Topic: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) (Read 5909 times)

Unfortunately this can not generally be proven until after death (by examining brain tissue). You kind of have to take their word for it. Your clear-cut criteria also ignores inter-sex people.

If you're born with guy parts you're a guy if you're born with lady parts you are a lady...


until proven otherwise.

I don't get where the removal of free will comes in. Even assuming your premise is true, how does training men remove the free will of women? Do you even think about this stuff before you speak, or are you just repeating what you've been told to believe?

Women don't like farms.
They like cities where they can go to the mall and go to da club where they can get hammered #yolo

Not "a man." Generations upon generations of men- all trained by other men to think of women as things.

Wow I didn't know a man had to do was tell a woman to do something, and she has no other choice but to comply. Our evil powers have no limits.

I ask you in all seriousness. Who built cities? Women? No. Men built cities, and gave their wives no choice but to raise their kids. They did this personally and through establishing cultural norms.

The lack of community isn't because of men.
Its because you probably live in a city.
Cities have too many people to be communities.
Also communities are more boring and filled with rules.

I have two pairs of shoes and they were both gifts.
YOU can start by not continuing demeaning stereotypes.

Communities are matrileneal by default assuming there aren't any "I own you and your children"- type Men around.
Think about it. When someone is born, the mother is known. The father isn't necessarily known. Patrilenality is rather inefficient and unnatural- just think of the trouble with surnames.

Marriage without children is still marriage. It was invented for men to gain exclusive possession over women, and (admit it) is still used for the same purpose, despite whatever fluff has grown around it.

No its an agreement between partners to raise children mostly. Also enjoy your cats for companions after you get older.
Since when have communities been matrileneal?
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a dismantling of consumer culture and the objectification it fosters
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Fine you can start by not having 20 pairs of shoes.

Marriage is and has always been a semi-consensual for of sexual and social slavery. Love, cherish and Obey? Polygamy as referenced is simply a way for one man to have multiple wife-slaves. This isn't acceptable, and will not continue uncritiqued.

The only cure for feminist concerns is the abolition of the state and the masculine supremacist structures that prop it up- commodification of the feminine, the idea of owning (to whatever extreme) a person, and the end of denial on the part of men that men, in fact constitute the vast, vast, vast majority of rapists and abusers. Is it not true that children assigned an "M" on their birth certificate at birth too often get trained by virtually everyone they come accross to hurt women, and people in general? Is this not true? Am I missing something here? I strongly doubt it.
A return to community-centered matrileneal family structures, a dismantling of consumer culture and the objectification it fosters, and most urgently and abrupt end to this reactionary and apologist "I'm calling misandry" foolishness men have recently started howling about in response to being called out must happen first here and there with us in this thread and them who we affect and next everywhere from all angles.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that misogyny and misandry are not social equals, either in frequency of occurrence and  severity of consequences to those it affects.

I don't think that at all.
There is roughly a 50/50 ratio of men and women.
With polygamy someone is getting the short end of the stick, unless its a war mongering society in which men die more often.
What we should is defend regular marriage.
Which is hard because apparently neither side seems to like it a whole lot.

Feminism began slowly as polygamy was prohibited.
Many womans have a different thinking than mans and can be understood only by other womans.
In countries where polygamy is official this can be solved and they feel themselves well if they are other womans also in the family.
In countries where they was robbed from the right to live together with other womans in a marriage with a single man it caused frustration and hate in their heart against the society and they search only the company of other womans.
For me there is no need personally for polygamy but the society needs this as balance and cure against feminism.
Fact is that where is polygamy there is no feminism(especially there is no radical feminism).
So if they would receive back this traditional right to live in polygamy they would cool down surely.

I'm not begging authority. Nobody worth listening to is doing so, either. I'm making men aware of the fact that they've been carefully trained to hate and use women.
Any author who is a member of an oppressed class can firstly rethink the meaning of success, and secondly thank those who came before her.
In the total absence of the core ideas of feminism, no feminine voice could ever amount to more than that which is possessed by a husband or father.
One reason that Feminism and Anarchism fit together is that feminism has been more of a social call than a political one.

Equality is for numbers. We're talking about classes of people, not numbers. The original feminists and feminists since have not put their ultimate goal up to be equality. Equality is erasure- a meaningless placeholder for a goal. This misunderstanding is harmful. The purpose of feminism is to make women's issues- numerous as they are- relevant to all discussions of liberation and justice. While the right to vote is ultimately in vain, pandering to state control, the conception that women are people at all was a radical notion that could have only reached mainstream acceptance after popular legislation regarding voting passed within that social-historical context.
No golf handicap- just understanding of the unique and complex position women are in. No free pass- just a revocation of (see earlier clarification of the term "man") men's free pass on women's bodies and minds.

Men get raped, and women can do it. It's missing the point however to make rules based on exceptions. To focus on this is to lose focus on the worldwide (including the first world) nature of rape, which is men raping women.
Misandry is a cop out word with no real meaning when considering currents of sociological practice.
Whether you're in the middle east or not, women are at a disadvantage- often being seen as your most american of consumer goods and nothing more, whether subconsciously or explicitly.
Child custody hearing statistics are irrelevent when you consider that men often feel that children are women's problem. I say good riddance to fathers.

In what ethical reality would anyone punch anyone with impunity? How is this a rubric fro equality? Why is equality even valuable?

because no woman has ever raped a man right?

i had an asshole female boss once. i assumed she was feminist because she was always nice to the female employees. that didn't make me hate all females though.

i believe many feminists nowadays are just misandrysts (man haters) and it really undermines the feminist movement.  i believe if a woman is for equality, then feminism is not necessary. if a guy is an asshole to you, don't pigeonhole all men as misogynists, because theres assholes in both sexes.

i know in some countries such as in the middle east, women are still very oppressed, and feminism is needed in those places. but in america, for a feminist 
to say that "its a mans world" feels insulting. example: americas family courts are totally biased in the woman's favor as the mother usually gets custody or most custody of a child.
women also are able to get away with a lot more; maybe sweet talk their way out of a speeding ticket, etc.  Guys- when was the last time a woman bought you a beer at the bar?

i dont condone violence, but if women want to be treated the same as men, does that mean a man can get into a fist fight with a woman without impunity?

The only cure against radical feminism is polygamy.


http://www.votepolygamy.com/

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