Questionable Merit History From: deadsea33

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

"JollyGood" I don't know why I got negative. I have already said that I do not have an alt account.

You received a negative tag from me because your _Hiloveua_ was the prime beneficiary of the fake word game that was created by your deadsea33 account to award merits to your farmed accounts (including the _Hiloveua_ account).

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

Can you tell if my account is connected to any other account?

I can tell, that is why I gave it negative trust.

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

My mistake was I was in deadsea33's word game. As far as I know there is nothing wrong with participating in such games.

No, the mistake your deadsea33 account made was to rig the game in order to ensure in the majority of cases nobody else was in a position to post the answers before any of his farmed accounts could. The sheer number of merits involved and the dates/times/threads they were awarded speak volumes:

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12th September 2023 must have some special meaning from deadsea33 to your _Hiloveua_ account because in the space of under 7 minutes you received 28 merits on 22 different occasions. That sort of prolific merit distribution in under 7 minutes has probably never ever happened in the history of this forum since the merit system was introduced.

Having said that, there are some suspicious activities by other members in that thread (and elsewhere) but for reasons I will not explain, I decided to not tag others (for now at least) beyond the following accounts: _Hiloveua_ , Rbolisna and Ripon9909.

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

Moreover, deadsea33 is definitely committing a crime but why should the participant be punished for that.

Because the evidence available points to merit abuse.

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

Can you tell how these accounts are alt accounts? I always respect DT members but this kind of act is really not acceptable. "JollyGood" will answer these questions.

I have answered these questions.

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

Moreover, deadsea33 is definitely committing a crime but why should the participant be punished for that.
Can you tell how these accounts are alt accounts? I always respect DT members but this kind of act is really not acceptable.

The fact that deadsea33 was a hacked account even makes this story of merit abuse and account farming interesting and believable. I mean, what other better motive could an account stealer/buyer like deadsea33 have other than create a merit awarding game where he can stealthily try to farm his little accounts that can later join signature campaigns?
The merit distribution patterns also check out, this can not be a coincidence.

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

"JollyGood" I don't know why I got negative.

And I don't know how you got all of those merits, but I could wager a pretty good guess. Since you obviously did not deserve them (no matter what you're claiming about participating in that moron's "game"), you're getting another red trust from me. Enjoy. Shitposters like yourself are supposed to be suppressed by the merit system, and when that fails the only tool left to combat parasites like yourself is the trust system. I wish it weren't so, but it is.

I don't usually tag merit abusers, but since you called attention to such an egregious case of merit-giving gone wrong by bumping this thread, I'm more than happy to add to JollyGood's paint job.

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it's so obvious why you got the negative tag from JollyGood mate.

Quote from: deadsea33 on September 12, 2023, 05:23:27 AM

@_Hiloveua_

Total 28 correct answers from round 14 to 24. 28 merits sent.

@ deadsea hasn't posted since after he gave you this merit and since then you have been active and also joined a signature campaign.

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on October 20, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

"JollyGood" I don't know why I got negative.
Moreover, deadsea33 is definitely committing a crime but why should the participant be punished for that.

this shows that you were both in on this. I wonder how come no one noticed that you actually received the remaining merits from @ deadsea33 which he had promised you( that's if you aren't one of his alt). And he did rank you up to a full member. I think that was the whole point about that thread it's so obvious that any one could see this. I also remembered seeing @ deadsea wearing a signature and now he removed it and currently isn't wearing any. that maybe because he already ranked the _Hiloveua_ account to full member so he could use that instead.

_Hiloveua_

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"JollyGood" I don't know why I got negative. I have already said that I do not have an alt account. Can you tell if my account is connected to any other account? My mistake was I was in deadsea33's word game. As far as I know there is nothing wrong with participating in such games.

Moreover, deadsea33 is definitely committing a crime but why should the participant be punished for that.
Can you tell how these accounts are alt accounts? I always respect DT members but this kind of act is really not acceptable. "JollyGood" will answer these questions.

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hugeblack already stated that he feels the _Hiloveua_ was using an online translator in the local language board and is not a native speaker. If true that too could open a different can of worms when analysing the accounts in questions.

