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Get your filthy fiat off me you damn dirty state.
June 21, 2015, 02:53:27 PM
#98
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

The XT threads were moved over to the alt section and have since been moved back: 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-move-all-threads-regarding-the-fork-to-altcoin-discussion-1090801

Once XT hardforks, it will be an altcoin. I was thinking that it was supposed to hardfork today, so I didn't move the threads back when I saw them moved yesterday. I moved them back for now.

As someone who started one of the XT threads, I can confirm this is true. I not only saw it, I got email notifications when it was moved and when it was moved back. Both times it was moved by "anonymous."
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June 21, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
#97
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

The XT threads were moved over to the alt section and have since been moved back: 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-move-all-threads-regarding-the-fork-to-altcoin-discussion-1090801

Once XT hardforks, it will be an altcoin. I was thinking that it was supposed to hardfork today, so I didn't move the threads back when I saw them moved yesterday. I moved them back for now.
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June 21, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
#96
Wait, you can sync the entire 6+ year blockchain in 1 hour? how's that even possible? what are you system specs and how much does it take to sync the entire network in Bitcoin Core for comparative purposes?

easy done with a server and a 1gb/s connexion ... french member have report this, too with a 0.10.x branch.

Code:
Serveur Dedibox LT 2014
Xeon E3 1230v2
16 Go
2 x 1 To
1Gbit/sec

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9651523
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June 21, 2015, 02:34:56 PM
#95
MOD: Please move this to the altcoin section.

Sorry this talk is about bitcoins and should be here in this section.

Westin, how do you think there will be two chains?  Even if there is a second 5% chain, no one will take those coins as payment, and no one will want to mine on that chain.  Even if there are those coins they will be useless if nobody will use them.
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June 21, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
#94
MOD: Please move this to the altcoin section.
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June 21, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
#93
I'm going to have to disagree with this, but I understand why you're saying it. In a sense, Bitcoin XT is an alternative wallet for Bitcoin, like Electrum and MultiBit are. This supports what you're saying. However, Electrum and MultiBit (AFAIK) do not change the consensus algorithm. Bitcoin XT is about to change the consensus algorithm.

Suppose Electrum updated their wallet so that it would check a different POW algorithm than sha256 after a certain block height. It's clear to me that after that block height it would no longer be a wallet for Bitcoin. One could argue that it's no longer a wallet for Bitcoin as soon as the alternative code is released. It might agree with Bitcoin for a while, but the fact that the consensus code is different means it isn't the same coin -- it will just appear to be for a while.

Bitcoin XT is in the process of changing the consensus code. I understand that the people who support this change will insist on calling it "Bitcoin." But if both chains survive, it seems like the one following the older consensus algorithm has more of a claim to the older name.

I know that the official position of those in favor of bigger blocks is: the old chain will not survive. I'm not sure if this is wishful thinking or a strategy to keep people who support Bitcoin (as it is defined today) from trying to see it through this crisis.
Well I could only partially agree. Bitcoin XT is currently similar to them as it is an alternative. However, are Electrum or Multibit going to do a hard fork and start a new chain? I doubt it.
There is a difference. The worst part of it is that they want it done so bad that they would even consider doing it will much less than 95% consensus.
I've started questioning their really intentions with this.
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June 21, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
#92
Bitcoin XT is an alt the same way Electrum and MultiBit are alts.

I'm going to have to disagree with this, but I understand why you're saying it. In a sense, Bitcoin XT is an alternative wallet for Bitcoin, like Electrum and MultiBit are. This supports what you're saying. However, Electrum and MultiBit (AFAIK) do not change the consensus algorithm. Bitcoin XT is about to change the consensus algorithm.

Suppose Electrum updated their wallet so that it would check a different POW algorithm than sha256 after a certain block height. It's clear to me that after that block height it would no longer be a wallet for Bitcoin. One could argue that it's no longer a wallet for Bitcoin as soon as the alternative code is released. It might agree with Bitcoin for a while, but the fact that the consensus code is different means it isn't the same coin -- it will just appear to be for a while.

Bitcoin XT is in the process of changing the consensus code. I understand that the people who support this change will insist on calling it "Bitcoin." But if both chains survive, it seems like the one following the older consensus algorithm has more of a claim to the older name.

I know that the official position of those in favor of bigger blocks is: the old chain will not survive. I'm not sure if this is wishful thinking or a strategy to keep people who support Bitcoin (as it is defined today) from trying to see it through this crisis.
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June 20, 2015, 05:51:50 PM
#91
Bitcoin XT is an alt the same way Electrum and MultiBit are alts.
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June 20, 2015, 05:48:35 PM
#90
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, Litecoin will include support for 20mb blocks

Happy?

Why are you bringing Litecoin into this?

What does DOGE, Litecoin and Bitcoin XT have in common?  

Nothing, that's why I don't get what you're trying to say.

Ding Ding Ding! They are all Alts.

 Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
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June 20, 2015, 05:45:41 PM
#89
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, Litecoin will include support for 20mb blocks

Happy?

Why are you bringing Litecoin into this?

What does DOGE, Litecoin and Bitcoin XT have in common? 

Nothing, that's why I don't get what you're trying to say.
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June 20, 2015, 05:44:54 PM
#88
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

Actually, it was for a time: that's how I found it.

Mpreps strikes again?

Why is this altcoin conversation in "Bitcoin Discussion"?
legendary
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June 20, 2015, 05:32:57 PM
#87
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

Actually, it was for a time: that's how I found it.
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June 20, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
#86
Ding Ding Ding! They are all Alts.
legendary
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June 20, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
#85
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, Litecoin will include support for 20mb blocks

Happy?

Why are you bringing Litecoin into this?

What does DOGE, Litecoin and Bitcoin XT have in common? 
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June 20, 2015, 04:57:46 PM
#84
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, Litecoin will include support for 20mb blocks

Happy?

Why are you bringing Litecoin into this?
legendary
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June 20, 2015, 04:46:36 PM
#83
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?  Huh

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, Litecoin will include support for 20mb blocks

Happy? Tongue
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June 20, 2015, 04:45:06 PM
#82
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks

It was in the Alternative CLIENTS section.

Also, why are you bringing doge into this?  Huh
legendary
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June 20, 2015, 04:22:04 PM
#81
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?

mmmm pretty sure I saw it in the altcoin section for a few day and then it moved back here.

I believe it belongs in the altcoin section.

Mike Hearn: In about 1-2 weeks, DOGE will include support for 20mb blocks
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June 20, 2015, 04:06:31 PM
#80
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?


It was never in the altcoin section. What are you taking about?
legendary
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June 20, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
#79
This thread went from Bitcoin Discussion -> Altcoin Discussion and back to BTC Discussion... why is this not in the Alt part of these forums?
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