Topic: racism defamation law (Read 581 times)

`

jes and the us government also says, that human rights can only be given by god, the courts in the usa are only meant to channelise the hatred and anger of the violent and protesting mob.

no man courts never worked in no societies at all

Courts in the West were never meant to work. In the USA, people were meant to work the courts.

When the people understand who/what they are/are-not, then they work the courts. The magistrates are people and can be brought to court just like any other man/woman.

One of the basic keys for working the courts is to recognize that you are not the name on a piece of paper, and that the only way you become such a name is by accepting it. Rather, stand as the man/woman that you are.

if course it can, ignoring that fact, is basically making free way for racism.

you are such a retard. especially because of retards like you we need such laws. or the society will continue to be distrusted.

and the word oppession is also a difficult to used, term, as is slavery. slaves where a commodity back then same like todays salary slaves. slaves where bought by black african slave traders,

those slaves labour was then exploited, same like the migrant underclass that was financially excluded after slavery was abolished.

"the oppressed" will always exist" if its not possible to define them with skincolor (which in my oppinion is simply just a trick and a delusion of the truly rich)

white working class is being played against black working class by the white capitalist class. thats what happened after cold war.

regards

Because it will not benefit the lawmakers. Racism is clear and simple! The group that have historically been oppressed cannot really be racist or accused of being racist!

courts in the west increasingly don't work anymore, only thing that works are social sanctions, vigilantism etc. thats sad, but racism defamation have been used for to long without any shame, last important example is the defamation of president trump who is constantly being defamed to be racist, although he is only a republican.

This is the way that the USA is set up... innocent until proven guilty. Now, before you jump to conclusions, read the rest.

The word "person" is one of the most important words in USA law regarding people. A person is the name on an agreement. It is NOT a human being until a human accepts that it is.

This means that if a person is accused of defamation, and there is court paperwork stating such, nobody knows who the person on the paperwork is until a man/woman accepts that the person refers to him. That's why there are attorneys... to trick a man/woman into accepting that the person named on some court document is him/her. An attorney will never tell you that the person on the court doc is just a made-up person, unless you accept that it is you.

If you say the person is NOT you, there are several easy ways to determine this. One simple way is to poke the doc with a knife. If it bleeds, it might be you... because you bleed when they poke you with a knife. (If its blood type is different than yours, then it is not you.)

The point is (no knife pun intended), in the USA, if a man or woman defames you in a way that damages you somehow, file a claim against the man/woman, and write the word "man" or "woman" in the claim. Standard court docs almost never say the name of the accused, like... "John Doe, a man" or "Jane Doe, a woman." If you do this, and stand in court unrepresented, you can make the "fight" to be between you and another human being. If you win, you get the damages you require in your claim. But, if you lose, you might wind up paying the damages to the other human.

why i just want a just world where someone can't defame others without proof

today the defamed one has to proof he is innocent and not the defamer

innocent till proven guilty is a foundation in modern law.

Simple, because freedom of speech and expression. There would be way too many cases popping up if people sued for every racist little thing. We need to grow up and learn to ignore the race baiting that so often happens today. So would they called you a nasty derogatory word, are we going to moan and cry over everything in society today? Today's generation of society is becoming softer and more PC. Today you can witness the rise of social justice where keyboard warriors feel the right to voice their opinion on someone else's matters and issues, it's toxic and sickening.
  Unless there is some direct threat against you like a group of Nazi's pointing a gun at you, or a African American is about to be strung up a tree by a lynch mob, there is no need to nag and complain about every little racist thing to the courts, especially because of words.
  Racism toward other human beings will come to a slow crawl once automation starts getting the first dibs on Jobs and other statuses. Then everyone will hate robots, ever see the movie "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" by Steven Spielberg? All races will ban together and only direct their racism at the robots.

seems kingscorpio wants to make this topic into some trump superfan showboat of how loyal he is to trump.

rather than discussion the ethics and rules and reality of racist dafamation law.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/

The concept of “race” is built on false pretenses.  Racism is not morally wrong because the existence of race is  scientifically inaccurate.

