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June 04, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
#50
Don't ever put Quickseller back on default trust again if you want this forum to have any credibility whatsoever. Its 99% gone by this point. Don't let QS take the remaining 1%.

I don't much about the politics here, I think Quickseller should be back on that  defaulted trust again everybody talk about. Now all the scammers light up all green again.  I saw a trust-farmer-scammer earlier which Quickseller has marked red, it was green today. And the little boy pretend that all the accusations against him is not true, if you just spend 2 minutes on the evidense Quickseller has posted then will you know the accusation is true.... Some say he is too quick to pull the trigger... I think it is best to pull the trigger first and ask later...... I like vod since he was always resonable...... If quickseller also gets resonable then is he a worthy guy to take vod's position.
In the "real world" someone that can make decisions quickly, and think on his feet is valued and these are qualities that are generally considered good.

If you don't mind, can you give a few examples of when I was not reasonable with my ratings? There have been plenty of times when I removed my ratings after having a discussion with the person I gave a negative to, or after receiving additional evidence, etc.. Few of these ratings have a 'quickseller' thread about them because it never came to that, and also many scammers that receive a negative from me go straight to creating a thread trying to inflame me without ever sending a single PM
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www.V.systems
June 03, 2015, 03:47:05 PM
#49
well quickie boy... wait you're a GIRL ??

legendary
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June 03, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
#48
Don't ever put Quickseller back on default trust again if you want this forum to have any credibility whatsoever. Its 99% gone by this point. Don't let QS take the remaining 1%.

I don't much about the politics here, I think Quickseller should be back on that  defaulted trust again everybody talk about. Now all the scammers light up all green again.  I saw a trust-farmer-scammer earlier which Quickseller has marked red, it was green today. And the little boy pretend that all the accusations against him is not true, if you just spend 2 minutes on the evidense Quickseller has posted then will you know the accusation is true.... Some say he is too quick to pull the trigger... I think it is best to pull the trigger first and ask later...... I like vod since he was always resonable...... If quickseller also gets resonable then is he a worthy guy to take vod's position.

If there was no valid reason for him being removed from the DF trust, then I guess he would have stayed but now it's not the case. The admin has removed him for a valid reason (which I feel is right).

This forum needs a person to track SCAMS only. I bolded the word as one needs to only track scams and not leave a warning on accounts just because a member has been critical of your ratings.

This members gets too personal if one disagrees with him and this statement proves it:

Well it sounds like you were more likely to be the person behind question2.

It probably also means that TC was the one who made that qcexpose account (or something similar to that), not that it matters who it was. That was previously my theory however this somewhat strengthens that hypothesis.


He doubts anyone to be anyone's alt. Why does he jump to conclusions so fast? TC was the one who added him in the DF trust list and he shouldn't forget that.


It's only a fantasy for members here to be in the DF trust list but they forget that they are here to track scammers instead of accusing every member as a scammer. There's a vast difference and not 100% of the members over here are here to scam others. I believe that there are sensible people as well who perform trades genuinely. If this member finds a scammer, he/she can report the same to Badbear or post in the scam accusation thread. It makes no difference if he/she is in the DF trust list. We all should contribute equally and make others alert of any scammer.

It's the lack of moderation which leads to scams and instead of asking for people to be in the DF trust list, I would like a moderator to be appointed and outlist scammers. Till then we have TC, Badbear and Theymos to save the community from scammers and I wouldn't blindly trust the feedback of a person and in doubt, escrow is an option for me.

I can vouch that erikalui is a legitimate account. I have known this individual for a number of years as we were both members of EMS forum and did trades back then.

Even though I am no longer with that forum, I will also state that EMS reputation system is far superior to BCT's system as their's was a fair process(until you challenge the admins Grin). Bitcointalk seems to have a "Pre-crime" unit where people get blackballed before they commit an offensive deed. We as members are being subjected to unjust scrutiny and handed negative trust like candy if we "appear" suspicious to any "power-player" with an unknown agenda. In my opinion, this is an abusive reputation system which has already become exploited with corruption.

Thanks for the vouch dear  Smiley

EMS is 100 times better in terms of the trust feedback and in my case when a scammer left me a revenge feedback, the admin removed it. The trust system and scams are moderated and hence very less people get scammed. Here the case is the opposite where all members are considered scammers. It seems one doesn't have any work in life except to scam  Cheesy

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Captain
June 03, 2015, 02:55:43 PM
#47
Don't ever put Quickseller back on default trust again if you want this forum to have any credibility whatsoever. Its 99% gone by this point. Don't let QS take the remaining 1%.

