Rank positions on CMC changes every bull market? - page 5.

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Quote from: Adbitco on January 04, 2023, 01:36:35 PM

I'm actually looking at matic, doge and Solana and if time not taking we might find BNB as well but due to they are global leading exchange would likely remain. For instance, in the past few years i have been closely watching over NEO and EOS these two coin where the best of all time and i think have also been among of the 20 top altcoin but after which i can't find them in the top anymore and i don't think there is something productive about them, i barely see anyone posting about those project or even a thread talking about these coin. Although EOS managed to remain among the top 40 altcoin while NEO slide down to rank 70.
This is to say not all altcoin usually maintained their position as time goes.

NEO and EOS were at the top of the hype in 2017-2018, at that time, in terms of the level of hype, they were about the same as Polygon or something similar now. Even here on the forum there were heated discussions about these projects. Then something went wrong and they started losing investors and support fast. EOS was with the claim that it would take Ethereum's place. The project was extremely ambitious, but the plans weren't destined to come to fruition.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

Oh yes. If ever the bull market arrived, There's a high chance that a new trend will come along with that and the token that is align with that trend will surely climb the top20 of the CMC positions. These coins mentioned isn't that much relevant last 2018 bear market and they replaced old coins. I believe that projects are being better and better along the time and those who are on the top spots who aren't producing well on their product will surely be replaced from their current spot. A bull market is so powerful that the marketcap of each token grows so much especially those projects who are align with the trend since they get much traffic because investor can get much bigger profit from them.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

I feel that Doge and Shib coin has Very high that these will fail to retain their places because these are memes coins and any time it can be collapsed like Luna. Solona was also so weak but now sudden meme coin trend on Solona network work for Solona coin also and now it's volume once again looking so good.
BTC, Eth,Bnb,usdt,Usdc,ltc will be retain theirs places in my view because these tokens has very large number of Holder and high transaction after every second. Still there is high competition and bull season will disclose the right order of top 20 coins.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 04, 2023, 08:28:54 PM

If you can go back with time, there are a lot of altcoins that are only temporary and they are only driven by hype every time there's a bull market happening. This list is the newest altcoins that pop.
During a bull market, it's possible that new projects could rise in popularity and overtake the positions of current top 20 projects.
It's already proven, only Ethereum since the beginning is always on the top, that's the only altcoin I can trust right now.

New projects could, but the old ones are there too. For example bnb and eth survived 2 huge ones, and we could even say ETH survived a third one technically speaking. Which means that there is a choice for you, will you go out and search for the one that will go into top 20, or will you pick one that is in top 20 already and stay in top 20?

The question is easy to answer for me, I rather pick something in top 20 right now and keep going with that, and if I can do that then it won't cause me any headache. Trying to find one that will be created and then go into top 20 will be hard to find between thousands that are created, and I will most likely fail so why do that at all?

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 04, 2023, 08:28:54 PM

If you can go back with time, there are a lot of altcoins that are only temporary and they are only driven by hype every time there's a bull market happening. This list is the newest altcoins that pop.
During a bull market, it's possible that new projects could rise in popularity and overtake the positions of current top 20 projects.
It's already proven, only Ethereum since the beginning is always on the top, that's the only altcoin I can trust right now.

Yes Ethereum is an altcoin without a doubt and certainly much more stable,
those are things that usually happen when the market is bullish so we have to be careful,
apart from Ethereum coins like BNB are also trustworthy coins

Having trustworthy projects like eth and bnb would make sure that not only you will go up, but you will go up more than bitcoin probably. Not by a lot of course, but in a world where bitcoin goes up x5, eth could go up x6 and bnb could go up x7 which is not a huge difference, but it's still not a bad one at all.

It's also smart to diversify your portfolio, that way you would make a good profit while also protecting your portfolio in case anything happens to just one of them. Not likely that it would be any big trouble for these big three, but if you could also spend a little bit on other small stuff, just like %10 or so, that would be protecting you at least.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

The position is not permanent for any particular project as you said, it is a bear market and some of the top projects are going through the same pressure as any other project in cmc. So it is very likely that some of them will not retain their current position except the market reverse and the projects maintain their market capitalization.

except bitcoin others any crypto coins ranks change, but nothing impossible in crypto,
but btc will keep number one position for long time i hope,
and top 5 crypto position is very strong if considering their individual market, so top 5 position will not be changed even in this bearing market.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 04, 2023, 08:28:54 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

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There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

I agree with this. If you can go back with time, there are a lot of altcoins that are only temporary and they are only driven by hype every time there's a bull market happening. This list is the newest altcoins that pop.
During a bull market, it's possible that new projects could rise in popularity and overtake the positions of current top 20 projects.
It's already proven, only Ethereum since the beginning is always on the top, that's the only altcoin I can trust right now.

