Topic: Rambotic - need opinion from community (Read 886 times)

Ok, well personal insults aside... In my opinion, you don't seem to be able to back up your claims.

I can see now, that after several attempts, this is going around in circles and there is no point asking you for any further evidence to substantiate the claims you are making... as you'll just call me ignorant, accuse me of not reading and then make the same claims again and still not provide any evidence to support them.

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To anyone else following this thread, this is my summary of findings:

- Rambotnic claims he had a more detailed plan involving tricking scammers into revealing detail and/or using escrow
- Rambotnic claims "Gino" had "lack of interest" in paying him 0.1 btc for his services
- Rambotnic has provided no demonstrable proof of any "lack of interest" on behalf of "Gino".
- Chatlogs actually show "Gino" stated that he was willing to pay Rambotnic for help on three separate occasions (and up to as much as 3 BTC for said services).
- Rambotnic told "Gino" he should talk to the "scammers" and offer to pay BTC to unlock account (but less than 5 BTC wanted)
- Gino said he wouldn't pay the "scammers" any more money
- Rambotnic never told "Gino" of his detailed plan of tricking scammers into revealing details or using Escrow.


NOTE: I make no judgement on the intentions of either Rambotnic or "Gino". I'm just stating facts based on the evidence provided.

Seems like you are another blind ignorant.
Alright, i will repeat myself.
I didn't tell him the full plan because our conversation didn't continue because of lack interest of him.
I bet 10$ there is something wrong with this guy and the way he say the things are not as they are.
Otherwise he would accept my offer which will cost him no time and money if i don't do anything.
Waiting for another ignorant who can't read to ask me the same questions.
Ignorance and not accepting something that will cost you nothing is enough evidence.
I am not here to protect myself.
I don't have to because i did nothing wrong.
The whole DT mafia will end soon or later
Because they don't accept way of doing service which will not harm anyone doesn't mean it is something bad.
Period.

All you keep stating is in direct opposition to what the chat logs show. You assert that "you didn't tell him the full plan because he wouldn't pay for your services". The chatlogs indicate that this assertion is false.

Do you have any evidence that suggests he did not want to pay you?

Im not avoiding your question, your question already had answer to different person.
His ignorance and less interest of getting my services to pay me after success is enough proof.

I've read this entire thread. I even double checked to make sure I hadn't missed anything. You're avoiding answering my question, which makes me think you don't have an answer to it.

You make multiple claims that he didn't want to pay... when the chatlogs clearly show he said he would... do you deny this?

If so, do you have any further chatlogs that show he changed his mind and would not pay?

Your question already have answer.
Feel free to scroll and read.
If the OP censorship and deleted my post feel free to read here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-abuse-and-lies-from-dt-members-5105765

I am reading.

My eyes are very much open... That is why I do not accuse, but I ask questions. So, can you please answer my question above?

The word "all" could have been a very poor choice of words , i'd let it pass and ask for "some". tho it won't make much difference .

Not scammers. All casinos. Show us examples of each and every casino doing this.


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Examples of how scammers coming back to milk for more?
Come in the next section in trading discussion, you will find pages of examples.

Thanks for wall of text  
You are avoiding question which is very important for conversation between you and "victim". So, lets get back to it:



Examples, please.

Why it should be gambling site? I consider scammers as scammers, no matter they are site, platform, persons.
All of them coming to milk more. You can call it bribe, mlk, scam more, or whatever suits you.
Blatant lie? Why you denying something you don't have enough brain to understand or use as strategy?
You calling the most old police tactic to defraud fraudsters and scammers a lie?
I really suggest you using google, its free and educating.
You will realize how most of the nigerian scammers were caught so far.
Trick people to believe i am lawyer? I don't need to trick anyone, in the end im getting paid only after complete job and only after he wants, i cannot force him even after i successfully complete the "job".
But yeah, i know how scammers operate so i could easy trick them to share information.
I sound like one ? Point me a single person lied or scammed by me.
I can't stop laugh at your bullshit
Every single person who deal with me here were suggested in first place to use escrow, in 99.99% of the cases even i cover the escrow fees.
If i wanted to scam people, i will simply open threads like every single scammer in the digital goods section with locked thread and autobuy link and never use escrow.
Do not judge people if you don't have enough IQ to understand what they are doing.
Speaking or writing better in English doesn't make you smarter than others and we both know it.

