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legendary
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June 15, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
maximum pain theory in action
I have been predicting this since it was clear that Bitcoinica had no database backups. It took quite a a while, but it was destined to happen.

well that was a nobrainer.

The only way to end this without a court battle is to liquidate short positions at 5$ and liquidate long position at 6$ (or whatever the market price is at the time of liquidation or announcement of liquidation). Anything else and half of your customers are going to sue you and for a good reason.

...

Now just look how some big party desire to have the price to return to 5$ to avoid legal problems will effectively ensure that Bitcoin will never ever see 5$ handle again.

Damn markets have this ugly habit of inflicting maximum possible damage. It will now probably rally just to make the matters even worse.

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lol!  good one.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
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June 15, 2012, 02:07:59 PM
maximum pain theory in action
I have been predicting this since it was clear that Bitcoinica had no database backups. It took quite a a while, but it was destined to happen.

well that was a nobrainer.

The only way to end this without a court battle is to liquidate short positions at 5$ and liquidate long position at 6$ (or whatever the market price is at the time of liquidation or announcement of liquidation). Anything else and half of your customers are going to sue you and for a good reason.

...

Now just look how some big party desire to have the price to return to 5$ to avoid legal problems will effectively ensure that Bitcoin will never ever see 5$ handle again.

Damn markets have this ugly habit of inflicting maximum possible damage. It will now probably rally just to make the matters even worse.

...



And here is another interesting question. With that lending bubble going on GLBSE, how all those who borrowed from Pirate and Ko are going to repay BTC denominated loans? Watch for mass BTC denominated loan defaults that will only further fuel the exchange rate up.




N12
donator
Activity: 1610
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June 15, 2012, 02:04:44 PM
maximum pain theory in action
I have been predicting this since it was clear that Bitcoinica had no database backups. It took quite a a while, but it was destined to happen.

Edit: wow, look at my post count. Grin
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
June 15, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
holy christ
hero member
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June 15, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
maximum pain theory in action
N12
donator
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June 15, 2012, 01:59:06 PM
Poor Bitcoinica. Wink
hero member
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June 15, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
I'm waiting in anticipation for whatever is going to happen  Tongue

popcorn on the house
full member
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June 15, 2012, 01:55:15 PM
The economy isn't broken. It doesn't need "fixing". This is exactly its intended condition. Money isn't real. Interest and debt are not real. Our whole economy has been set up to steal.

An 'economy' isn't a thing-in-itself. For example, what dark forces are in control of the gold standard, a standard that's never ''fixed''? Well, the same old money lenders. Like the guy in the youtube vid Money Masters says, the Rothschilds. And the market cap of something like bitcoin being so low, it'll very easily have most of its capital in few hands, which begs the question, why not 51%. Over time, as these few hands lend money on interest, the money will be in fewer hands.
full member
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June 15, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
I'm waiting in anticipation for whatever is going to happen  Tongue
legendary
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June 15, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
And it's gone.

legendary
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June 15, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.

EDIT: HOLLY SHIT BATMAN WALL just appeared at $5.7 of 40k BTC

holy motherfucking shit, y'all! that's really sumth'n.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but either way I think 40k BTC is something amazing to witness appear.
donator
Activity: 2772
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June 15, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.

EDIT: HOLLY SHIT BATMAN WALL just appeared at $5.7 of 40k BTC

holy motherfucking shit, y'all! that's really sumth'n.
donator
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June 15, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.

It's pretty easy to write your own "dark-pool" order bot though, and I wouldn't be surprised if large buyers/sellers were doing that.
legendary
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June 15, 2012, 12:06:20 PM
I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.

EDIT: HOLLY SHIT BATMAN WALL just appeared at $5.7 of 40k BTC  Shocked
legendary
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June 15, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
BTW does mtgox still allow dark orders?
No. That feature was removed a long time ago. After the hack, pretty much.
legendary
Activity: 1078
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June 15, 2012, 11:50:00 AM
Ok the $7 order for 3,6k BTC is 2min old, meaning it will probably get moved once again..

3k BTC at $6.9 16hours, also probably will get moved

Actually most of them are fresh, and probably very dynamic.


BTW does mtgox still allow dark orders?
legendary
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June 15, 2012, 11:48:47 AM
Wait, I have a wage recollection of seeing somewhere the age of these orders.. is there such a site offering this stat?

btccharts.com shows it when you hover over the walls.
legendary
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June 15, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
Wait, I have a wage recollection of seeing somewhere the age of these orders.. is there such a site offering this stat?

EDIT: Loool I'm stupid, of course there is, it's what I'm looking at right now: http://btccharts.com/#m=mtgox-BTC-USD

If you move your mouse over either line you can see the age of orders.
donator
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June 15, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
Look at http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html there's only any real depth between $6.88 and $7.

I'm not sure how indicative the already-placed orders are regarding orders that will be placed on the way up. Only a fraction of people put orders that far away from the current price. It's more like they decide ad-hoc to "sell now" or whatever the decision is.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 11:45:23 AM
Look at http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html there's only any real depth between $6.88 and $7.

Which is exactly why it won't move up too much.  Buyers want volume close to their buy in price.  Slippage the enemy of the small cap investor.
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