If you claim to not care about the feedback that I left you then what was the point of opening up this thread?
Topic: Quickseller's feedback on my account - page 2. (Read 2445 times)
There is a huge difference between a negative and neutral rating. A negative rating affects your trust score directly while a neutral is just comments. To say that I left you a negative is an outright lie. Period.
If you claim to not care about the feedback that I left you then what was the point of opening up this thread?
If you claim to not care about the feedback that I left you then what was the point of opening up this thread?
No. That is not what is reasonable to say is what setting up escrow means. It would be ridiculous to think that a deal would be set in stone if someone were to simply help as escrow for a deal that may not even have a buyer yet - there wouldn't even be any deal to potentially be set in stone yet.
I do not have my own definition of getting sued.
No it does not. My feedback is fact based and does not reflect any personal opinions.
You do not need to have actually scammed to receive a negative. That however does not matter because I have never left you a negative trust rating, it was neutral the entire time. IMO the fact that you are making such a big deal out of a neutral rating is pretty clear evidence that your prior comments criticizing me was in fact baiting me to leave a negative in order to have a reason to complain to get me removed.
I am saying that the only two people who always show up in the QS threads are the same two people. That is my conclusion.
I am glad that you adhere to the Christian belief that everyone should be respected for their opinions regardless if they are the same or not.
When did I give you a negative? Do you have a screenshot of such negative? I can tell you right now, as mentioned above none of my ratings against you were ever negative. There is a glaring difference between a neutral and a negative and it would be very difficult to make the mistake between the two
I do not have my own definition of getting sued.
No it does not. My feedback is fact based and does not reflect any personal opinions.
You do not need to have actually scammed to receive a negative. That however does not matter because I have never left you a negative trust rating, it was neutral the entire time. IMO the fact that you are making such a big deal out of a neutral rating is pretty clear evidence that your prior comments criticizing me was in fact baiting me to leave a negative in order to have a reason to complain to get me removed.
I am saying that the only two people who always show up in the QS threads are the same two people. That is my conclusion.
I am glad that you adhere to the Christian belief that everyone should be respected for their opinions regardless if they are the same or not.
When did I give you a negative? Do you have a screenshot of such negative? I can tell you right now, as mentioned above none of my ratings against you were ever negative. There is a glaring difference between a neutral and a negative and it would be very difficult to make the mistake between the two
Why are you quoting my religion? Please keep me being a Christian away from this and I am not interested if you are a Christian or not. I believe in being good in life and I don't believe in criticizing a person for no reason. Don't know for how long have you been carrying this dislike for me.
Negative or neutral doesn't make a difference. You gave me a feedback just based on a comment makes it look silly.
@bold: Why are you acting like a kid? I am actually imagining you jumping and running from one place to another that erikalui got me removed from the default trust. Mummmaa please help me. I got removed from the default trust. So childish
Please grow up dear. The default trust doesn't make a difference to you in real life nor does my feedback matter to me. (You have said this statement so many times in this thread that I have stopped the count )I never expected to get a negative rating from you nor did I try to provoke you. You got provoked on your own. LOL!
I don't care about the feedback you left me but your accusations were what made me upset and you calling me an alt and that I make small trades to earn trust. You yourself have admitted that my criticism has affected you. You finally lost your cool with my remarks and your mistake costed you to lose your position in the trusted feedback.
"Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to." "The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior."
I dint even write any such thing in my this thread and asked you a reason about the feedback. You have been holding a negative place in your heart for me and we eager to counter attack me which is hilarious.
Don't blame me for provoking you. I'll start laughing now.
Too busy to look... has he been AXED finally? Is the wicked WITCH dead?
Oh so sad.
Erikalui keep fighting the good fight don't let QS bully you and know that many in the community support your efforts to call out this jerk.
Sorry but I don't support your words. I don't hate QS but his actions are not justified. His anger, arrogance and the way he assumes someone to be suspicious/scammer has led to his removal. I used to request him not to assume but he never listened to me and see his frustration now. He is blaming me when it should be the opposite.
I don't know what BadBear was waiting for to remove QS from his list. Having him in there has proved disastrous. Quickseller is obviously an individual obsessed with witch hunting and your case is a crystal clear example.