I don't much about the politics here, I think Quickseller should be back on that  defaulted trust again everybody talk about. Now all the scammers light up all green again.  I saw a trust-farmer-scammer earlier which Quickseller has marked red, it was green today. And the little boy pretend that all the accusations against him is not true, if you just spend 2 minutes on the evidense Quickseller has posted then will you know the accusation is true.... Some say he is too quick to pull the trigger... I think it is best to pull the trigger first and ask later...... I like vod since he was always resonable...... If quickseller also gets resonable then is he a worthy guy to take vod's position.
legendary
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June 03, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
#46
Quickseller is just another shady thief with way too much time on his hands and way too little respect for his own life. As the forum's most notorious account seller, he tries to shroud his reputation-damaging tomfoolery by pretending he is also a scam artist exposer. There's no quicker way to take the heat off yourself than by putting it on somebody else.

As he sells accounts for a living he single-handedly enables more scammers in this forum than anybody else, and if he doesn't like the words you have to say about him he will have a moderator delete your post.

Don't ever put Quickseller back on default trust again if you want this forum to have any credibility whatsoever. Its 99% gone by this point. Don't let QS take the remaining 1%.
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June 03, 2015, 02:18:50 PM
#45
I can vouch that erikalui is a legitimate account. I have known this individual for a number of years as we were both members of EMS forum and did trades back then.

Even though I am no longer with that forum, I will also state that EMS reputation system is far superior to BCT's system as their's was a fair process(until you challenge the admins Grin). Bitcointalk seems to have a "Pre-crime" unit where people get blackballed before they commit an offensive deed. We as members are being subjected to unjust scrutiny and handed negative trust like candy if we "appear" suspicious to any "power-player" with an unknown agenda. In my opinion, this is an abusive reputation system which has already become exploited with corruption.
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May 20, 2015, 05:15:02 AM
#44
Can we see evidence to support those scam claims?

That would be huge if it exists.

Oh come on QS. I still don't care about your trust rating but I'm happy that an arrogant person like you is affected by the default trust position. I did not know that you were obsessed by this position and you got removed because of your own bad deeds of cursing and criticizing me. I haven't done anything wrong on this forum nor will I ever do. People who want to trade with me will still do irrespective of my trust rating. I won't turn into a bad person just because of your arrogance.


You are trying to quote my contradicting statements? LOL! It shows me what kind of a person you are in real life.


1.The fact that you supported the cheat who wanted to scam me and my mother of $1000 and then you wanted to get me sued proves that it's not me who is wrong, it's you.

2. You went on to support a ponzi signature campaign as you were serving as an escrow. You did not even leave a negative on his account because you dint consider it important. Excellent as you served as an escrow right?

3. You created so many accounts and kept on posting through all of those accounts just to earn money to sell them. Selling accounts is unethical and immoral which you showed that you are.

4. You abuse people and hate those who criticize you. The fact that it is you who is screaming here on my thread that I kept criticizing you and wanted you out of the DF proves that you think so small of me when I haven't done anything wrong to you.

5. You make so many assumptions that anyone can be a scammer here which proves that your judgement cannot be trusted.



The issues you had with me:

1. I don't support escrow (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

2. I make the buyer go first (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

3. I said as an example that if I get a better trade, I can back out (I agree but I never said that it was a confirmed trade. That you wanted to assume so that you could leave a feedback which you were dying to do for so long. This got you out of the DF and you keep blaming me for that.)

4. You claim that this is a purchased account.

Anything else that's wrong with me?

1. I used MZ as an escrow for a deal.

2. I went first with MZ and even with another member of this forum who owns get-paid website.

3. I never backed out of any deal till date.

4. Badbear knows the truth and even MZ has proven that the BTC address is the same.


You can note the clear difference between me and you. All your claims have been proven false.



Now you are trying to message Badbear and talk bad about me to get your position back? Go ahead and show me your real side. That's what you are. Not a scam buster but just a show off.
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 05:07:31 AM
#43
Oh come on QS. I still don't care about your trust rating but I'm happy that an arrogant person like you is affected by the default trust position. I did not know that you were obsessed by this position and you got removed because of your own bad deeds of cursing and criticizing me. I haven't done anything wrong on this forum nor will I ever do. People who want to trade with me will still do irrespective of my trust rating. I won't turn into a bad person just because of your arrogance.


You are trying to quote my contradicting statements? LOL! It shows me what kind of a person you are in real life.


1.The fact that you supported the cheat who wanted to scam me and my mother of $1000 and then you wanted to get me sued proves that it's not me who is wrong, it's you.

