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hero member
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June 12, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
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probably a good place to ask...

I'm getting 100% CPU (main CPU) on my 2x5870s and just want to check that this is what I'm supposed to see... it's not a huge deal for me since I have a dedicated mining rig but I heard something about SDK versions affecting main CPU.

My details are:

AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor (2 cores)
2 x XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870
OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10) FULL_PROFILE
8.850.0.0 - Catalyst 11.5 (4-19-2011) - GL:atig6pxx.dll
Windows 7 x64
phoenix miner with phatk kernel

Only asking because I presume running 100% CPU uses more power...?  Also dropping the CPU would allow me to use it as a reliable fileserver as well.

Will
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I have significant experience mining with these cards so let me help you out and save you some time.

...

I also mine with two 6870's
they love to run with high core clocks
get em both at 1025 core and 180 mem
give me 295-305 mh/s all day


Hope I could help.

When I set the memory so low (180mhz) on my two 6870's it has a big negative impact on the hash rate:

1025mhz/180mhz: ~270 mh/s
1025mhz/300mhz: ~310 mh/s

I run the following phatk kernel flags under phoenix on Win 7 with the latest CC drivers, SDK, etc:

DEVICE=X VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=256 AGGRESSION=11

I was running with aggression=13 but I found it made my systems less stable.
newbie
Activity: 44
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Hey there,

just ordered a returned Gigabyte 5870 for 177€ at computeruniverse.net .

Actually got a Nvidia 8800GTS running with a bequiet 430W power supply.

Wondered if I'd need a new power supply and fan(s) for the 5870? I'm running an Athlon Dual 6000+ with 2GB DDR2 Ram.

If so, what power supply would you suggest, and how much power/fans do I need if I wanna OC the 5870?

Thanks for help, Uhren
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5870 950/300 420 MH/S SDK 2.4 Phoenix phatk agggresion 14
legendary
Activity: 1148
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Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
I have significant experience mining with these cards so let me help you out and save you some time.


The 5870 is an awesome card. You can mine stable at 415-420mh/s
use MSI Afterburner and overlcock it to 980 core and 180 mem
set the fan at 75%

I have two that have been hashing for months without a crash or a reboot.

The 5830's are a little slower but you can get around 280-300 mh/s stable
clock these also at 1000 core but they like the 300 mem clock sweet spot
also set fans to 75%


I have two of each.

I also mine with two 6870's
they love to run with high core clocks
get em both at 1025 core and 180 mem
give me 295-305 mh/s all day


Hope I could help.

What about power consumption?
hero member
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I have significant experience mining with these cards so let me help you out and save you some time.


The 5870 is an awesome card. You can mine stable at 415-420mh/s
use MSI Afterburner and overlcock it to 980 core and 180 mem
set the fan at 75%

I have two that have been hashing for months without a crash or a reboot.

The 5830's are a little slower but you can get around 280-300 mh/s stable
clock these also at 1000 core but they like the 300 mem clock sweet spot
also set fans to 75%


I have two of each.

I also mine with two 6870's
they love to run with high core clocks
get em both at 1025 core and 180 mem
give me 295-305 mh/s all day


Hope I could help.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Lifetime might be decreased by temperature, keep below 80C.
newbie
Activity: 37
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On my 5870s, I get close to 400 at 900/300Mhz (see my post above). With overclocking I meant going above 900MHz and at higher voltages than AMDOverdriveCtrl allows me to. For me it seems to be not much more than 10% gain, and I doubt I want to risk my hardware for that. It would also require a BIOS flash, which may not be entirely without risk either.
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"I'm not psychic; I'm just damn good"
I'm running on LinuxCoin v0.2a

Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme 1GB | 360 MHash/s | OC @ 900/300 | Phoenix w/ phatk |
Sapphire HD5970 1GB | 375 Mhash/s (Per Core) | OC @ 850/300 | Phoenix w/phatk |

5970 are after market, didn't come with box so I don't know what edition. Not really into GPU.

Not sure of my CC, SDK, Phoenix & phatk versions. All came with LinuxCoin. Still trying to migrate to Ubuntu.
Would appreciate some input from others too Smiley

BTW, seems to run more stable on poclbm although gets 330 Mhash/s on 5850 & 350 Mhash/s on 5970. phatk gives better Mhash/s.

I have quite a couple of those so the +30 & +25 Mhash/s adds up to a lot. (2x5970 = +100Mhash/s, 6x5850=+180Mhash/s) More 5850 coming in next week.

Never owned 5830 nor 5870. Might move onto them once the supply of 5850 runs out. Which doesn't seem likely yet.

OP can you let me know what are you doing to your HD4850 to get 80 Mhash/s? I can't seem to get a stable OC on Linux. I used to just Overdrive max core clock w/o messing around with mem clock on Windows.
legendary
Activity: 1148
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Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
So how much does OC'ing cost in terms of lifetime?  Seems to yield an extra 10% in hash rate,  is it worth it?

It can be significantly more than 10%....

Stock I was at 292 MHs with poclbm.  OC'd I'm at 392 MHs with phoenix.

That's some 30%!

Over-time-damage can be a gamble and often you can damage more than just your videocard.  Cheap components on motherboards and PSUs will go up in smoke sometimes as well as getting a general life reduction.