While you've probably never caused any harm, he felt that it was appropriate to give you such a vague rating only after you expressed your thoughts against him. It's also funny how he goes that far to justify such a rating when he's clearly based it on speculation and personal bias. Not surprisingly though, his comment above where he tries to justify this rating comes with more accusations and a personal attack. Seems like someone didn't learn his lesson.
I really do hope that no one like Quickseller receives a spot in default trust ever again.
While you've probably never caused any harm, he felt that it was appropriate to give you such a vague rating only after you expressed your thoughts against him. It's also funny how he goes that far to justify such a rating when he's clearly based it on speculation and personal bias. Not surprisingly though, his comment above where he tries to justify this rating comes with more accusations and a personal attack. Seems like someone didn't learn his lesson.
I really do hope that no one like Quickseller receives a spot in default trust ever again.
Too busy to look... has he been AXED finally? Is the wicked WITCH dead?
Oh so sad.
Erikalui keep fighting the good fight don't let QS bully you and know that many in the community support your efforts to call out this jerk.
you responded to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone saying that you have the right to cancel a deal. I don't know why you would make that statement in response to my statement if you would not be willing to cancel a deal after the terms were confirmed.
Setting up an escrow as asking the member to escrow the deal. Now what I know you have your own definition of words like "setting up". You have your own definition of "getting sued" as well. You don't even post from an account with your real name unlike me.
I do not have my own definition of getting sued.
You still find me worthy of that feedback which openly proves that because I was criticizing you earlier, you dislike me. Leaving negative feedback for personal reasons is abusing the trust feedback. There is no accusation against me till date which proves that I backed out from a confirmed deal.
No it does not. My feedback is fact based and does not reflect any personal opinions. You do not need to have actually scammed to receive a negative. That however does not matter because I have never left you a negative trust rating, it was neutral the entire time. IMO the fact that you are making such a big deal out of a neutral rating is pretty clear evidence that your prior comments criticizing me was in fact baiting me to leave a negative in order to have a reason to complain to get me removed.
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I said that your posting history is consistent with that of a purchased account, however as MZ pointed out the chances of that are unlikely due to the reuse of an old address.
I said that I was speculating that you are the same as the other person and I specifically said that I did not have any evidence besides the fact that you both are often trolling me and are critical of me. The list of the people that do that to me is pretty small that have not received a negative from me and you both tend to make it into most QS threads.
I said that I was speculating that you are the same as the other person and I specifically said that I did not have any evidence besides the fact that you both are often trolling me and are critical of me. The list of the people that do that to me is pretty small that have not received a negative from me and you both tend to make it into most QS threads.
Wow! Excellent comment. All the people in this entire world who criticize you are my alts. I'm loving your way of judging people.
You forget when I said that QS uses proper grammar. But what to do? According to you I have been criticizing you from previous birth.
Trolling you? I'm trolling ISIS and atheists as well. How if I say that I doubt you are an ISIS member? You would love that too as I constantly post in their threads.
You are forgetting something QS. I made this post after you gave me negative feedback. Although you claim that I always wanted you out of default trust. That was something you had against me as I used to criticize you. If I can remember, shorena also found fault with your feedback earlier.
When did I give you a negative? Do you have a screenshot of such negative? I can tell you right now, as mentioned above none of my ratings against you were ever negative. There is a glaring difference between a neutral and a negative and it would be very difficult to make the mistake between the twoTrolling you? I'm trolling ISIS and atheists as well. How if I say that I doubt you are an ISIS member? You would love that too as I constantly post in their threads.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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You are forgetting something QS. I made this post after you gave me negative feedback. Although you claim that I always wanted you out of default trust. That was something you had against me as I used to criticize you. If I can remember, shorena also found fault with your feedback earlier.
you responded to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone saying that you have the right to cancel a deal. I don't know why you would make that statement in response to my statement if you would not be willing to cancel a deal after the terms were confirmed.
Setting up an escrow as asking the member to escrow the deal. Now what I know you have your own definition of words like "setting up". You have your own definition of "getting sued" as well. You don't even post from an account with your real name unlike me.
I just bolded the statement that "asking an escrow about a deal" doesn't mean that the deal is like a stone. You interpret the statements as per you understanding and leave a feedback which is irrelevant.