2. You went on to support a ponzi signature campaign as you were serving as an escrow. You did not even leave a negative on his account because you dint consider it important. Excellent as you served as an escrow right?

3. You created so many accounts and kept on posting through all of those accounts just to earn money to sell them. Selling accounts is unethical and immoral which you showed that you are.

4. You abuse people and hate those who criticize you. The fact that it is you who is screaming here on my thread that I kept criticizing you and wanted you out of the DF proves that you think so small of me when I haven't done anything wrong to you.

5. You make so many assumptions that anyone can be a scammer here which proves that your judgement cannot be trusted.



The issues you had with me:

1. I don't support escrow (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

2. I make the buyer go first (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

3. I said as an example that if I get a better trade, I can back out (I agree but I never said that it was a confirmed trade. That you wanted to assume so that you could leave a feedback which you were dying to do for so long. This got you out of the DF and you keep blaming me for that.)

4. You claim that this is a purchased account.

Anything else that's wrong with me?

1. I used MZ as an escrow for a deal.

2. I went first with MZ and even with another member of this forum who owns get-paid website.

3. I never backed out of any deal till date.

4. Badbear knows the truth and even MZ has proven that the BTC address is the same.


You can note the clear difference between me and you. All your claims have been proven false.



Now you are trying to message Badbear and talk bad about me to get your position back? Go ahead and show me your real side. That's what you are. Not a scam buster but just a show off.
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May 20, 2015, 03:17:10 AM
#42
OMG has quickseller actually been removed from default trust? 

The masses of scammers and would be, could be's, and those just under speculation must be celebrating in the streets. 

I can't say I disagree with the move but it is an interesting turn of events.
The scammers are celebrating, just take a look at this as well as the OP of that thread's signature.

I think it is pretty clear that the OP had an agenda of wanting to get me removed from the default trust network. I looked through the last 7 pages of meta, and found 12 posts made by the OP that were critical of me (while ignoring posts in this thread) in various QS threads. I did find one post that spoke positively of me, however that was speaking positively of my grammar. To further test my hypothesis, I checked all other trust dispute related threads in the last 7 pages of meta and found a total of two posts made by the OP, neither of which were critical of the controversial trust ratings (despite what I think would be reasonably concluded that many/most trust ratings in other trust dispute threads are more controversial then the QS threads).

Additionally, this thread was opened on May 19, 2015, 09:57:50 AM, at which point I had received 0 PM's regarding my trust rating I had left the OP. At May 19, 2015, 10:09:52 AM, I received the first of which would become three PM's regarding the rating (it should also be noted that this thread was posted at 6:00 AM local time, and according to my posting stats, was the single hour where I made, by far the fewest posts, which would result in the greatest likelihood that I would not respond to this thread for a long time), and I saw this thread prior to having a chance to respond to the PM's and as a result I did not.

Furthermore, the OP has made several contradicting statements regarding her opinion regarding the trust rating I left her, even going as far as saying that she does not care about my rating:
I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
-snip-
I don't care about the feedback you left me
-snip-
Glad that Badbear doesn't trust you anymore



Actually I support quickseller on default trust. He's good to busting all scammer with well explanation reason.
Nah...I still can add quickseller into my trust list anyway
I would recommend adding me to your trust list. I went through my sent trust with an account that uses DefaultTrust in it's trust list and found 24 accounts that I left negative trust for that are showing as having neutral trust. This list does not include newbie accounts that were likely abandoned that had asked for a loan with no collateral, it is actual scammers (and their alts).I am working on gathering evidence about these accounts, and am trying to figure out what to do with them (opening 24 scam accusations would probably a) be considered spam, and b) would take up too much of my time).

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Actually I support quickseller on default trust.
I sent a PM to BadBear regarding his trust list, however I have yet to hear back from him. I would like to say that we have worked together on various issues enough that he would at least respond, however I haven't received any kind of communication from him regarding my sent ratings, so it is hard to say if he will respond or not.

From the looks of it, it looks like Meta is going to be a little bit quieter in the near future, while Scam Accusations will be much more active Roll Eyes
legendary
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May 20, 2015, 01:46:25 AM
#41
OMG has quickseller actually been removed from default trust? 

The masses of scammers and would be, could be's, and those just under speculation must be celebrating in the streets. 

I can't say I disagree with the move but it is an interesting turn of events.

Actually I support quickseller on default trust. He's good to busting all scammer with well explanation reason.
Nah...I still can add quickseller into my trust list anyway



P.S. Looks like my rating is red. Grin

This is shocked  Shocked
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
May 20, 2015, 01:40:35 AM
#40
OMG has quickseller actually been removed from default trust? 

