Topic: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers - page 16. (Read 3833 times)

How can the casinos get rid of the addiction in gambling, those addicted gamblers are making them make money at the cause because they never gets tired of gambling and also spent their last money on gambling each time, gambling is very wide that it cannot be moderated as you're talking, even the government cannot do that nit to talk of the casinos, are they the ones to still carter for how we live our lives as well outside gambling.

Come in mind that if there were no gambling addiction then gambling industry wont really be that become so big or something that not making that much revenue on which this is something
turns out to be a typical thing or a solid indication that addiction is always been that part of industry. There might be some people who do able to control their addiction or motive towards gambling but there would be always those people who get addicted into it on which it would really be that resulting into that huge spending into it on which it would be coming into a point
that you are really that losing that much.

Guides and tips on how to treat up addiction could really be found online or even making use of these free services or whatsoever but still in the end,
it would really be that totally depending on how they would really be dealing up with things and make out decisions on their own.

You're right. @Betwrong is being idealistic in this case expecting stuff which will never happen because humans are inherently greedy and that is why gambling addiction will never fully go away.

However, it can be minimised to a certain extent which is exactly what op is trying to do through his project.

Well, this is not to sound pessimistic but there would have never, and there will never be such a thing as no gambling addicts,, as long as its humans playing gambling, there will always be abuse, and abuse the major thing that gave or gives birth to addiction.

If there were really no gambling addicts, sure there would have been alot  of people giving attention to gambling which simply means that gambling casinos would have had more customers.

But also understand that, the more the number of people in gambling, the more chances that there would be a good number of abusers, and gambling abuse is one of those things that leads to gambling addiction.

So, if you consider this, you will realize that it is still the same, it's like running around in circles, what would have been if there was no addiction is what that is currently is, because there was and is never a time there wouldn't have been addiction in gambling.

Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. I think it would be too ignorant to expect people to just gamble responsibly, where in fact, the thing they play is addictive. Not all people have great self-control toward themselves from external influences.

So I believe the OP initiative is what solves and fixes those who need help, outside of casino control to enforce their gambling responsibility policy, such as limiting or restricting users from playing.

I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.

Well, this may sound very easy in words but not in practice,  because at some point,  you still have to know that even though those casinos that are registered are mandated to follow regulatory guidelines for their operations and players' welfare,  but even at that, there still will focus more on the revenue for the operation so for such it becomes obviously clear that not all the restriction rules will be followed by the casino and that have been the major issues as regards to casinos taking the responsibility to control their client's gambling behaviour.

The highest that they can do is to set an age limit which has already been set to 18+ or better still have a self-exclusion feature,  but anything outside these two,  the casino sees it as a drawback for their profit since they are in the business for the profits.

You see, people don't know many things, they believe everything can be done the way anyone likes it, but it's not always so. In a sane world, there are rules and everyone has their quote to contribute, or else things would go out of control. Talking about the house's responsibility in this context, in some countries, you would not be able to operate a casino without fully registering and being regulated, and if you do all these, you have to obey the rules as operators. One of the rules is for you to have the welfare of your customers at heart, particularly those who could be going through financial and addiction challenges. As much as the house would not know everyone personally to build relationships with them to know the problem in order to ship in their advice and recommendations, they are mandated to have the "Self-exclusion" feature on their website.

This is applicable to land-based casinos too, and it's just like signing an agreement that such a person will not visit their casino for a certain period of time due to a specific reason. However, I've read a series of cases that casinos do not obey as they allow such people to cancel the feature and start gambling again. But the government should not hear such as it's a very serious offence in some countries like the UK as it's a layer to force the house to take responsibility too.

In order to overcome addiction, it's really crucial that there's a willingness. Because the gamblers needs to help themselves first to start the journey of changing what they used to. Those who are currently experiencing a gambling problem can find support from each other who are also going through the same situation. Anyway, the site is good for gamblers who really want to quit and wants to overcome their gambling problem. But it will only work if the gambler itself is really willing and ready to leave gambling and determine to stop on how to effectively do it.

Not sure how effective the service this platform can be but it's still a good move. Any effort that may help an addictive gambler to stop gambling should be appreciated. And let's not forget they are offering this for free (if I'm not mistaken) so there is no harm in giving it a shot.
It can be a good alternative for support groups which most people can't attend for different reasons, especially with their forum and chat feature where you can talk about your problem with people from around the world.

Only if you know and understand the theory behind the process of building a house and demolishing one, you could see that one is very easy to do while the other is very hard to achieve, same thing likewise is being made applicable to gamblers lifestyle experience, if you want to get addicted, then it's easy to do but if you want to get out of it, that's not an easy task to do at all because it will require alot of efforts together with force to accomplish.

Yes, you would really be that needing to reassess on the things that you are currently dealing. It is really that impossible that you wont really be able to notice whether you are still in good shape or not.