Yes Ethereum is an altcoin without a doubt and certainly much more stable,
those are things that usually happen when the market is bullish so we have to be careful,
apart from Ethereum coins like BNB are also trustworthy coins

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Quote from: crwth on January 04, 2023, 06:49:22 PM

A lot of things can happen within the market and it’s really hard to predict what could change within the top cryptocurrencies. Maybe you can try to filter it with a certain factor like volume or market cap and then maybe you can decide what you think is going to boom and what’s going to fail.

Having your own basis before investing is a good idea before investing because its really hard to know which one will not be part of the top 20 anymore. The whole market is unpredictable and only time can tell, even if we tell that other projects might go down on its position, it can still be changed. The CMC list is moving everyday, and even on bear market repositioning can happen as well.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

That's always going to happen during a bull market and there's going to be a shift in the ranking of coins in the market, because we often see that during a bull market investors will put their money into the coins pumping higher, so I think only coins that can capitalize on this momentum well are will shift the positions of other coins but we can't predict which coins will be out of top 20 in the next bull market but if the coins you mention can't capitalize on the bull market momentum well then there is a chance they will drop out of the ranking.

There is this logic where you are going to be forced to think of it like something that is "fighting" or competing or whatever else you want to name it similar to that. Because the market is filled with coins who are trying to be as high as possible, and there are also situations that hurt some of the projects as well.

This means that some of them will get better by working hard and doing some great things while others will go down because they face some troubles. This causes the ranks to change, not just at the top but everywhere and that is why a coin you get could go up high or could go down and you need to be careful about which one you pick.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

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There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

I agree with this. If you can go back with time, there are a lot of altcoins that are only temporary and they are only driven by hype every time there's a bull market happening. This list is the newest altcoins that pop.
During a bull market, it's possible that new projects could rise in popularity and overtake the positions of current top 20 projects.
It's already proven, only Ethereum since the beginning is always on the top, that's the only altcoin I can trust right now.

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A lot of things can happen within the market and it’s really hard to predict what could change within the top cryptocurrencies. Maybe you can try to filter it with a certain factor like volume or market cap and then maybe you can decide what you think is going to boom and what’s going to fail.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 03, 2023, 11:08:47 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

Easily and probably will. There is no way the top 20 stays the same. There will be a new fad and new coins get mega pumped just like in every other cycle. One thing is almost certain though, bitcoin will end up in first just like it always has. That's why altcoins aren't meant for bag holding.

some altcoins are meant for bag holding though like eth that has retained its position across many cycle of bullruns and bearish including BNB I guess, but the other coins not so much, doesn't mean they are bad for investments in general, if you find alts that have potential and still relatively low in value it could be good for bagholding, so basically when it comes to alts the moment you make your investments is essential.
otherwise if you don't want to make analyse and just outright want to make some investments it's always advised to invest in btc taking big share of your investments and then put the rest in alts for diversification.

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Quote from: bounceback on January 04, 2023, 03:15:21 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

That's always going to happen during a bull market and there's going to be a shift in the ranking of coins in the market, because we often see that during a bull market investors will put their money into the coins pumping higher, so I think only coins that can capitalize on this momentum well are will shift the positions of other coins but we can't predict which coins will be out of top 20 in the next bull market but if the coins you mention can't capitalize on the bull market momentum well then there is a chance they will drop out of the ranking.

There's always a shift or something these things to be typical on where old projects been replaced by new ones, if we do consider that recognition does changed up overtime then there's always a probability
that they would really be having be replaced by newer projects which it not something new.If you do really have that plans on sticking with the recent top ranking coins then you should
consider out these probabilities and chances. We've seen out the comparison and we arent that dumb not to notice out those differences which is something
very that visible.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 03, 2023, 11:08:47 PM

Easily and probably will. There is no way the top 20 stays the same. There will be a new fad and new coins get mega pumped just like in every other cycle. One thing is almost certain though, bitcoin will end up in first just like it always has. That's why altcoins aren't meant for bag holding.