You still find me worthy of that feedback which openly proves that because I was criticizing you earlier, you dislike me. Leaving negative feedback for personal reasons is abusing the trust feedback. There is no accusation against me till date which proves that I backed out from a confirmed deal.
I never leave a person a feedback even if he has abused me. I don't even abuse him back even though I feel like. That's me. I will only leave a person a negative feedback is he has scammed me as I have the right and proof as well. I don't leave feedback which does not make any sense.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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You are forgetting something QS. I made this post after you gave me negative feedback. Although you claim that I always wanted you out of default trust. That was something you had against me as I used to criticize you. If I can remember, shorena also found fault with your feedback earlier.
You know what QS. People send me over $100 before confirming a deal with me and before getting a response. If I can't fulfill the deal, I refund their money. These are people whom I've never met in my life but it proves that how much they trust me and don't mind risking their money with me. I've earned their trust and not asked for it unlike you said in your earlier thread that an escrow needs trust.
Asking someone if they can escrow a deal is not setting up escrow. Setting up escrow, in my eyes would be to have both parties confirm the terms of the trade and requesting an escrow agreement.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
I don't know what you think about me whether I'm lying or not. In my posts, nowhere did I mention that I'll back out of a confirmed deal. It was your misunderstanding thinking I want to and that's what you wrote in the feedback you left. I dint edit my statement on that thread which makes you feel I'm backpedaling.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust.
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Asking someone if they can escrow a deal is not setting up escrow. Setting up escrow, in my eyes would be to have both parties confirm the terms of the trade and requesting an escrow agreement.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
I don't know what you think about me whether I'm lying or not. In my posts, nowhere did I mention that I'll back out of a confirmed deal. It was your misunderstanding thinking I want to and that's what you wrote in the feedback you left. I dint edit my statement on that thread which makes you feel I'm backpedaling.
You also are blaming me of buying my own account and that Badbear removed you because of me. You blamed that other user of being my alt. You blamed me of criticizing you and said you were waiting for a chance to give me negative feedback. What should I conclude QS?
I haven't ever told anyone to get you removed from the trust system nor have left you a negative feedback. I have never insulted you or abused you and have only criticized your actions which I felt were wrong and hence you wanted to leave me negative feedback.
Thanks for the revised feedback "Openly stated that he will back out of a deal after the terms of a deal were confirmed and escrow is setup if he can find someone who can offer better terms.
He later said that his statement was regarding the time when terms are still being discussed and not yet confirmed. His original comment was in response to a comment saying that terms of a trade were confirmed."
Please someone pinch me. I deserve this for someone else's misunderstanding
Asking someone if they can escrow a deal is not setting up escrow. Setting up escrow, in my eyes would be to have both parties confirm the terms of the trade and requesting an escrow agreement.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology.
Your statement was in response to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone. At that point the terms of a deal would have had to be confirmed and agreed to. Escrow cannot be setup until that happens (they wouldn't be any way for escrow to be setup without terms agreed to and confirmed first).
Then that's a misunderstand as I set up MZ as an escrow before the deal was confirmed. I dint confirm the deal with the buyer and just asked MZ if he was willing to escrow the deal. MZ can confirm this.
I don't confirm my deal till the buyer says "I agree" and once he says that, I send him the code/money. If you think that setting up an escrow is a deal set in stone, then the person who backed out from my earlier deal deserves to get negative feedback. I had contacted MZ and then the buyer backed out of the deal and I had to inform MZ about it.
I am still immature when it comes to using escrow and yesterday was the first time I used an escrow.
Your statement was in response to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone. At that point the terms of a deal would have had to be confirmed and agreed to. Escrow cannot be setup until that happens (they wouldn't be any way for escrow to be setup without terms agreed to and confirmed first).
The sale of accounts is not against any rules, however that does not mean that people do not buy accounts for doggy reasons. My revised comment does not mention that your account was potentially sold.
The sale of accounts is not against any rules, however that does not mean that people do not buy accounts for doggy reasons. My revised comment does not mention that your account was potentially sold.
@bold: If that's the case, then probably I wouldn't use you as an escrow. If I am not comfortable with the attitude of the buyer/seller or the attitude of the escrow, I am free to cancel the transaction. Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? Why shouldn't I go for a deal that would save me from paying the escrow fee?
