Topic: QTUM - calling all S-C-A-M Hunters. Billionaires, whales, chinese exchanges?? (Read 7852 times)

Is it verified true?? and do these whales and other prestigious btc figures know its (QTUMS) founder is unraveling as previous scammer? How to contact roger ver I hope he has not been duped? is he even involved or perhaps they are just name dropping to garner support and legitimacy. What about the legit Billionaire?

What's up with QTUM - looks great - invested in by billionaires - backed by BTC whales - new chinese exchanges ready to accept and trade - great sig campaign - forbes, crypto publications all love it .... looked like a great new project right??

I thought it looked and sounded very appealing and was going to throw my usual btc weight around 0.1 - 0.25 btc for rare and promising ico gems.

But wait I am told 2 days ago that the founder is steven dai (now calling himself patrick dai) a known scammer extracting over 200BTC from bitbays investors and then refusing to do any work at all on the project ....but rather just take the 200 BTC and start his own new project QTUM

IS THIS CORRECT?? - seems like that shouldn't really work out too well.?

Is it even true there are billionaires, rodger ver and other very well known members of the btc community backing this or is that all just a load of scam propaganda?

I would love to see the real scam investigators look into this before 100% drawing conclusions about it.

I went to the qtum thread to hear more about it and there is nobody there with any real authority or knowledge to comment on it.

I have no investigative skills. So who can help us all out here and find out if this really is the very same steven dai that is a known scammer.

These guys need to be notified asap too... if you know how to directly contact any of them perhaps we should do our bit to at least give them the chance in investigate this themselves.

blah blah.... Chen Weixing, the billionaire founder of Kuaidi being in the fold, there is Anthony Di Iorio, Ethereum founder and CEO of JaxxWallet; Jeremy Gardner, co-founder of Augur and EIR at Blockchain Capital; David Lee Cuo Chuen, founder of Left Coast, Libai, and DLEE Capital Management.

Then there is Bo Shen, General Partner at Fenbushi Capital; Jehan Chu, Managing Partner at Jen Advisors; Qingzhong Gao, director of Huawei Strategic Cooperation; Xu Star, OKCoin CEO; Lihua Yi; and, Partner of ZhongWo Investment. Add to that Xiaolai Li, one of biggest bitcoin holders in the world and a Blockchain Angel backer.

This is like the DD and scrutiny all these ICOs should go through reall especially the big ones.

It starts in march so we have time to analyse all of this thoroughly.

Great project or scammer self enrichment scheme building up steem?

This is not a techincal analysis of the project this is an investigation into the possible scammer who is the founder and probably main beneficiary of this project

scam project or scammer or what?


Nothing except blatantly off topic or copious swearing will be deleted. If you don't like it create your own thread and say anything you like.

What should happen if there is fire to accompany this toxic smoke?

maybe you can see here, not exactly 10m, but 10k btc and 60k eth,it's worth $ 12m. and made me even more interested in roadmap to wait until next year.

where's the proof of 10m?

worst try to shill here bro.

increasingly cornered to the OP, where ico Qtum can be raised over $ 10 million, is a crowdsale explosion that occurred in mid-semester. although there is drama in the team Qtum, but raise more than $ 10 million is a pride by the team Qtum.

I waiting for the day he is going to go through with his threat and sell his claimed Bitcoin stash, this is someone that Bitcoin made and decided to block the obvious choice to scale Bitcoin because the blockstream team excluded him from the SegWit cake

Please distinguish between the corrupt seniorage system of fiat and that of correctly distributed crypto-currency.

Corrupt top-down controlled systems rot and decay. Decentralized paradigms are antifragile. Gold is no longer decentralized because it has lost its unit-of-account and unit-of-exchange usage, thus the market makers (for liquidity) are top-down controlled.

What part of Monero's protocol doesn't transfer tokens to anyone except if they burn electricity do you not comprehend?

If you can't understand the relevance of that distinction to decentralization, then you are not qualified to tell anyone about crypto.

tl;dr is @Spoetnik is more concerned with ego than facts.

He seems to be entirely oblivious to the egregious distinction of decentralization between the two coins he is writing about.

So he is an example of exactly what he complains about: the ignorance of speculators.

Re: Roger Ver Send First 100k Payment in Dash

I must remark that the ability to manipulate the FOMO ignorance of speculators with irrelevant hype is the hallmark of a system where the insiders have worked out some "I'll scratch your back, if you scratch mine" deal. Such deals are possible because the system is not decentralized, but in actuality the private fiat system of those who are profiting off the ability to offer special deals because of the insider control over the money supply and ongoing issue of the money supply.

In short, "Evan Inc" in all likelihood made a deal with Roger Ver and Casey Research. Everybody gets paid off with your money. More dumb "greater fools" money is drawn in, rinse, repeat, and everybody is happy.

What they've done is brought the pink sheets mining stocks corruption (which Casey Research is intimately involved with) into our ecosystem.

Speculation markets are ruled top-down. The only way to move away from "mining the speculators" is to trump them in the adoption market.

I agree unless someone demonstrates that both Dash and Ethereum are not truly viable for adoption and another way is. Then you can see both of them implode, if they can't adopt that other paradigm quickly enough.

That is a lot of "ifs". For the near-term, I agree with you that the likely outcome is more interest piled into these (what I think are "mine the speculator") paradigms.

I think you are just jealous of Dash being a Monero Cult Member Zealot.
Dash just keeps going up & up and Monero is like a rock in your xmas stocking  
Come to terms with it you picked the wrong coin to bag-hold.
[FACTS] = Dash rocks your face !

You learned your lesson to huh ?
NEVER use my "FACTS" tag man.. mod's will fuck you up !    

But seriously, you have shown yourself to be a rabid manic Dash hater here big time.. WHY ?
Did Evan steal your your Girl-Friend or what ?
Did he put his seed in your sisters belly ? ..i don't get it  

I bring the FACTS !

What do you bring ? A whole lot of trolling topics the staff here have to delete.
Don't believe me people ? Scroll down he had two of them removed today alone.

Why should i play along with a fanatical spaz ?
Seek professional help.. you can flop on your back and rail on about the evil Spoetnik.  

PS:
Dash = $46.19 ..and rising        

I'd say we have no more proof of scam or manipulation for Dash, Monero or Qtum.
It's not easy to have a smoking gun.. we can't see inside people's heads.
They loiter in a grey area of plausible deniability.. circumstantial shit etc.

What i do see is liars from Monero and honest answers from Dash guys.
If there are negative aspects to the coin etc then so what.. put it on the table.
Monero assholes don't.. they lie their ass off (For Years)

And Qtum ?
A lot more suspicious looking than both combined and.. an ICO !
And you will notice there is a HUGE team of silence LOL

So i see 1 group silent.
I see 1 vocal and fairly honest and up front about shit.
And the last one who loiters around trolling and denying they have skeletons in their closet.

You all can tell which is which i am sure

PS:
I have no intention of owning any of those 3 coins EVER !

wow that is pretty nasty and the only negative i have focused on before was that it's a clone of Quark with another algo tacked on to it.
..sad it just looks wore and worse all the time for this ultra scammy coin !

And ?

Start a Roger Ver is a monster in the Altcoin scene topic then.
And again i am not for or against the guy either.
Indifferent.

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EDIT:
Blows me away the topic below this one is Risto's forum game topic.. do i have to point out why that is bad ? Again ?

I love how you focus like a laser beam on one guy and ignore the other you know well for years on end.

And ?

Start a Roger Ver is a monster in the Altcoin scene topic then.