Religion is built upon similarly structured false pretenses. Socially accepted falsehoods and mythological folklore.

jes it does matter because racism is wrong, we where told that in the west long time.

christians aren't allowed to be racist actually. they still appropriated ideals like beauty, in various kingdoms.

the devil was considered ugly,
light and brightess as good and holy and darkness as evil, from that racism manifasted itself

You say that as if his “Christian” Religion and the fact that he currently lives under capitalist economic policies  - is somehow proof that he is not racist. There are millions and millions of both racist Christians and also racist capitalists.  The KU Klux Klan is both Christian and Capitalist.

Now don’t confuse this for me saying Trump is a racist.  I am not at all saying that. I’m just poking a hole in your use of the Christian ideology and capitalist economy as proof of  some moral high road which inherently nullifies the possibility of hatred and ignorance. It does not.  In fact, I am
Inclined to think quite the opposite. But I’ll keep that to myself.

Racist or not racist? Does it matter? Well, i don’t believe it should. Mostly because “race” is (according to what I have researched) a social construct rather than A biological or genetic occurrence. ALL of the information that I could find from leading academic institutions seem to indicate that race is a social creation based off of perception rather than anything of a scientific basis.

With that idea in mind, now ask the question of whether he is racist or not? —— well “race” is mostly just a fabrication based on differences that we previously had no way of explaining - just like uhhhhh - religion....

Modern science can help put these outdated beliefs and ideologies to rest if we simply look at the research and let go of the rhetoric.

nope you are wrong, only the election is a legitimate impeachment, everything else is simply deep state lobby trash.

democrats know exactly that they can't win an election against trump thats why they are desperate trying to impeach him

if your talking about trump again (i know your a foolish superfan).. then trump is not being destroyed.
take it like an employment contract. his impeachment is just a employment reprimand that could lead to him having to resign.

and after wards. he will be more successful than ever for showing off he has had the top seat and america didnt burn under his watch. so investors will happily invest in his future ventures.

if you want to rebut that his reputation is tarnished. well im afraid to tell you this but his own words tarnished his own reputation. media just reported it.
so trump overal wont make any impactful financial loss due o things said about him. and media wont make a loss due to the opposite. so there is no civil case of defamation.

oh and by the way. if you dont want to constantly be accused of being racist. stop acting like one.
USA has the statue of liberty that quotes wanting to take in people of other countries. but trumps own words wants to buid a wall to keep foreigners out.

its HIS ACTIONS that caused the drama. and he should accept the consequences of HIS ACTIONS and not blame media for just talking about HIS ACTIONS

and why live with constantly being accused of racism, by people that want to destroy you?

freedom of speach is still freedom of speach.. it only becomes defamation (yet again i have to tell you this) if that 'speach' is directed at a person. AND that person has received harm due to it directly caused.


your free to say what you like. but expect repercussions if what you say or do negatively affects anyone.
its like the dumdum called badecker thinks his 'freedom to trave' means he can tresspass..
no.
he can walk. but that does not mean there is no consequences to his action from being on property that has rules and limitations on who/why someone should be on it.

say what you like but if their are consequences to your actions. accept the consequences.

media did not get hurt and neither did trump by the drama your trying to bait about racism.

and yes me saying badecker is a dumdum doesnt mean i commited a crime nor mean i have to prove it.

freedom of speech is pointless if a violent mob around you will limit it.

If they are in America then yeah, they can say that - and it doesn't matter what race they are.  Freedom of speech is vigorously defended here.

well then white people today can say, they dont want immigrants from africa/asia and other regions of the world because those are not diverse and the poplation there could be racist.

why else should white countries be open for everyone and all other countries only for the ethnicities living there.

There's nothing wrong with speculating.

Unless you have absolutely all information that could possibly be available (almost never the case, especially when it comes to what a public figure actually thinks), you have two options: speculate || stop thinking about it.