Definitely. It always changes, but not for Bitcoin.
We call Bitcoin the king of crypto coins, the king should be in the 1st place. Cheesy

Quote from: bounceback on January 04, 2023, 03:15:21 AM

I think only coins that can capitalize on this momentum well are will shift the positions of other coins but we can't predict which coins will be out of top 20 in the next bull market but if the coins you mention can't capitalize on the bull market momentum well then there is a chance they will drop out of the ranking.

We can't predict which coins to drop out and which coins to rise up to the top 20, but we can analyze it based on the current development of the coins. Those coins which have bad issues and lose the interest from investors, may drop out from top 20 in the next bullrun season. And which coins that seem to be hyped in the next year, may rise up to the top 20 coins.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

For the fact that, any project that is operating in the top 20 on coin market capitalization will build an enabling ecosystem that will not allow them to miss out of the bull run unless those projects that already have a pre planned dump mechanism. Top 20 ranking is mostly dominated by coins with sustainable ecosystem but that does not eliminate the chances of dump, Luna coin did is and Solana is doing same right now.

I believe that building an ecosystem is not that easy, which means it is going to take a long time before we could see them do it. Top 20 is also a lot bigger than we could imagine for such a thing, it just doesn't make sense to make it that way.

I believe that the best thing to do would be just focusing on how we could do much more with so little and hope it works. Top 20 means it is already a giant and worths millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars even, for some even hundreds, and for a few billions! So in order to be there, you have to be great at what you do, doesn't have to be ecosystem but whatever it is, it has to be great for sure.

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I'm actually looking at matic, doge and Solana and if time not taking we might find BNB as well but due to they are global leading exchange would likely remain. For instance, in the past few years i have been closely watching over NEO and EOS these two coin where the best of all time and i think have also been among of the 20 top altcoin but after which i can't find them in the top anymore and i don't think there is something productive about them, i barely see anyone posting about those project or even a thread talking about these coin. Although EOS managed to remain among the top 40 altcoin while NEO slide down to rank 70.
This is to say not all altcoin usually maintained their position as time goes.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

That's always going to happen during a bull market and there's going to be a shift in the ranking of coins in the market, because we often see that during a bull market investors will put their money into the coins pumping higher, so I think only coins that can capitalize on this momentum well are will shift the positions of other coins but we can't predict which coins will be out of top 20 in the next bull market but if the coins you mention can't capitalize on the bull market momentum well then there is a chance they will drop out of the ranking.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

Easily and probably will. There is no way the top 20 stays the same. There will be a new fad and new coins get mega pumped just like in every other cycle. One thing is almost certain though, bitcoin will end up in first just like it always has. That's why altcoins aren't meant for bag holding.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 20, 2022, 01:07:46 PM

What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

Lol look at those new project that you are calling to be changing the market , are they successfull in long term? or just for short term?
I may trust new project but for short term only and not for Holding , I have seen them growing and falling so my trust will remain for long time running coins like Bitcoin and of course Ethereum and Binance , also considering Ripple even there are lot of problem facing.

Probably they only climb up the ranks because of hypes but once it dies down, their ranks can also fall again and the old top crypto can go back on their previous positions but there are top coins too who can go bad or can turn into a scam same with luna where they can lose their positions permanently.

and isn't the work of some manipulator and whales? to push those coins and suddenly dumped after a while?

I am not sure but sometimes this comes to my mind as it has been in the market for years now.

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Coins that are above them are now going to move in their position. New coins that are sincere (non hyped) may take some time to climb the top ranks but it's worth it because they can sustain their positions. I think cmc ranking can change at anytime depending on the coins performance, and doesn't only change right after every bull run.

sincerity of the project is depend on the support of the community , there are several good project that i use to know but dies now or stagnant because of lack from support of the market and investors .

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Quote from: el kaka22 on December 30, 2022, 02:48:12 PM

I always trust bitcoin, ethereum and bnb to retain their top 20 positions for sure, guaranteed (and if you want to consider stable ones then them too) but all others are open hunting season. Anything from avax to doge to litecoin, anything there could go out of top 20 for sure and there is no reason why it shouldn't or couldn't go out.

It's going to be a tough period for people to live in this fear empire where we do not know if it will go down or not, but we have to just realize that it's not that easy to keep something at top 20, it requires constant hype and interest towards it and if there is nothing exciting then the community will stop caring about it and buying more of it.

From the top 20, sooner or later, all PoW cryptocurrencies will leave, except Bitcoin. This has been going on for quite some time. If you remember 2013, then the top 20 consisted of only PoW coins, but now the trend has changed and all large projects choose PoS model or switch to it.

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