Which gambling site asked for bribe? Provide few examples.

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This is blatant lie. Stop twisting things.
You can't. You can trick people to believe you that you are lawyer, but if you are not lawyer - you are not lawyer.
Actually, this is not correct. You sound exactly like one.

Yet another guy who don't even care to read but repeat old stuff...
The idea of the "victim" was to confirm he would pay, not to do it.
He were so "interested" to take his 38btc back just for 0.1btc help, he didn't even wanted to continue the conversation and understand the strategy.
How the fuck i would know will they turn back the account, and even if they don't, then what profit this would bring me? It will waste my time obviously.
You understand nothing, why you trying to with closed eyes and ignorance?

@Rambotnic,

Putting aside the whole "if I help, you pay me 0.1 BTC" thing for a moment, I still don't follow your "You need to pay a bribe to get back money that has already been stolen" logic.

Let us assume that is a scam, and is withholding 38 BTC of a players money... They have FULL control over this money, it is effectively already theirs. So, that being the case, why on earth would they suddenly give it back if you give them another 5 BTC? If you do that, then they'll have 43 BTC of your money and what do you have? The word of "extortionists" that they'll unlock your account?

Apparently Gino understands this... "But I am not a retard to send them more coins"... I don't understand why you don't?

At best, your efforts with this user amounted to REALLY bad advice.
At worst, it could be perceived that you were actively encouraging the user to pay even more money to scammers.

I would hope that your intentions were genuine... and that you sincerely thought you were helping... but sometimes the best thing you can do to help, is stay out of the way.

You are liar, trust abuser and a scammer.
I can be lawyer if i want, this is internet.  And especially when there is no way of me harming the people i am trying to help, i can be anything i want to.
You are trust abusing scumbag and liar calling me scammer.
Taking advantage of someone who was in process of getting scammed?
You are blatant retard who don't understand simple tactic which the police using since 200 years to catch fraudsters and scammers.
You need a reality check because you are virtual moron who actually doing nothing for the people on this forum but only circle of people.
You lying, abusing and spreading lies, you are the very worst person on this forum right after TMAN and owlcatz.
Not in last place, you courage people to buy accounts on this forum by ruining their legal way of making money.
We need less people like you on this forum but sadly someone let you in the DT.
But don't worry, things will never be the same, life is circle.
Someday karma will come after you, and your lies and abuse will hit you worse than you did to everyone around.

You're not a lawyer or a victim--you're a parasitic, opportunistic scumbag and have been appropriately tagged.  As for the bolded part, I have no clue what you're talking about.  You tried to take advantage of someone who was in the process of getting scammed and somehow I'm the bad guy in all of this.  You need a reality check.

Sorry, i never sounded like scammer.
I might sound like a person who wanted to earn money from the situation, but not as scammer
TP, you are liar and abuser. You called me scammer for no reason which is blatant lie.
You tagging me because i wanted to make money of someone from situation like any lawyer won't make the same.
You letting people selling illegal stuff on this forum because the forum rules allowing it but not letting someone to earn money honestly.
I am not here to defend myself because i never did anything wrong, i am here to explain people who don't understand why i wanted to earn 0.1btc.
Also now i am facing the DT abuse from everywhere

With your attitude and actions, you guys making the legit and normal people to start using the forum like those people who violate rules but no one touching them.

That's because


And to anyone who questions my tag on Rambotnic, it's not for suspicion of him being in on the scam; it's for the part I've bolded.  It's pretty clear to me that he's still manufacturing excuses as to why he did what he did, trying to sound plausible--and when that fails, he goes on the attack or plays the victim card.  That's all I have to say about this for now.  I'd love to see others chime in on this, DT or not.

It's impossible to follow the thread when you're making such a mess of it, not to mention that the stuff you're saying here seems to be very different from what you told ginalli on telegram.

It doesn't make any sense that you had this great plan to expose the scammers and never mentioned it to ginalli. You should have started with that - "hey, let's try to string these scammers along". Instead you made yourself sound like a scammer. The more you post here the less I believe you and it wasn't a lot to begin with.