Yeah, the 5870 does around 350 Mh/s without overclocking and 445Mh/s OC (maybe others get even more). If you lower the memory speed, keep the voltage low (I have 1'080 while maximum non-OC is 1'136) and the heat is low, why should it be a problem?
copper member
Activity: 56
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So how much does OC'ing cost in terms of lifetime?  Seems to yield an extra 10% in hash rate,  is it worth it?

It can be significantly more than 10%....

Stock I was at 292 MHs with poclbm.  OC'd I'm at 392 MHs with phoenix.

That's some 30%!

Over-time-damage can be a gamble and often you can damage more than just your videocard.  Cheap components on motherboards and PSUs will go up in smoke sometimes as well as getting a general life reduction.
newbie
Activity: 37
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So how much does OC'ing cost in terms of lifetime?  Seems to yield an extra 10% in hash rate,  is it worth it?
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
Im getting 445 Mh/s with 5870 @1005:340 (one needed 350, dont know why) with a very small overvolting with voltage between 1'080-1'075 (depending on the card). Using phoenix, phatk kernel with 2.4 SDK in Ubuntu. The card with higher temperature is always under 70º, usually around 60-65 (no computer case). Fans at 90%.

I have gotten some to over 460 Mh/s with more voltage and more core speed, but they crash after a while. Stable 445 Mh/s is the max Ive gotten.
full member
Activity: 124
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hmm yeah I have not checked out the CD that came with the card since I had to remove the IDE cable in order to install it Smiley have to open it at another computer ...

So does anyone know about 5870 BIOS flashing? is it possible to do with MSI cards?
full member
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I believe MSI's overclocking tool is Afterburner. Some suggest using 256 for worksize instead of 128, not sure under what conditions that makes a difference. Not sure also about using fastloop or fastloop=false.

Here is the place to get SDK 2.1 but as I say I found it unnecessary personally:
http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK/downloads/pages/AMDAPPSDKDownloadArchive.aspx
full member
Activity: 124
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I used aggression from 5 to 11, the best seems to be 6 since it both allows about 296 Mh/s when idle and does not make screen display slow. At 11 I get 300 but everything else is so slow it's just not worth it.
full member
Activity: 154
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Using 2.4 with phoenix/phatk seems to give the same results people report using 2.1. What value are you using for aggression? Up to a point (ie if GPU utilization is a lot under 100%) you can increase hash rate by increasing the aggression value.
full member
Activity: 124
Merit: 100
Just got my MSI 5850.
Can only OC using catalyst, up to 775. This is not much.
Tried with stock poclbm -v -w128, getting around 280.
With phoenix, same with poclbm kernel, with phatk BFI_INT VECTORS WORKSIZE=128 I am getting 295 to 300.

Anybody got any hints about this card? Because I've seen people claim getting 350+ with it...

Is it possible to OC it a bit more? Any additional tools I need on win7 and linux?
Can it be flashed to 5870 for any positive change? Are there any risks involved?

Also I've read somewhere that ATI APP SDK 2.1 gives better results than 2.4.. If so, is there place I can get that 2.1 version at?
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Just want to let you know the results of my optimization:

4x XFX 5870 1GB
LinuxCoin
Clocks: 900 / 300, standard voltage (AMDOverdriveCtrl)

phoenix.py run from command-line (not start_mining script)
kernel: phatk (15-20 MHash/sec higher than withpoclbm)

flags:
VECTORS
AGGRESSION=9 (Increasing AGGRESSION makes system slower and does not further increase hashrate)
BFI_INT
WORKSIZE=256 (10MHash/sec higher than with 128)
DEVICE:  (0,1,2 or 3)

hashrate: 395 MHash/sec
temps: 63-78 oC (lowest to highest mounted card)

Cards are on a 890FXA-GD70 with a 1200W CoolerMaster PSU in a closed HAF X at 25 oC ambient temp.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Just wanted to give a quick update for everyone, and see what kind of improvements the 58xx series cards have had with the new BFI_INT support on the mining side. I've actually gotten some pretty surprising results with this config:

1 x XFX 5830 HD 1GB
Windows 7 64 bit
Catalyst 10.7 and SDK 2.1
Currently clocked at 970MHz Core, 390MHz Memory
Running Phoenix Miner with askrate=10 -k poclbm VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP AGGRESSION=7 DEVICE=1
Temps ~ 70 - 74°C w/fans at 90%
~ 288 - 290 MHash/sec while playing music in iTunes and posting this in Firefox with 3 tabs open

I'm wondering what the 5850 and 5870 look like with the new miners to do a bit of a cost/benefit analysis...the 5830 set me back a whopping $109, and that was brand new from Newegg. I'm sure I could have gotten a used one for half of that, and that could save me a lot of money setting up mining rigs. Power is kind of a moot point, since I pay like 4 cents a kW.

Does anyone else have some stats to post? Smiley

I got the Sapphire 5830 running at stock voltage, 1000mhz core and 330mhz memory putting out 305Mh/s.  My 5850, also Sapphire, is putting out 355Mh/s overclocked at 910mhz core and 330mhz memory at 1.25v. 
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