The above is my statement. I haven't mentioned anywhere that after a deal is confirmed, I will back out. You are adding these words from your mouth.
I haven't ever stated to withdraw from a transaction after it was confirmed. I said that if in between if I feel uncomfortable before the terms are stated and the deal is confirmed, I can walk out. I won't cheat the buyer/escrow by doing that not has the trade been confirmed. It is still suspended as I did not confirm the trade.
I always state this in my deals that the person should respond in time. If I don't get a reply for over 3-4 hours, I send him a message saying that I cancel the deal. He needs to read the message for his behavior. I cannot keep waiting for his response till dooms day.
Yes, I have traded $0.5 as well. For me it's an amount which can buy me a biscuit packet. I wanted to exchange it as I don't want it in my account as Skrill can shut down. The fact I do this as I have been scammed by Liberty Reserve of $15. I know others will laugh at the amount but I earned it and did not rob it and hence it was a big loss for me.
If you feel that I bought this account, fine. Live with that suspicion as it was you who said via your alt account that where does it show that it's against the rules? You are more intelligent than me when it comes to the rules right. I dislike account selling even today as I wouldn't bare anyone else to be "erikalui". It's my and my mother's name that's attached to my username.
TheGambler deleted his posts and I can't prove that he told me that I am supporting you (used an abusive word) because you are from the default trust list. I guess I criticized you because you were lying about your alt account which I felt weird. I know about alt accounts and how they reply to themselves which is not appreciated.
"Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to."
Again the bolded statement is your assumption. Why do you love assuming things dear? I have criticized even ISIS, atheists, theists and even MZ for the religious beliefs. They did not leave me negative feedback else my account would be full of their feedback.
"You can be sued for any reason despite its validity. Contracts can be written or verbal and do not require any kind of signature to be binding upon you. Verbal contracts are more difficult to enforce because what exactly was agreed to may be difficult to prove. The same is true for contracts entered via an email or a forum post as you can always claim that your account was hacked, it wasn't you, ect. "
Again an assumption that I want to back out of a deal after confirming the terms. I never said that.
My statement: "I have cancelled real deals as well where I needed to rent an apartment and after setting the terms with the broker, I cancelled it as the buyer was a nuisance. "
Here the owner was a cheat. He agreed to cancel the deal and after cancelling it, he deposited the cheque of about $1000 which would make me lose that amount.
"Your previous comment said that you would back out of an accepted/confirmed deal because you found better terms." My statement made earlier "Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? "
This is what I said. It's no where mentioned that I will back out of the deal after agreeing to the terms. Where did I say that terms were agreed or a deal was confirmed? It's one deal without escrow, one deal with escrow. I choose the former. No deal terms/conditions/no confirmation was ever made. Your feedback statement is itself wrong.
I will only backout after confirming with the seller and escrow if there is any kind of issue and not because I got a better offer.
The above is my statement. I haven't mentioned anywhere that after a deal is confirmed, I will back out. You are adding these words from your mouth.
I haven't ever stated to withdraw from a transaction after it was confirmed. I said that if in between if I feel uncomfortable before the terms are stated and the deal is confirmed, I can walk out. I won't cheat the buyer/escrow by doing that not has the trade been confirmed. It is still suspended as I did not confirm the trade.
I always state this in my deals that the person should respond in time. If I don't get a reply for over 3-4 hours, I send him a message saying that I cancel the deal. He needs to read the message for his behavior. I cannot keep waiting for his response till dooms day.
Yes, I have traded $0.5 as well. For me it's an amount which can buy me a biscuit packet. I wanted to exchange it as I don't want it in my account as Skrill can shut down. The fact I do this as I have been scammed by Liberty Reserve of $15. I know others will laugh at the amount but I earned it and did not rob it and hence it was a big loss for me.
If you feel that I bought this account, fine. Live with that suspicion as it was you who said via your alt account that where does it show that it's against the rules? You are more intelligent than me when it comes to the rules right. I dislike account selling even today as I wouldn't bare anyone else to be "erikalui". It's my and my mother's name that's attached to my username.
