It may help grow usage of bitcoin but I don't it is good publicity.
Imagine you are the one that their pc gets locked. And you paid those btcs.
You wouldn't ever want to hear bitcoin word in future.
Topic: Ransomware, the best thing that has happened to Bitcoin (Read 2963 times)
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
Correct. Agree completely. Windows is a very good system. Has about 30 years of life and development. Cannot be wrong something with this life and with an army of developers, programmers and various staff (making hundred of kind developments connected with it) who work continuously to improve it. There are update every month and new versions every about 5-6 years. I think that cannot be another os better than it. The only reason of its problems is that is very spread in all the world and is target of everyone who want to see the value of itself.
Seems without meaning to be a company and to not have money to upgrade your computers. First of all, if don't have the needed funds that mean that they can use the windows which have. Microsoft offer update (protection) for the previous versions even after to many years after the launch in the market of the new versions. Second, Seems to strange for me that a company have not founds to make upgrade for its computers. The amounts needed are not to much according to me if we are talking for a company. If a person is able to make the upgrade of its computer the company must be ten times more able. Because is in the market to make profit. The person not.
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
Correct. Agree completely. Windows is a very good system. Has about 30 years of life and development. Cannot be wrong something with this life and with an army of developers, programmers and various staff (making hundred of kind developments connected with it) who work continuously to improve it. There are update every month and new versions every about 5-6 years. I think that cannot be another os better than it. The only reason of its problems is that is very spread in all the world and is target of everyone who want to see the value of itself.
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
Correct. Agree completely. Windows is a very good system. Has about 30 years of life and development. Cannot be wrong something with this life and with an army of developers, programmers and various staff (making hundred of kind developments connected with it) who work continuously to improve it. There are update every month and new versions every about 5-6 years. I think that cannot be another os better than it. The only reason of its problems is that is very spread in all the world and is target of everyone who want to see the value of itself.
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well, I heard that linux is pretty safe but in my country not many people are using it because people find it strange to use it Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Well personally, i never use linux in my whole life before so i don't know how it works
Malicious actions and harming of other people in any possible way is never the answer. Ransomware is just a kind of computer virus which benefits from new technology.
It is not ok, good or beneficial to bitcoin. Quite opposite. If something like that ever happened to me I would hate bitcoin with passion for the rest of my life.
It is not ok, good or beneficial to bitcoin. Quite opposite. If something like that ever happened to me I would hate bitcoin with passion for the rest of my life.
So what is ransomware?
(I shouldn't have to google it since you brought it up and want to discuss it.)
(I shouldn't have to google it since you brought it up and want to discuss it.)
It is real simple. You start with a virus, that virus locked and encrypts the entire computer giving access to nothing but a windows stating to send X BTC to an address to get back into the computer.
Ok, thanks!
The OP's comments are a tad confusing still. He/she implies that the rise of bitcoin price and adoption is due to ransomware existing...which obviously wouldn't be true.
BUT, there is an app that allows you to pay your ransomware taxes! It's called PayPal...I think you can even set up automatic recurring payments!
This is disgusting.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Scammers are scammers, they can be avoided.
But just brutal hackers like this virusing PC's is just horrible.
We need a better operating system, windows is just a pure crap that can be exploited in so many ways.
Ransomware will make people passionately hate bitcoin and forever associate it with crime. OP needs to explain themselves.
Some years ago, I frequently saw spam promoting pyramid schemes, which were heavily involving PayPal, and it was usually advertised with titles such as Make Money On PayPal!.
Before Bitcoin, and probably even now, PayPal and other payment services such as WebMoney, UKash or PaySafeCard, were often associated with cybercrime, for example in the context of selling stolen credit cards.
I also remember that there were somewhat similar scams like CryptoLocker, though less sophisticated, and in the style of "you are infected! you must pay now", which heavily used PayPal and friends.
However, I've never seen any outcries to ban PayPal, UKash or PaySafeCards as consequence of these scams.
While this might be considered as anecdotal evidence, my point is basically:
You're probably exaggerating, because you're "scared" of the possibility someone may think bad about Bitcoin, but I wouldn't be surprised, if a "regular person" (i.e. a non-Bitcoiner) doesn't even create the link "bitcoin == bad, because scam".
The thing is that paypal transaction were overwhelmingly more legit transactions than scammy ones. I think that is not so clear with bitcoin. Bitcoin is simply way too small still. And dark uses are strong.
Ransomware will make people passionately hate bitcoin and forever associate it with crime. OP needs to explain themselves.
This! Bitcoin has a really bad fame already. It surely is a bad thing when the first contact people have with bitcoin is a negative one of that extend.
Here we go, Bitcoin to stratospheric prices and general public adoption due to the need to get their data back.
