and operating businesses in the nascent bitcoin economy - are the public face of bitcoin, and the most important points of contact with the masses of future users. Especially with bitcoin's still dubious reputation and coming off of a year of ugly scams and nonsense, to have anything less than stellar and pristine public behavior by cornerstone members of the ecosystem is unacceptable.

Every time I see such unfortunate behavior I sigh to myself and think bitcoin has a bit farther to go than I'd assumed. Obviously this is a community of aggressive, mostly young, often previously inexperienced entrepreneurs who are more interested in building businesses and value than worrying about civility online. But still....come on. Act like the potential we all know is here.

Just sayin'.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
December 27, 2012, 09:09:11 PM
#37
Why would anyone sell something for $14.98, when offered $1000?

lol.

$9.99 fee + 50% is $14.98


bitcoin-central how much are you making per week? I'll buy your company for what you make per day + 50%.
hero member
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firstbits:1MinerQ
December 27, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
#36
I'm still trying to sell vanitycoin.com for 1 btc... anyone?
hero member
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December 27, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
#35
What would have happened after, someone offering bitcoin-central.io for $2000? What next, secure-bitcoin-central.net for $500? And then bticoin-central.net for $1500?

.com holds significantly more weight and value than .io, .net, etc.  Surely you know this.
edd
donator
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December 27, 2012, 03:19:48 PM
#34
If I happened to owned bitcoincentral.com, but did nothing with it, and a similarly named entity came along and developed an enterprise around it, I would have offered the domain I had control of to them first, taking the first, and hopefully, best offer from them. This thought process only applies to Bitcoin entities, for in a different world I would press for a prevailing price point.

On a similar note, edd owns the domain bitcoin100.org, and I pay for hosting and provide the content. If Ed was offered some big chuck of change for the domain, I'm sure he would make me known of that fact first, seeing if I can come close to the offer price. If I can't, I would have no problem with letting him move forward with the sale, hopefully having him donate some coins toward the newly branded Bitcoin 100 hosted with a new domain name that I (the organization) would have control of.

With the exception of the above, I'll refrain from taking sides in this dispute, hoping that it'll be formidably resolved in a timely manner.

~Bruno K~

Each situation is unique. I've bought dozens of bitcoin themed domains without developing them myself for different reasons. Almost every one was purchased with the intent to grow it into a site I would control and manage myself but, as time goes on, I've come to realize I may not be able to do that with all of them. Whenever I consider what each is worth, I weigh the time and effort involved to turn it into a viable endeavor against the profit which might be realized from a sale. I wish there was a simple formula I could fall back on to determine what a domain was worth but, unfortunately, there isn't.

I jumped on Bitcoin100.org simply because I couldn't believe no one had taken it before Bruno thought of it and I didn't want a squatter to snatch it up first. Now, I consider it an honor to be allowed to pay for its registration fees but would turn it over to Phinnaeus or Rassah at no charge without a second's thought.

I've auctioned off domains that I knew I would never be able to devote time to and will probably do it again. I've also bid on domains and made private offers for "valuable" ones. Sometimes the final asking price was within my budget, sometimes it wasn't. In every case, I firmly believed it was the seller's prerogative to ask for whatever price he or she thought was fair.
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