TheGambler deleted his posts and I can't prove that he told me that I am supporting you (used an abusive word) because you are from the default trust list. I guess I criticized you because you were lying about your alt account which I felt weird. I know about alt accounts and how they reply to themselves which is not appreciated.
"Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to."
Again the bolded statement is your assumption. Why do you love assuming things dear? I have criticized even ISIS, atheists, theists and even MZ for the religious beliefs. They did not leave me negative feedback else my account would be full of their feedback.
"You can be sued for any reason despite its validity. Contracts can be written or verbal and do not require any kind of signature to be binding upon you. Verbal contracts are more difficult to enforce because what exactly was agreed to may be difficult to prove. The same is true for contracts entered via an email or a forum post as you can always claim that your account was hacked, it wasn't you, ect. "
Again an assumption that I want to back out of a deal after confirming the terms. I never said that.
My statement: "I have cancelled real deals as well where I needed to rent an apartment and after setting the terms with the broker, I cancelled it as the buyer was a nuisance. "
Here the owner was a cheat. He agreed to cancel the deal and after cancelling it, he deposited the cheque of about $1000 which would make me lose that amount.
"Your previous comment said that you would back out of an accepted/confirmed deal because you found better terms." My statement made earlier "Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? "
This is what I said. It's no where mentioned that I will back out of the deal after agreeing to the terms. Where did I say that terms were agreed or a deal was confirmed? It's one deal without escrow, one deal with escrow. I choose the former. No deal terms/conditions/no confirmation was ever made. Your feedback statement is itself wrong.
I will only backout after confirming with the seller and escrow if there is any kind of issue and not because I got a better offer.
The claim of the account being purchased is based on the fact that your account was used primarily for giveaways, (and made many very short posts) in its early days, in a fashion that is consistent with someone farming activity to build up "potential activity". The February date is when posting activity picked up substantially. Sure it is possible that you simply gained an interest in the forum around that time, however your account's posting history is consistent with a farmed account. I do not have access to IP addresses nor password changes greater then 30 days ago, so I will need to use evidence that is publicly available and that evidence points to a farmed account.
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Thanks for your reply.
I don't purchase accounts as I myself has stated that many times that I dislike account sales on this forum. I have many other forum accounts with the same username. It's my wish if I make small posts or large posts and how does that affect any other member? I asked Badbear to prove that it's my account and now MZ also has proved it as my bitcoin address is the same. The post in 2013 is not edited FYKI.
I dint even know about Signature Capmpaigns nor about bitcoins till I came here and since I had an exchanger, I tried earning bitcoins. I am an active member of EMS emoneyspace.com/forum/ and that's the place I am comfortable with as there the trust system and scams are moderated unlike here where you or any other person can accuse me of anything I haven't done.
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Address associated with an account can also be sold when selling that account but when I acted as escrow for a trade between him and another user, the funds were released to his address posted in July, 2013. (post).
Using a bought address is insecure and nobody would do that except for testing purposes.
Either way I think it is fair to say that I am allowed to be wrong every now and then as long as I correct myself when shown to be wrong.
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In regards to my other part of my comment, if you agree to a specific deal and your offer is accepted prior to you withdrawing such offer (and a reasonable amount of time has not elapsed) then you have entered into a binding contract.
Not correct.
'Treitel defines an offer as "an expression of willingness to contract on certain terms, made with the intention that it shall become binding as soon as it is accepted by the person to whom it is addressed"'
Does the typical Bitcointalk account seller intend that?
In this hypothetical example you're using, erikalui is the seller and the person making the offer.
If erikalui does not intend for the contract to be binding the moment someone verbally accepts it, then it's not a formal offer but rather an invitation to sell. There's a fine difference.
Given that a high percentage of deals fall through over anonymous forums, then you will find that the courts will agree that the seller may reasonably intend acceptance to be conveyed through payment.
If you don't believe this, just look at Amazon.com.
(1) You add something to your cart
(2) You proceed through the checkout process
(3) The price of an item has increased, you are notified and prompted if you wish to continue the checkout process.
(4) You pay for the order
When does acceptance occur?
(Hint: It's at 4, not at 2).
A better example would be a person signing a contract to buy a house that does not have any kind of contingencies, being accepted by the seller and then the seller backing out of the deal. The buyer would have the right to force the sellers performance in the contract. This kind of agreement is that a deal will take place at a certain point in the future. Your example is one where the offer is contingent on actually receiving payment.