As you mentioned it, I also noticed the _Hiloveua_ account asking for merits therefore the intent the account owner/operator has for the account is clear. Eventually he will have to give up on the account just as the deadsea33 account because there are too many people watching and at least one tag (from me) will be given very soon.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 27, 2023, 12:49:54 PM

If he has accumulated a few merits from a giveaway that he finds easy, he will need more merit to participate in the subscription company. As you can see, he has already applied for a donation of merit in the appropriate thread. But what's next?
To participate in subscription companies, he needs at least some knowledge. Posts in the WO thread are not counted by managers. And in the Arabic local section, his posts often consist of a retelling of events with a link provided.
I think the user himself should now understand that a lot of eyes are directed at him, and there would be less fuss if he did not "develop" his alternative account so noticeably. But he made a choice, thinking that he was the smartest of all.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 27, 2023, 11:49:46 AM

I have not had the appropriate time over the past few days to give this matter more time but I will definitely find time. I have already decided on several accounts which will be tagged. As mentioned earlier, I will tag all of the accounts at the same time that I feel have participated in merit abuse.

If he has accumulated a few merits from a giveaway that he finds easy, he will need more merit to participate in the subscription company. As you can see, he has already applied for a donation of merit in the appropriate thread. But what's next?
To participate in subscription companies, he needs at least some knowledge. Posts in the WO thread are not counted by managers. And in the Arabic local section, his posts often consist of a retelling of events with a link provided.
I think the user himself should now understand that a lot of eyes are directed at him, and there would be less fuss if he did not "develop" his alternative account so noticeably. But he made a choice, thinking that he was the smartest of all.

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Quote from: Cantsay on July 26, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 26, 2023, 03:18:50 AM

No, I didn't know that GazetaBitcoin was giving merit to the quiz, I was participating there to know the history of Bitcoin and Bitcointalk.

Mind you, this is a review of deadsea33's game, not a review of the quiz conducted by icopress.

For what we know you might be saying the truth but your post history is saying a different thing entirely.

You started that you knew nothing about gazeta giving out merit to those that participates in the quiz but yet your next post after you participated in the quiz was made in Wall Observation and from what others have experienced 99% of newbies that make post there are majorly fishing for merit. So you claiming you knew nothing about participants receiving merits and yet posting like a merit fisher is not that convincing.
And beside you have made the highest number of post in WO.

I am glad the puppeteer controlling the deadsea33 account has not logged in again after he brought unwanted attention to himself but thanks to that error he has now put the light on several other accounts clearly linked to his account-farming business.

Looking at the quality of posts being presented by the puppeteer controlling the _Hiloveua_ account clearly shows the intention was only merit hunting (as it was already mentioned the the current neutral feedback).

I have not had the appropriate time over the past few days to give this matter more time but I will definitely find time. I have already decided on several accounts which will be tagged. As mentioned earlier, I will tag all of the accounts at the same time that I feel have participated in merit abuse.

Liliana1304

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I didn't get a notification concerning this but while browsing the forum, I found this thread and discovered that I was mentioned as well in list of names that benefitted from the Deadsea33 account in his Quiz thread. I only participated in the game and not an alt.

I joined the quiz in the 16th round, and did my best to answer to the best of the little knowledge I had gotten then. While it was quite odd that a member would have such number of merits, I didn't bother to be concerned if it was an account farmer because I was more interested in the game, the information I got as a result of the answers the other participants were providing and the free merits.

Just like @Hatchy, I became uninterested when @deadsea33 kept failing to keep up to time. I have no prior dealings with the user not until I participated in the quiz.

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 26, 2023, 03:18:50 AM

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 24, 2023, 01:09:33 AM

Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?

No, I didn't know that GazetaBitcoin was giving merit to the quiz, I was participating there to know the history of Bitcoin and Bitcointalk.

Mind you, this is a review of deadsea33's game, not a review of the quiz conducted by icopress.

For what we know you might be saying the truth but your post history is saying a different thing entirely.

You started that you knew nothing about gazeta giving out merit to those that participates in the quiz but yet your next post after you participated in the quiz was made in Wall Observation and from what others have experienced 99% of newbies that make post there are majorly fishing for merit. So you claiming you knew nothing about participants receiving merits and yet posting like a merit fisher is not that convincing.
And beside you have made the highest number of post in WO.

_Hiloveua_

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I am sorry for the late reply, I have been sick for two days. Due to which I could not be active in the forum.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 23, 2023, 05:30:26 AM

You have not contributed in any capacity within the forum therefore can you explain specifically why you feel you should not receive a neutral or negative tag for merit abuse?

I did not keep contribute to the forum in any capacity, You can tag as if you want. What does everyone contribute to this forum? I will do my best for the forum as much as I can To do something good. It might be an abuse of merit, it was wrong of me to participate in his (deadsea33) game.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 24, 2023, 01:09:33 AM

Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?