The masses of scammers and would be, could be's, and those just under speculation must be celebrating in the streets. 

I can't say I disagree with the move but it is an interesting turn of events.

I agree but QS may need to be slow when leaving feedback. He is a good scambuster and I think he still can by posting evidences in Scam Accusations and someone else may leave negative feedback.

P.S. Looks like my rating is red. Grin
tss
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May 20, 2015, 01:34:52 AM
#39
OMG has quickseller actually been removed from default trust? 

The masses of scammers and would be, could be's, and those just under speculation must be celebrating in the streets. 

I can't say I disagree with the move but it is an interesting turn of events.
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May 19, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
#38
...I don't hide using my alt accounts unlike you with your QS, AS accounts and you don't bother to fight with your real name. My account name has my real name as I have nothing to hide.

Why would anyone want to use the services of someone that is anonymous. What is the great scam buster QS hiding? Clearly the sketchy person is the one hiding behind aliases.
legendary
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May 19, 2015, 02:37:14 PM
#37
Accounts are not mainly sold to scam others, however when combined with your sketchy behavior, I think a warning is appropriate if your account is in fact purchased.

I am not going to remove my rating. You got what you clearly wanted and got me removed from BadBear's list. My comments are factually accurate and give you a lot more leeway then is appropriate IMO. I am not going to remove my rating. You can petition theymos to get it removed if you want however I think it would be extremely unlikely considering that it is not spam.

You are welcome to try to figure out who is appropriate to trust with your money however that doesn't mean that you establish sketchy trading practices in the meantime.

I did not say in my comment that you backed out of a deal, I said that you openly admitted that you would back out of a deal if you could find another one on better terms. The context of the conversation was that of when the terms of a trade were confirmed and agreed to by all parties.

Glad that Badbear doesn't trust you anymore and this behavior will only bring you down in life QS. You have stooped so low in my eyes.

And regarding my account being purchased. I am a criminal lawyer's child and I don't hide using my alt accounts unlike you with your QS, AS accounts and you don't bother to fight with your real name. My account name has my real name as I have nothing to hide. I'm definitely more educated than you as I don't have any personal grudges against you and as you say that I wanted you out of the trust list. I don't care about you as a member QS. I don't know why are you giving yourself so much importance. I wouldn't even care about the PM of my country and get him out of the seat even though he is wasting my country's money. Why would I care about getting you out of a virtual trust list? Is this forum even so important in my life? May be it's important for you as you have the habit of creating multiple accounts and posting through each of them in order to earn some bitcoins. I still have my brain intact to use only my main account to post and not like you to create alt accounts and earn through them.

Don't remove your feedback as that gives you peace. I'm not going to lock this thread and will keep it open to show others what kind of a person you are.
legendary
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May 19, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
#36
Accounts are not mainly sold to scam others, however when combined with your sketchy behavior, I think a warning is appropriate if your account is in fact purchased.

I am not going to remove my rating. You got what you clearly wanted and got me removed from BadBear's list. My comments are factually accurate and give you a lot more leeway then is appropriate IMO.

You are welcome to try to figure out who is appropriate to trust with your money however that doesn't mean that you establish sketchy trading practices in the meantime.

I did not say in my comment that you backed out of a deal, I said that you openly admitted that you would back out of a deal if you could find another one on better terms. The context of the conversation was that of when the terms of a trade were confirmed and agreed to by all parties.
I dont say that Quickseller is a trust abuser .. He is a nice guy always help users and keeps the forum clean and neat. but sometimes as you know we are humans we can do mistake, quickseller gave me negative feedback on my Ume account .. without knowing the truth  ignoring messages . but i accepted . and never returned to that account he gave me negative feedback saying alt of tacoman lol i dont know who is him but still i said theres no way .. i explained him twice thrice times but he dont reply .. i only want one proof that tacoman is an alt of ume and want a proof if i ever scammed anybody ?. Though He is a nice guy just a little mistake in a buxy day.


REply please ?
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May 19, 2015, 02:16:30 PM
#35
Accounts are not mainly sold to scam others, however when combined with your sketchy behavior, I think a warning is appropriate if your account is in fact purchased.

I am not going to remove my rating. You got what you clearly wanted and got me removed from BadBear's list. My comments are factually accurate and give you a lot more leeway then is appropriate IMO. I am not going to remove my rating. You can petition theymos to get it removed if you want however I think it would be extremely unlikely considering that it is not spam.

You are welcome to try to figure out who is appropriate to trust with your money however that doesn't mean that you establish sketchy trading practices in the meantime.