Edit after:amazons offer is actually for you to pay them immediately for what you are buying
edit2: unless the terms of a trade specifically say that the deal is not binding on the parties then the law (and legal precedent) says that it should be assumed that the deal should be binding on all parties. Additionally if escrow is contacted to have escrow setup then it should be reasonable to say that he offer is not an invitation to sell, and/or it could be interpreted that the offer was an invitation to trade, the verbal acceptance was actually the offer and erikalui either contacting escrow or telling the other party to contact escrow to be an acceptance.
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The claim of the account being purchased is based on the fact that your account was used primarily for giveaways, (and made many very short posts) in its early days, in a fashion that is consistent with someone farming activity to build up "potential activity". The February date is when posting activity picked up substantially. Sure it is possible that you simply gained an interest in the forum around that time, however your account's posting history is consistent with a farmed account. I do not have access to IP addresses nor password changes greater then 30 days ago, so I will need to use evidence that is publicly available and that evidence points to a farmed account.
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Thanks for your reply.
I don't purchase accounts as I myself has stated that many times that I dislike account sales on this forum. I have many other forum accounts with the same username. It's my wish if I make small posts or large posts and how does that affect any other member? I asked Badbear to prove that it's my account and now MZ also has proved it as my bitcoin address is the same. The post in 2013 is not edited FYKI.
I dint even know about Signature Capmpaigns nor about bitcoins till I came here and since I had an exchanger, I tried earning bitcoins. I am an active member of EMS emoneyspace.com/forum/ and that's the place I am comfortable with as there the trust system and scams are moderated unlike here where you or any other person can accuse me of anything I haven't done.
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Address associated with an account can also be sold when selling that account but when I acted as escrow for a trade between him and another user, the funds were released to his address posted in July, 2013. (post).
Using a bought address is insecure and nobody would do that except for testing purposes.
Quickseller's feedback on my account:
"Openly stating that he is willing to back out of a deal prior to him committing his money to a trade if he were to find better terms.
"Openly stating that he is willing to back out of a deal prior to him committing his money to a trade if he were to find better terms.
IMO, it's prefect legal to back out of a deal at any time before the trade has actually started - it's called due diligence (thanks Shark Tank!).
It could be offensive to the other side if they had already spend a considerable about of time preparing the deal - but that's a risk you take any time you deal with another person.
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In regards to my other part of my comment, if you agree to a specific deal and your offer is accepted prior to you withdrawing such offer (and a reasonable amount of time has not elapsed) then you have entered into a binding contract.
Not correct.
'Treitel defines an offer as "an expression of willingness to contract on certain terms, made with the intention that it shall become binding as soon as it is accepted by the person to whom it is addressed"'
Does the typical Bitcointalk account seller intend that?
In this hypothetical example you're using, erikalui is the seller and the person making the offer.
If erikalui does not intend for the contract to be binding the moment someone verbally accepts it, then it's not a formal offer but rather an invitation to sell. There's a fine difference.
Given that a high percentage of deals fall through over anonymous forums, then you will find that the courts will agree that the seller may reasonably intend acceptance to be conveyed through payment.
If you don't believe this, just look at Amazon.com.
(1) You add something to your cart
(2) You proceed through the checkout process
(3) The price of an item has increased, you are notified and prompted if you wish to continue the checkout process.
(4) You pay for the order
When does acceptance occur?
(Hint: It's at 4, not at 2).
Thanks dear.
I was wondering why my comment was wrong. I have never cancelled my deals when I got a higher offer as my prices have originally been high. I sell my $5 card for $5. Why will anyone offer me $6? People here insult me for that and still I don't mind.
I was just giving him an example which he dint appreciate. He should check the feedback I've received on the other forum "http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php?action=trader&id=245976"
QS, haven't we argued about leaving trusted feedback after 1 deal? You were the person to say that Escrows need feedback and not me. I said that I don't care about feedback and I stand by it even now.
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In regards to my other part of my comment, if you agree to a specific deal and your offer is accepted prior to you withdrawing such offer (and a reasonable amount of time has not elapsed) then you have entered into a binding contract.
Not correct.
