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Whatever coins you have before the fork you will get an equal number in the individual Core and XT forks, IF the fork were indeed to happen. You don't need to run an XT Client before the fork for this to happen. I would imagine that XT and Core would quickly end up having vastly different prices, with one of them approaching 0.

Do i need to download the XT version to possess Bitcoin XT (depending whether i have bitcoins in the core version)? and can i not sell the XT bitcoins while holding the Bitcoin core bitcoins? And last thing is there a possibility that XT and Core will have different prices?

Its not an altcoin. If you have Bitcoin then you also have "Bitcoin XT"

IF there is a big controversy and split in the eco system merchants might require that your TX is accepted on both chains for a while, but ultimately the chain with bigger blocks will win.

Where can i buy Bitcoin XT?

Download current and future versions of Bitcoin XT here: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/releases/

Use this site to track Bitcoin XT node adoption: http://www.xtnodes.com   (100 nodes and counting. The number of XT nodes was only about 50 a week ago, and about 25 the week before that. So it is increasing quite quickly, and the block-size change hasn't even been released yet. It's promising.)

common misconception: "20MB is too big of a jump"
answer: It's just a maximum block-size limit. It does not mean we are going to instantly start making 20mb blocks. Blocks will continue growing at their current pace. This is perhaps the biggest misconception that we will somehow suddenly start seeing 20mb blocks just because the limit is raised.

Do you know why there is a discrepancy?

Also, getaddr.bitnodes.io does show XT in the useragent display. The User agent string begins with /Bitcoin XT... and has the rest of the version string after it. Look again in the list.

So we just give 100% decision making power to one person in the Bitcoin XT fork? {That is what he suggested} What if this person become a dictator? They have the key to the kingdom and they control your money?

Gavin Andresen handed the keys to Wladimir J. van der Laan and Mike Hearn and some other people, feel Wladimir is not strong enough to make big decisions. {They want a dictator style lead developer, who has the final say} To remedy this, they create Bitcoin XT and forced a situation with the whole 20mb block fiasco. {They say.. We will see if Wladimir makes a dicision, IF NOT we will go ahead with XT}

Do we want people, who make decisions like that?

Many countries do not trust Bitcoin, based on it's western dominance in the core development. They supported it to a degree, because the decision making was done with some sort of democratic consensus.

The question : Would you support a Global currency, if one person had 100% control over the final decision making at Core development level?

Yes, the nodes is still decentralized, but the software they host, is in control of one or two people.... with 100% decision making power.

His answer : If you are not a engineer or a core developer, you have no say or opinion on the matter... WTF? We all have opinions.. right or wrong.. It's our money and we have a say. 

It is not a simple majority, it will be a super-majority (>90%) of all nodes run Bitcoin XT or something that supports the larger blocks. Once that happens, there will be an announcement for when and which block will be the block that hard forks, so it is not random and people will know that it is coming.

Not necessarily. Gavin has stated he wanted to keep the 750K soft limit a few times.
I just asked him on Twitter for confirmation. Will update when he replies.

All you guys who are so sure this fork is the way to go need to start putting your money where your mouth is. Right now the odds are 12 to 1 against, so there is a decent chunk of change to be made here. Plus, I'm sure if the yes side gets some action, it will be matched rather quickly.

bitcoin holders have no say in either development or voting
bitcoin node operators have true voting power but still no say over development

Let's see if the node operators vote for XT

I get too much contradicting info from all angles. I am selling guys, you can all suck a monkeydick.

So we just give 100% decision making power to one person in the Bitcoin XT fork? {That is what he suggested} What if this person become a dictator? They have the key to the kingdom and they control your money?

Gavin Andresen handed the keys to Wladimir J. van der Laan and Mike Hearn and some other people, feel Wladimir is not strong enough to make big decisions. {They want a dictator style lead developer, who has the final say} To remedy this, they create Bitcoin XT and forced a situation with the whole 20mb block fiasco. {They say.. We will see if Wladimir makes a dicision, IF NOT we will go ahead with XT}

Do we want people, who make decisions like that?

Many countries do not trust Bitcoin, based on it's western dominance in the core development. They supported it to a degree, because the decision making was done with some sort of democratic consensus.

The question : Would you support a Global currency, if one person had 100% control over the final decision making at Core development level?

Yes, the nodes is still decentralized, but the software they host, is in control of one or two people.... with 100% decision making power.

His answer : If you are not a engineer or a core developer, you have no say or opinion on the matter... WTF? We all have opinions.. right or wrong.. It's our money and we have a say.