I did not say in my comment that you backed out of a deal, I said that you openly admitted that you would back out of a deal if you could find another one on better terms. The context of the conversation was that of when the terms of a trade were confirmed and agreed to by all parties.
legendary
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May 19, 2015, 01:41:20 PM
#34
You don't have a negative rating. Nor have you ever had one from me. You saying that I have a negative against you is libel.

Your post history is consistent of a farmed account and farmed accounts are almost always either sold it for sale. My logic was valid.

If you don't care about feedback I left you then you would not care above the above statement. Roll Eyes

You do act very sketchy as you have often not accepted escrow while having a very limited trade history. Now why don't you tell me what user group is that consistent with?


I don't believe my interpretation of your statement was a misunderstanding however I am willing to compromise and note that you claim it to be a misunderstanding.

You have a dislike for me that's what I meant.

@bold: Now who can understand this better than QS who has been doing this for ages. Account selling/sales are just ridiculous and mainly bought to scam others. Doesn't your behavior seem fishy as you might have sold accounts with feedback as well?

@blue: Appearing fishy or sketchy is fine. I don't want to get scammed by members over here and mind you, I have been inactive for 1.5 years and when I came here, people started screaming escrow escrow and recommending me their personal escrows. That's why I wasn't sure to use escrow till I was sure with whom I'm dealing with. MZ seemed cool and considerate and hence I chose him. It takes me time to understand who is trusted and who is not as my money was earned and not gifted to me. I often take precautions before trading as I've been cheated by my own family members so who are members here? I don't even know you personally nor others here.

@green: I would just request you to remove the rating. If anytime in future I do seem fishy with an escrow or in my trades, don't hesitate to add it but now it just seems senseless as I've not even backed out of my deals not have tried to. Me stating an example and you giving me a feedback for the same is weird. My having a sketchy behavior has nothing to do with your feedback rating. At least give me a chance to survive without having your account name on my account without having any dealings/trades that are fishy.


If you check my trades, you'll always realize that my prices are exact or too high. $5 Amazon for the same price, 1:1 transactions. I simply don't accept deals that will make me bear a loss and hence backing out of deals because I'll earn a profit is silly. MZ also knows that when I sold my Flipkart voucher worth Rs. 500, I sold it for the same rate $7.9.


Be in the DefaultTrust list is an obsessions for everyone, if BadBear thought that remove quickseller was a right thing then probably he's right. However he can still continue leave trust, the unique thing is that his trust will not be trusted (from the point of view of the 'trust system) anymore.

I did not understand this before but now I can see the effect it has on members here.
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May 19, 2015, 01:36:35 PM
#33
Be in the DefaultTrust list is an obsessions for everyone, if BadBear thought that remove quickseller was a right thing then probably he's right. However he can still continue leave trust, the unique thing is that his trust will not be trusted (from the point of view of the 'trust system) anymore.
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May 19, 2015, 01:27:24 PM
#32
You don't have a negative rating. Nor have you ever had one from me. You saying that I have a negative against you is libel.

Your post history is consistent of a farmed account and farmed accounts are almost always either sold it for sale. My logic was valid.

If you don't care about feedback I left you then you would not care above the above statement. Roll Eyes

You do act very sketchy as you have often not accepted escrow while having a very limited trade history. Now why don't you tell me what user group is that consistent with?

I don't believe my interpretation of your statement was a misunderstanding however I am willing to compromise and note that you claim it to be a misunderstanding.
legendary
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May 19, 2015, 01:19:57 PM
#31
There is a huge difference between a negative and neutral rating. A negative rating affects your trust score directly while a neutral is just comments. To say that I left you a negative is an outright lie. Period.

If you claim to not care about the feedback that I left you then what was the point of opening up this thread? Roll Eyes



The clear reason was this "This account was also likely purchased on or around February 2015, so the registration date and time online should not be considered to be accurate for this account."

How much time does it take a person to understand English?

Now I will keep this thread open as you made other accusations too against me and did not remove your feedback. Now it affects me as you are blaming me for your removal. Called me a sketchy user, suspicious and went on with your baseless claims. I don't feel I deserve it. Simple.

What reason do you have to leave me a negative feedback? There are people here who do not find it reasonable. Why do I deserve the feedback when you had a misunderstanding about me? I never even said that I will backout from a deal after confirming the trade so your feedback does not make any sense.


And yeah, I did not lie. By mistake I wrote negative feedback which will keep affecting you now.

Just remove it and the matter is closed. I don't want your name in my account. It will keep haunting me.
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