'Treitel defines an offer as "an expression of willingness to contract on certain terms, made with the intention that it shall become binding as soon as it is accepted by the person to whom it is addressed"'
Does the typical Bitcointalk account seller intend that?
In this hypothetical example you're using, erikalui is the seller and the person making the offer.
If erikalui does not intend for the contract to be binding the moment someone verbally accepts it, then it's not a formal offer but rather an invitation to sell. There's a fine difference.
Given that a high percentage of deals fall through over anonymous forums, then you will find that the courts will agree that the seller may reasonably intend acceptance to be conveyed through payment.
If you don't believe this, just look at Amazon.com.
(1) You add something to your cart
(2) You proceed through the checkout process
(3) The price of an item has increased, you are notified and prompted if you wish to continue the checkout process.
(4) You pay for the order
When does acceptance occur?
(Hint: It's at 4, not at 2).
You are another one who has been baiting me for a long time. Although I do not have any evidence of this besides the fact that you both often troll me and are critical of my ratings, I speculate that you are one and the same of the OP.
I have been a controversial person to be on default trust because I have been so effective in finding and outing scammers and alts of scammers. Adding to the controversy is that fact that I have sold/trades a large number of accounts in the past which until recently was very much frowned upon within the community. However I can assure you that some of the most reputable members here also engage in account trading to at least a small extent, just not under their main accounts.
The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior.
I have been a controversial person to be on default trust because I have been so effective in finding and outing scammers and alts of scammers. Adding to the controversy is that fact that I have sold/trades a large number of accounts in the past which until recently was very much frowned upon within the community. However I can assure you that some of the most reputable members here also engage in account trading to at least a small extent, just not under their main accounts.
The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior.
@bold: Thanks again for this comment.
It shows that you do not dislike me but HATE me and other people who don't earn much and go about criticizing you. I have criticized the forum rules of account selling/buying but why would you care checking that.
It brought tears in my eyes to see so much HATRED for me because I earn less. Yes, I'm not rich and I haven't cheated anyone in my life but have been cheated even by my own family members. You would not be able to understand me and I will never be able to understand you.
The only thing I can get out of this is that you aren't a good human being but only a trusted human being. I don't know why Badbear removed you from the trust network but it may be because you have posted a false trust on my profile. I don't ask you to remove it. Keep it if it gives you peace.
It clearly proves from your words that you have just been waiting for an opportunity to leave me a negative feedback. It shows you as a desperate person and you can stoop so low to prove yourself as trusted. I am not happy that you are out of the default trust but I am happy that Badbear now doesn't trust you. He is the admin and I respect his decision.
I stand by my statement that I will never use you as an escrow. I will not even pass by a shop where you might sell your goods/items (if you do so). You will probably scream out "Cheat Cheat Cheat" if I walked out of your store after confirming a purchase. Stores even offer 15 day return warranty but you wouldn't support that.
You have been removed from the default trust list because of your own behavior and don't blame me for that.
No Quickseller, what's making you a controversial figure in this forum is your actions and nothing more. It's accusations like that that make you look bad. Outing a scammer is not controversial, spewing out accusations like it's a hobby for you is more controversial. You're even doing that by talking about me in such a way but it's probably hard for you to realise that. It's hard for you to stop personal attacks, it's hard for you to tell trolling from criticism.
This is why me and several other people are happy that you're out of default trust.
This is why me and several other people are happy that you're out of default trust.
You are another one who has been baiting me for a long time. Although I do not have any evidence of this besides the fact that you both often troll me and are critical of my ratings, I speculate that you are one and the same of the OP.
I have been a controversial person to be on default trust because I have been so effective in finding and outing scammers and alts of scammers. Adding to the controversy is that fact that I have sold/trades a large number of accounts in the past which until recently was very much frowned upon within the community. However I can assure you that some of the most reputable members here also engage in account trading to at least a small extent, just not under their main accounts.
The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior.
I have been a controversial person to be on default trust because I have been so effective in finding and outing scammers and alts of scammers. Adding to the controversy is that fact that I have sold/trades a large number of accounts in the past which until recently was very much frowned upon within the community. However I can assure you that some of the most reputable members here also engage in account trading to at least a small extent, just not under their main accounts.
The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior.