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Topic: Q: Should hilariousandco *really* be a moderator of bitcointalk A: no - page 3. (Read 2851 times)

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Again, delusional rambling that couldn't be further from the reality. I think that all the escrow scamming and shilling is getting to your head.
Then again, considering the amount of farmed accounts that were abusing campaigns, sold accounts and scammers that I've tagged, my removal would certainly be beneficial for you and your gang. Smiley
Let me make one thing very clear, you have not left negative trust against any of my unknown alts now or previous as of when I owned them. Furthermore, the amount of money you have cost me in any way is exactly zero. I do not stand to profit in anyway from your removal from the default trust network other than the fact that the trust system and marketplace would have more credibility.
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Again, delusional rambling that couldn't be further from the reality. I think that all the escrow scamming and shilling is getting to your head.
Then again, considering the amount of farmed accounts that were abusing campaigns, sold accounts and scammers that I've tagged, my removal would certainly be beneficial for you and your gang. Smiley
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I think h&c has done a lot for the forum and community over the years and is normally someone I would place a lot of trust in.

Lauda admits upthread his extortion attempt and the facts lauda has admitted to would allow any reasonable person with an understanding of the law to conclude lauda attempted to extort zeroaxel. The fact that no specific amount was asked for is not relevant. The fact that lauda did not receive any money only means his attempt was unsuccessful (his crime is attempted extortion instead of extortion).

Ignoring the above, lauda has a history of trolling those who question him and refuses to have a public discussion about any of his ratings. Even if his ratings were factually accurate (I believe many of them are not), many of his negative ratings are for things that no reasonable person would consider to be a scam. This alone is reason enough to question the integrity of anyone who puts lauda in a position of trust, and/or authority. I can post examples of this however I don't think this fact is really unknown to both of laudas default trust sponsors. If necessary I will post examples of this so neither of them can claim ignorance, however anything I post in this regard should be news to either hc or blazed.

There are other additional reasons why I believe lauda should not be in the default trust network, nor in any position of trust or authority, however this is not what this thread is about.

This might be an oversight or a bad judgment call that is forgivable on hc's part, provided it is quickly addressed. However I don't think anyone who puts someone that fits the above description in a position of trust or power should himself be in a position of trust, power or the authority to exercise his good judgment.
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Get your game girl
If hilariousandco is the reason why an extortionist is on Default Trust, then what is the basis for trusting him to impartially moderate the forum?
Because forum moderation has nothing to do with adding people to the trust list ? I don't see no correlation between trusting someone and deleting shitty posts ? 

For as long as lauda remains on hilariousandco's trust list, I believe it be appropriate to both remove hilariousandco from being a Global Moderator, and remove him from Default Trust.
I don't see no point in that.Plus hilariousandco is the only moderator who responds to a lot of mod related queries on the forum.

I move to have hilariousandco removed from being a moderator and being on Default Trust effective immediately.  

For as long as both hilariousandco remains a moderator and on Default Trust, and lauda remains on hilariousandco's trust list, I understand theymos agrees this behavior is acceptable.
You need to understand Default Trust Lists has nothing to do with the moderation.
legendary
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I assume I will be dragged into this next so here is my answer...no need for a special Blazed thread  Cool

You assume correct:

A thread regarding Blazed is forthcoming is Lauda is not removed from his trust list.  

The thread will be pretty boring. I think he will be pretty hard pressed to find any person I have ever screwed/scammed/wronged/etc... in this space. If the point of the thread is simply about having Lauda in my list then do not bother as I have stated he helps a lot more than hurts the community. I never gave QS a negative for the same reasons when he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
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I assume I will be dragged into this next so here is my answer...no need for a special Blazed thread  Cool

You assume correct:

A thread regarding Blazed is forthcoming is Lauda is not removed from his trust list. 
legendary
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Theymos can remove me from default trust for all I care. More hassle than it's worth. I will probably rarely add people to it anyway.

I trust Lauda's ratings here regardless of what he did and think he is of benefit to the community being on default trust, but if I felt he was abusing his position on there for personal vendettas or to extort people then I would have no issue in removing him.




I agree with what Hilarious says here about Lauda and DT being a pain. I assume I will be dragged into this next so here is my answer...no need for a special Blazed thread  Cool
legendary
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Theymos can remove me from default trust for all I care. More hassle than it's worth. I will probably rarely add people to it anyway.



You earned this with your hard work, you deserve to be in default list. Just ignore other till there is enough proof and forum gave others many chances but when they got power they misused it and lost it.
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Theymos can remove me from default trust for all I care. More hassle than it's worth. I will probably rarely add people to it anyway.

I too have the hassle of being in default trust.  With great power comes great responsibility.  You will always be hounded on your decisions.

You are respected here.  Don't let one coward tell you differently.  

Leave DT on your volition - don't let the scammers chase you out.  I've been called the worst name imaginable (pedophile), yet I persevere.   You are better than me.
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I understand theymos agrees this behavior is acceptable.
That behavior is not acceptable (the case of the latter; the former link is bullshit) and everyone reasonable at this point knows that it was ill-devised / not thought through. This is turning into ad nauseum / harassment.

..to extort people then I would have no issue in removing him.
No more sting operations of that kind, or any kind for that matter.

For crying out loud, man up and post with your main account Quickseller.
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Theymos can remove me from default trust for all I care. More hassle than it's worth. I will probably rarely add people to it anyway.

I trust Lauda's ratings here regardless of what he did and think he is of benefit to the community being on default trust, but if I felt he was abusing his position on there for personal vendettas or to extort people then I would have no issue in removing him.


Vod
legendary
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There is no evidence of any judgement call being made as a result of less than above-board reasons. So I think this campaign of yours will not have any effect. If you desperately want Launda out of DT2 trust, you are better off convincing other DT1 members to exclude him.

Quickseller's method of convincing them is to extort them.   Undecided
legendary
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Hilariousandco is one of the last few effective moderators.
His trust list has no relation to his functioning as a moderator.
This relates to his ability to be trusted. As a global moderator, hilariousandco is trusted to make judgement calls anonymously every day. If many bad judgment calls are made, then it will probably stick out and theymos will see, however if a judgment call is made as a result of less than above-board reasons, then any dispute will be nothing more than he-said, she-said speculation. 

There is no evidence of any judgement call being made as a result of less than above-board reasons. So I think this campaign of yours will not have any effect. If you desperately want Launda out of DT2 trust, you are better off convincing other DT1 members to exclude him.
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No I dont escrow anymore.
I dont agree that this has influence on hilariousandco's moderation work, but Im in support of an open discussion regarding the trusted status of Lauda.
If hilariousandco is putting an extortionist in a position of power and authority publicly, then how can we trust him to take moderation actions that are, by definition anonymous?

Believing that Lauda behaves like this for the sake of the community does not makes the person believing it a complete morron by default that is no longer able to do what they have been done well for a long time. If you argue like this, no one should read anything you said, because you made the mistake of escrowing for yourself in the past.
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legendary
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This relates to his ability to be trusted. As a global moderator, hilariousandco is trusted to make judgement calls anonymously every day. If many bad judgment calls are made, then it will probably stick out and theymos will see, however if a judgment call is made as a result of less than above-board reasons, then any dispute will be nothing more than he-said, she-said speculation.  

He makes those decisions everyday and people stand behind him.  People trust him.  

Everything you post is a "what if" scenario.  hilariousandco needs to make ONE bad judgement before (even a scammer like you) can accuse him of having many.

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I dont agree that this has influence on hilariousandco's moderation work, but Im in support of an open discussion regarding the trusted status of Lauda.
If hilariousandco is putting an extortionist in a position of power and authority publicly, then how can we trust him to take moderation actions that are, by definition anonymous?


Quote from: botany
Hilariousandco is one of the last few effective moderators.
His trust list has no relation to his functioning as a moderator.
This relates to his ability to be trusted. As a global moderator, hilariousandco is trusted to make judgement calls anonymously every day. If many bad judgment calls are made, then it will probably stick out and theymos will see, however if a judgment call is made as a result of less than above-board reasons, then any dispute will be nothing more than he-said, she-said speculation. 
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No I dont escrow anymore.
I dont agree that this has influence on hilariousandco's moderation work, but Im in support of an open discussion regarding the trusted status of Lauda.
legendary
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hilariousandco should not be a moderator because of his stance on extortionists. He currently has an extortionist on his trust list (Lauda), who has admitted to the extortion, not once, but twice.

If hilariousandco is the reason why an extortionist is on Default Trust, then what is the basis for trusting him to impartially moderate the forum?

For as long as lauda remains on hilariousandco's trust list, I believe it be appropriate to both remove hilariousandco from being a Global Moderator, and remove him from Default Trust.

I move to have hilariousandco removed from being a moderator and being on Default Trust effective immediately.  

For as long as both hilariousandco remains a moderator and on Default Trust, and lauda remains on hilariousandco's trust list, I understand theymos agrees this behavior is acceptable.

Hilariousandco is one of the last few effective moderators.
His trust list has no relation to his functioning as a moderator.
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hilariousandco should not be a moderator because of his stance on extortionists. He currently has an extortionist on his trust list (Lauda), who has admitted to the extortion, not once, but twice.

If hilariousandco is the reason why an extortionist is on Default Trust, then what is the basis for trusting him to impartially moderate the forum?

For as long as lauda remains on hilariousandco's trust list, I believe it be appropriate to both remove hilariousandco from being a Global Moderator, and remove him from Default Trust.

I move to have hilariousandco removed from being a moderator and being on Default Trust effective immediately.  

This is Quickseller.

hilariousandco is a trusted member of this forum.  Quickseller is not.

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ignoring the fact your post is inaccurate, you are posting nothing more than an ad hominem attack and fail to address the issues behind my post.

You are clearly either unable or unwilling to argue points intelligently. Until you are willing to argue the topic based on merits and not based on emotion and not based on ad hominem attacks, please refrain from posting in this thread.
It's not emotional. You're a scammer and have no business engaging in a discussion about ethics or who should be in DT.  You've proven yourself unable to comprehend what it means to be trustworthy.  Your view of right and wrong is severely distorted.   I would also add that the last dozen threads about lauda and hilariousandco failed to garner support,  as will the next 10,000 threads you or your alts start.  No one gives a shit about your personal butthurt vendettas.
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As I previously stated, please refrain from posting in this thread if you are not capable of arguing the merits of my request. Thank you.

Please stop posting from fake accounts trying to boost your credibility.  You are not trusted.  hilariousandco is.
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