On the time that you would really be finding yourself that addicted then self denial would really be that common and you would really be just that rejecting those events just
to follow on what your leisure seeking kind of emotion do really give out. You would really be that not minding whether you are doing the wrong or right thing because once you are
on such condition then it would really be that likely that you would really be that ending up on getting addiction on severe manner.

Things turns out to be uncontrollable if you do let yourself not to have that good control of your mind and with your emotions. You would really be ending up on a disaster.

I also think it will be easier for someone who is not already a gambling addict to be convinced out of turning into one than talking to someone who is already into it. I mean, there is a possibility of bringing an addict out of it, but the job will be easier if they don't even turn into one at all, like educating them on the things they need in order not to get addicted, just like our people usually say, "Prevention is better than cure."
 
Some gambling addicts always find it very hard to leave their addiction, no matter how hard they try to get out of it. They just keep their stock in it, and those who manage to get out of it most times happen to have already ruined their lives up to some certain level, which will take them time to rebuild.

The most important thing is the willingness to help other to overcome gambling addictions and the ops have chosen to select a few people as the project progress and there is a success ratio then he can decide to increase the number of beneficiaries and at some point also the ability to increase the number of those who may enrol in this is depending on the willingness of the gambler to quit by all means.

So with that readiness to quit,  it becomes easier for them to quit with little effort,  so first before the ops can take in new addicts for rehabilitation,  he should first check out for those who are truly ready to quit gambling.

In the end, it all comes down to our own will. If we don't have the self-confidence to decide to quit it permanently, nothing can make us do it. When it becomes an addiction, it is not impossible to quit. But it is surely hard. Humans are slaves to habit. Doing it over and over makes it a habit and as humans we get used to it.

Also, what are you against responsible gambling? It is a legit process on how you can make one quit gambling. Getting rid of addiction is a long process and when you take everything away at once, people will likely become more addicted to it. For this reason, people decrease the amount of gambling slowly and when they are introduced to responsibility, they will take that option over anything else. Because in this option, they are having the opportunity to still gamble. As humans we are drawn to the very thing that we are told not to do. Instead of taking it all away, we give them two choices which are not being able to do it or do it with some regularities. As an addict, they will always go for the second option.

I have been there and I know how it works. Maybe your method also works, but that doesn't mean others are not going to work the same.
Anyway, it is a good thing that you are providing this service for free. I wish you guys more success in the future. Good luck.

That's not true, I'm not sure about offline casinos but I've seen several online platforms having responsible gambling tags and some even have warnings that one should gamble at their own risk and only use money that they can afford to lose. So, even if they care about their customers or not, they do give such warnings to the customers so that they are not blamed in case a customer loses everything and then starts blaming the casino for their losses which some people do but if the casino has already given a warning and they still went and lost the money, it's their fault.

I also think that a casino does not have to do that because it's a business for them and people should already know that there is a high chance that they lose their money when gambling and if they are still doing it, they should take the responsibility on themselves instead of blaming anyone.

Something is better than nothing which is why what op is trying to do will not help many, but will definitely help a few and that by itself is a great accomplishment if you think about it.

Also, I disagree with your opinion about op sounding pessimistic. He is just being realistic while you are the one who actually sounds pessimistic here.

If quitting gambling seems impossible on our own, we will try to look for other ways that can possibly help us with our problem and one of them is the sites like this. Gambling is huge and so as the gamblers and the people who are addicted on it. I still believe that many addicted gamblers badly wants to change their selves.

There are addicted gamblers who can easily leave on their own, that is because their condition is not severe yet. I'm not sure if you are also one of them but if not, it's great that you still appreciate this website's efforts. Even me as well, even though I'm not an addict in gambling yet but we don't know in the future , or my kids, partner, family members, friends, etc.. are going to suffer the same condition. If so, I already know if where to go because my knowledge about gambling addiction may not be enough.

You are right, atleast, for the fact that I was actually amazed the day I was browsing through Stake.com and decided to check out what's in there in their Stake safe, the is a menu that can be found in the menu tab, I read the all the content in this program and I was really impressed with the way stake presented every thing about responsible gambling, after going through the content, I thought to myself that, if gambler can take time to go through such information before they start gambling, we probably will have less gambling addicts roaming our streets looking for solution on how to cure themselves.

Like it is commonly said that prevention is better than cure, gamblers should really engage themselves in going through responsible gambling programs, this will help keep our mind conscious of the possibilities of gambling addiction, and help us prevent such from happening to us.

Do you really believe that a few step by step tip is gonna stop an addictive gambler to quite? I've seen cases where gamblers went as far as going to see therapists to help them resolve their gambling addictions all to no avail. I'm not saying this isn't a good step, it is, all I'm saying is that the poster sounds so pessimistic about using this program to make addictive gamblers to quite. I'm just saying that contrary to the actual intent of this project, the result might be completely different.


But here's what could also work if you're so enthusiastic about helping addictive gamblers, try moving your targets to those who aren't addicted already, or those who haven't even started gambling, I don't know how you can reach out to the targeted audience but I feel if you do that, you'll be helping more people than you can ever imagine.