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Two are different things but having on the same issues in speaking or talks about addiction and this is something a problem that needs to be resolved but actually gambling addiction is really that different in the

sense that it isnt something that could affect out your body or health literally on which in this thing alone then we can say that it is really that totally different approach on how to resolve things
in terms of addiction. In overall it would really be still considered to be a probelm and to those platforms or individuals who are creating something for the benefit
of these addicted gamblers then it would really be that something commendable.

There's no such thing about being free, if there's one then lets just appreciate on what are the things that they are dedicatively trying to make some solutions
somehow.

It sure is, they are right about it. A gambler that doesn't control their emotions and stay away from getting addicted will suffer more as time goes by because they keep going deeper into the sea of addiction.

It doesn't take you away from your problems but makes you busy and keep your problems hidden until you stop and come out of the casino to realize that you had problems, and as you said, it only increases the problems if not done with limits and control.

Acknowledgment from the addict is important if they want to get out of it because if the gambler doesn't even accept the fact that they are addicted, no one can help them get out of their addiction. So, they help themselves by accepting their addiction and openly talking about their problems so that the ones hearing can help them get out of it.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  

The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

This advice is very good but the gambler must be responsible and have come to his senses before he could be thinking this way. This is actually a sign of a new birth because no matter what you tell those who are addicted to gambling, they will not yield, while many of them do not even have the sense to think about gambling too much not to mention the guilt from it. Gambling is best done responsibly and if anyone has the guilt of gambling too much, it must have been the person who is losing much or not gaining much, because I don't know anyone who will be winning in gambling and still be feeling guilty about it, guilt of what? This is why taking a break once in a while is advised for such a person, and if gambling is too good to take such a break, the person might want to limit the gambling time, this also helps.

And in case taking a break is what such would opt for, it's good to use the spare time opportunity to learn more about how to gamble to gain, and find ways to minimize losses. There are ways to manage one's portfolio while gambling through some calculations and plans, I strongly suggest that too.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.

I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

Really impossible that you cant really be able to determine on whats good and whats bad. Its true that even on the time that we are seeing  that it is already negatively affecting us but still
you didnt really make any actions but rather you do continue on what you are doing. People would really be just completely stopping on the time  that they wont be able to make some bets anymore.
This is a common scenario or common situation on which it isnt really that shocking anymore. We would really be just that making steps or actions on the time that
we are already that devastated on which if we had just made outright decisions then we wont really be making yourself fall out into such condition.

We often go by what we see because there's more of efforts shown in them which we also appreciates, then from there we proceed further in choosing to listen to them, and before we know it  we are giving a try already because we have gambling as a point of being entertained and the first encounter we also had become an irresistible one, this is how it al just started and before we could realize, we are already going far.

This is a typical example of people who do not have their own mind, they are easily cajoled with what to see, hear or are being influenced by. But those who have their own minds, let me call it a strong mind, will be reading and hearing all those and be smiling and moving away. They will only engage in such if they want to and not because of what the influencers or advertisers say. But really, the temptation of the marketers/influencers is much and could be so irresistible, especially if the company is running promos. There are some promos that personally motivate me, but the terms and conditions attached to them often send me back to my normal self. This is why I hardly gamble with promos/bonuses, I like to use my own money so that I play with my own freedom as well.

Above all in relation to your concluding part, if anyone has a bad mindset about gambling due to advertisements and the rest thinking they lured him into it, then the person is not mature. As an adult, you are free to decide maybe you agree or decline, no one is forcing anyone, and if you agree to gamble conditions, then it's all on you, which is why you have to know what you are signing for and then try your best to gamble and win. After all, some people are still winning in gambling.

I guess it's a normal thing when we feel guilty, we try to find some holes that we can reason out for that mistake we've made.

Exactly. There's no problem if we make mistakes as that happens for sometimes but it won't be normal anymore if we keep making mistakes. But other than that, when we make mistakes, it's also fine to admit it and then just do our best to correct it.

Just be the better version of yourself. Sometimes when we can't forgive ourselves, we're staying to that part that we can't do better because we keep on dwelling in the past and that makes us stuck there. I agree that someone who's struggling to quit just need to admit first that you made a mistake, you're addicted to gambling and then try to do something to move on and make use of your time for some other things.