No, I didn't know that GazetaBitcoin was giving merit to the quiz, I was participating there to know the history of Bitcoin and Bitcointalk.

Mind you, this is a review of deadsea33's game, not a review of the quiz conducted by icopress.

Quote from: hugeblack on July 25, 2023, 08:14:18 AM

This is the link I meant, it's amazing that you knew about a game long before you joined. BTW @deadsea33 did not include a link.

Yes, it's true that deadsea33 didn't add the cygan 1.0 game link to his game. But you may have forgotten, cygan added this link to his 2.0 game.

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how do you always answer a minute after posting the question and the answers are correct.

The reason for answering in less time is that relatively fewest letter words are answered. And this is the only way not to go wrong.

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do you know the Arabic language, is this your only account?

Yes, This is my only account that and I know Arabic language.

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do you know @nlovric/petulino/Cheema02/Jateng?

Yes, I know about these, these are Bitcointalk forum usernames. Among them, nlovric has been banned, the other 3 are active.

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Regardless of the last active times, what has to be noted is that the Rbolisna and Ripon9909 accounts have not participated in the thread.

Also, as of yet the _Hiloveua_ account has not answered the questions here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62594722

Now that you have asked your own questions let us see what the reply would be when eventually _Hiloveua_ posts it.

Quote from: hugeblack on July 25, 2023, 08:14:18 AM

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 23, 2023, 12:56:55 AM

Actually there is no online dictionary for it. but When (deadsea33) started this word game he conducted 1st 12 rounds about cryptocurrency, ( Pmalek ) and ( cygan 1.0 ) games were helpful for me, also I had good understanding about cryptocurrency.

This is the link I meant, it's amazing that you knew about a game long before you joined. BTW @deadsea33 did not include a link.
If you want to deny the link between you and this account. It is better to answer questions like, how do you always answer a minute after posting the question and the answers are correct, do you know the Arabic language, is this your only account? And do you know @nlovric/petulino/Cheema02/Jateng?

hugeblack

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Quote from: Hatchy on July 22, 2023, 07:37:58 AM

Today, while checking my notifications, I noticed that I have been mentioned in the investigation of @deadsea33. It is true that I earned a lot of merits from his game, which might be considered merit abuse.

I tend to believe your story as you have a different post style than @deadsea33, I also don't think deadsea33 speaks Nigerian and you have several posts there, but you've been given a lot of info that an average user who join to game know so there's a slight chance you've bought these merits or at least know that user.
in general :

- Avoid participating for post-to-merit topics.
- Useless wall posts, challenges and anything suspicious.
- Keep creating high quality posts just as the purpose of this forum is.

I will put you on my watch list and after about two months I will remove you so try to be better, welcome as a good member of the forum and we regret these doubts.

Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 23, 2023, 12:56:55 AM

Actually there is no online dictionary for it. but When (deadsea33) started this word game he conducted 1st 12 rounds about cryptocurrency, ( Pmalek ) and ( cygan 1.0 ) games were helpful for me, also I had good understanding about cryptocurrency.

This is the link I meant, it's amazing that you knew about a game long before you joined. BTW @deadsea33 did not include a link.
If you want to deny the link between you and this account. It is better to answer questions like, how do you always answer a minute after posting the question and the answers are correct, do you know the Arabic language, is this your only account? And do you know @nlovric/petulino/Cheema02/Jateng?

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 24, 2023, 01:25:05 AM

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But what is my mistake if I participate in the quiz?

And here the merit history of deadsea33 is being investigated.

If I have to facepalmed myself reading your ignorance, I might have to take myself to the ER. Allow me to help you to break down the situation here slowly: the question being asked here is not if anyone made mistake by participating in the quiz, it's if you're [and other accounts] an alt of deadsea33. Many members are also participants of that thread, but a lot of them [currently] are not as suspicios as you in term of accuracy, timing in giving your answers, and other factors.

As for the matter being investigated here, it is not only deadsea33's merit history, but also the possible alt-account of his, and this is where you come to the spotlight.

In short, if you really find it hard to understand, there is an ongoing investigation that deadsea33's account changed hand, and that he published his quiz thread of which you participated for the sole purpose of abusing merit by rewarding it to his other accounts, of which, so many signs point out to your account as one of it.

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Please note, I am on the verge of tagging your _Hiloveua_ account (and several others) on the basis of being farmed engaging in merit abuse operated by the same puppeteer controlling the deadsea33 account. Having said that I ask you to be clear in your defence.

_Hiloveua_ without conducting in incoherent ramblings and by giving straight answers only, can you address the following questions:

Quote from: JollyGood on July 23, 2023, 05:30:26 AM

You have not contributed in any capacity within the forum therefore can you explain specifically why you feel you should not receive a neutral or negative tag for merit abuse?

Quote from: Rikafip on July 24, 2023, 12:57:11 AM

By the way, are you a native Arabic speaker?

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 24, 2023, 01:09:33 AM

Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 24, 2023, 01:09:33 AM

Are you serious? Your first post and already participated in the quiz. Who do you want to fool? I do not want to repeat myself, but for those who are stupid, once again, in the WO branch, newbies spam in the hope of getting merit.
Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?
I don't care what you're going to do here, but yes, after gaining some merit the easy way, now you'll have to show your level of knowledge for real. You answered questions that beginners are unlikely to answer the first time.
You need to understand that your appearance in the "Reputation" branch indicates that you will be under attention since your behavior is too suspicious.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand you, you are talking about this quiz. Yes, I was participating in it. GazetaBitcoin gave me merit after answering.

Thank you for teaching something new.

But what is my mistake if I participate in the quiz?

And here the merit history of deadsea33 is being investigated.

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 24, 2023, 12:42:23 AM

Thank you for commenting, don't mind, who you believe or not is your personal matter. You said I am already participating in the quiz, this is wrong, I have not joined the new quiz, I am posting on merit count down, this is a help post. Yes, it's true that I haven't posted except on WO threads and local boards, and I've been looking for merit since I created my account. So I can't learn anything. Of course it can be learned. And who will post where is his personal matter. And I did not come to this forum for any alternative account.

Are you serious? Your first post and already participated in the quiz. Who do you want to fool? I do not want to repeat myself, but for those who are stupid, once again, in the WO branch, newbies spam in the hope of getting merit.
Are you saying that you accidentally found out that GazetaBitcoin is giving away merit in the quiz? Likewise, as a beginner and as a visionary, did you immediately find a suitable topic?
I don't care what you're going to do here, but yes, after gaining some merit the easy way, now you'll have to show your level of knowledge for real. You answered questions that beginners are unlikely to answer the first time.
You need to understand that your appearance in the "Reputation" branch indicates that you will be under attention since your behavior is too suspicious.

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Quote from: _Hiloveua_ on July 24, 2023, 12:42:23 AM

I still don't know how a person can cheat others by using online translators. I'm sorry I have no idea about this.

Arabic local board historically has a very high (often highest among all local boards) merit/post ratio so I wouldn't be surprised if someone who doesn't speak Arabic at all uses Google translate in order to farm merit.

By the way, are you a native Arabic speaker?

_Hiloveua_

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 23, 2023, 05:55:49 AM

I will never believe in my life that you are a beginner. Don't take everyone here for fools.You posted the first post on the forum and had already participated in the quiz. What is the reason for participation? Merit search. Further regular spam in the WO thread, What is Your reason for being there? The same merit. Now that participation in the deadsea33 "quiz" begins, what do we see? Again, the search for merit
You have not created a single post, all the time, except for posts in the Arabic local section.
Is it possible for a beginner to guess the nicknames of people if he has been registered for only a few months? You know many, but in order to definitely know everyone, as you often guessed, several months on the forum is not enough.
As a result, you came to the forum thinking of getting an easy alternative account.

Thank you for commenting, don't mind, who you believe or not is your personal matter. You said I am already participating in the quiz, this is wrong, I have not joined the new quiz, I am posting on merit count down, this is a help post. Yes, it's true that I haven't posted except on WO threads and local boards, and I've been looking for merit since I created my account. So I can't learn anything. Of course it can be learned. And who will post where is his personal matter. And I did not come to this forum for any alternative account.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 23, 2023, 02:25:15 PM

He skipped past your post ignoring it completely. The fact he made no effort at all to address any point you raised shows the account is probably sure tags will be forthcoming and is trying to stop themselves from making more errors.

I am sorry that I gave his reply very late, but I did not avoid him. You may have misunderstood. I last replied to you. His reply was after you.

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It is worth noting hugeblack has mentioned his opinions clearly as far as the _Hiloveua_ account is concerned. If this member is using online translators to deceive others in to believing they are multi-lingual (if not bi-lingual) then what is their aim for the charade?

I still don't know how a person can cheat others by using online translators. I'm sorry I have no idea about this.

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