The reason is because the casino have rules, everyone believes an adult should be responsible for their actions or decision. It's not that they don't care about addicted players. Casinos work hard not to accept a banned addict into their casino. Mainly in online casino. Yet players always have numerous methods of bypassing these restrictions. It's the duty of players to gamble reasonably and not fall victim of problem gambling. The casino won't be there to assist anybody to stop playing gambling. That's why OP's website is crucial in changing the lives of addicted players. Not sure if addicted players affects the gambling traffic. Instead it gives it more publicity. Without gambling addiction, the society will honor the business, and maybe a huge number of people would have joined. But, that's not a good idea of any business. It will only reduce the value of gambling and thereby pump money at the initial stage, then later the same people will prefer to stop. Gambling can't be for all the people. Whether it provides less addiction or not. Moreover, people must get addicted to something. No way gambling addiction won't exist, when there is sport addiction. People who must watch a football match to be happy. It's better to have a traffic we can control and satisfy via customer service, than an uncontrollable traffic. Casinos still make money, from both addicts and responsible players.

In the USA, this can be safely avoided with the SSN. Most of the casinos ask for an SSN and the OTP verification on the SSN-affiliated phone number follows that. Isn't this something that can secure children from registering on the casino? I think other countries are more vulnerable to such scams from happening. For example, in tier 3 countries the KYC's are easy to get and the illiteracy rate can make things worse for the parents and children. I mean even 16-year-olds can get their hands on their parent's phone, and easily get the KYC done with the OTPs. However, for the USA things could be very strict. It may not be that accessible for their children to get their hands on their parent's phone. I am not making any assumptions here, but it seems only proper guidance to our children can make things good for them. Maybe a strict environment where they understand the risk of getting involved with such things or websites.

Children can verify simply by borrowing the identity of their parents or other adults. They may also have a photo of their parents' ID so they can verify it directly on the casino site. The casino won't know because the kids have already given up their identities. And the casino will agree to the verification.

This will enable children to gamble easily, especially if they know how to deposit and withdraw money. That may be one of the reasons why casinos implement KYC on their sites to avoid underage children registering. Even though it can't stop these children from registering, at least the casino has implemented or followed the rules set by the regulator.

The casinos are not to blame because they also do not require those children or even adults to register with their casinos. This is where parents play a role in being able to monitor their children when they use devices connected to the internet.

of course every gamblers will be on their watch or at least those who are interested in
seeking help , we cannot force people doing things and even more that we cannot prevent people from
 gambling but at least the initiative is to let people have better understanding and deep knowledge
about gambling.Thats it , How can they be so sure that the details sent is from the one they wanted to provide?
because nowadays it is easy to send ID's or even pretend it was them because of High technology.

I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

People tend to look for excuses when they feel guilty, so first step is to understand that it is ok to make mistakes, that you are still a human being capable of improvement and adaptation. You are not bad because you are gambling too much, you are bad if you decide to do nothing about it. Forgive yourself, move on, change and improve.

People do really loves on giving out blame to other things on which they would really be always having that denial that they are the ones who are at mistake. They would really be
denying as much as they could. No one would really be able to help yourself if you are that minding about gambling in the first place.You would really be looking for yourself
to play no matter what and there's no service or platforms or whatever institution that would be able to help out such addiction. There are really some advises or online
tools or similar that might be helpful but in the end of the day, it would really be that still depending on you.

You are right, I personally would say that the addiction problems are not primarily the fault of the Casinos, the casinos are companies, they are businesses and they have the businesses because they want to generate money, in this case they make a lot of money  , but they also need players, and especially young players are taught, it is known that when a player falls into addiction it is difficult for him to return once he no longer has money, and that is not the idea, it is more common that there is a person who always has money, controls himself and always be the casino customer, because it is more money that goes to the casino, I say this Taking into consideration the house advantage and the considerations that are like the complexity of the same game that is Chosen to play, which is very different from sports betting that already depends on other factors that are beyond the advantage of lacquers, but even so the casino will always have a way to win with sports Betting, in this order of ideas, I see the problem of addiction not as It is not a casino or an industry that does not exist like this, but it is only the consequence of the very Player who becomes like this, of losing control at that point.

A person is different from many, everyone has their personality and knows how they react to different events, one person can solve a problem in a more orderly way than another, but it takes longer, another is messy but solves a problem quickly, the same thing happens. When a person becomes addicted, but this person wants to get better, then he follows the instructions given to him, because he does his part, because he knows that in the end it will harm him , but there are those who are in addiction, they do not take the advice of Nobody, neither from the proefeisnoales nor from any type of aid, why? because we all have our own Personality and we know how to act in the face of these, hence the consideration that each of us knows how we are and how we can quickly get out of that problem if we do not want to solve it and be with the problem.

Also, this is a hard battle for them because they won't determine if the verifications and IDs sent to them is the actual owner and that's why they are being stricter with such policies as for holding the ids and selfies. Because kids can just ask their parents to do it if they have the consent but as long as they have their own measures in doing it, there's no problem at all and they are only complying to the rules of the government that's being placed on them.

Yeah, if they feel that there's something wrong on that account. They're free to do it as that's their own platform and they're the kings of it. Asking for additional verifications and IDs is typically happening in every casino that we know of.