What we need now is an app that lets people automatically pay their ransomware taxes.
What we need now is an app that lets people automatically pay their ransomware taxes.
Not a good idea. First, the amount used for ransomware is miniscule. It should have no effect on bitcoin price.
And second, the more bitcoins gets pushed into the dark corner, the higher the chance that politicians feel the need to attack bitcoin. Then bitcoin price will crash and that's it.
I think there was something like this 4 months back but it was an antivirus on your computer.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
Exactly and the only people who would want to install that type of software, would be someone who cannot afford the retail commercial anti-virus software. So this kind of
Trojan would effectively target poor people.
The people who cannot even pay for the commercial software, has to fork out money for ransom payments.. to get their precious family pictures... Now OP wants us to promote such nonsense. If someone is talented enough to write software like that, they could channel that same talent to
write the next killer application for Bitcoin.
But alas, people will always be tempted by the darker side of the human condition because it is easier and faster to get what they are after and in this case fast cash.
I think there was something like this 4 months back but it was an antivirus on your computer.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
Exactly and the only people who would want to install that type of software, would be someone who cannot afford the retail commercial anti-virus software. So this kind of
Trojan would effectively target poor people.
The people who cannot even pay for the commercial software, has to fork out money for ransom payments.. to get their precious family pictures... Now OP wants us to promote such nonsense. If someone is talented enough to write software like that, they could channel that same talent to
write the next killer application for Bitcoin.
I think there was something like this 4 months back but it was an antivirus on your computer.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
It was called Hyperantivirus. They claimed to pay you money and btc if you installed and ran their antivirus program. I think it had a timebomb and would hold your computer's data for ransom. It did, infact , have access to your all your files as it was designed as an antivirus. Interesting isn't it. A program designed to protect your computer from what it is actually doing, hijacking your data for ransom.
Ransomware will make people passionately hate bitcoin and forever associate it with crime. OP needs to explain themselves.
I guess OP is trolling right?
Because I can not believe he is really serious that ransomware can be anything good for Bitcoin.
He is I assume because ransomware just spreads hate about bitcoin and even though it is not yet stoppable I am sure it'll get picked up by antiviruses soon, the best things users can do is take backups of their important stuff in the computer, so if any such viruses do enter, you'd only need to wipe the OS clean, restore your backup and start again, no need to pay any ransom.
Ransomware will make people passionately hate bitcoin and forever associate it with crime. OP needs to explain themselves.
Some years ago, I frequently saw spam promoting pyramid schemes, which were heavily involving PayPal, and it was usually advertised with titles such as Make Money On PayPal!.
Before Bitcoin, and probably even now, PayPal and other payment services such as WebMoney, UKash or PaySafeCard, were often associated with cybercrime, for example in the context of selling stolen credit cards.
I also remember that there were somewhat similar scams like CryptoLocker, though less sophisticated, and in the style of "you are infected! you must pay now", which heavily used PayPal and friends.
However, I've never seen any outcries to ban PayPal, UKash or PaySafeCards as consequence of these scams.
While this might be considered as anecdotal evidence, my point is basically:
You're probably exaggerating, because you're "scared" of the possibility someone may think bad about Bitcoin, but I wouldn't be surprised, if a "regular person" (i.e. a non-Bitcoiner) doesn't even create the link "bitcoin == bad, because scam".
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Well that's really bad for these people, they had no other choices.
But kaspersky is offering their free service to scan and decrypt these files.
About the price maybe it can be increased but after these people buy bitcoin they will never get back to use bitcoin.
AFAIK, those were mostly from the cryptolocker and the servers was cracked after a relatively long time. Those who require a document urgently would have no choice but to pay. Those keys were available because of the seizure of the central command server.Well that's really bad for these people, they had no other choices.
But kaspersky is offering their free service to scan and decrypt these files.
About the price maybe it can be increased but after these people buy bitcoin they will never get back to use bitcoin.
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Ransomware will use other electronic payment systems besides Bitcoin and taint their reputations too.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2923532/in-desperation-many-ransomware-victims-plead-with-attackers.html
Bitcoin is anonymous which is optimal for such activities. For those payment processors, they have existed for a relatively long time and governments have regulations for them. It does not taint the reputation of those as much as Bitcoin's, where most governments does not take a stance to regulate it. Ransomware will use other electronic payment systems besides Bitcoin and taint their reputations too.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2923532/in-desperation-many-ransomware-victims-plead-with-attackers.html
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The FireEye researchers discovered and tracked 1,231 Bitcoin addresses used by the TeslaCrypt gang between February and April. TeslaCrypt generates a unique Bitcoin address where the ransom must be paid for every infection, meaning that each of the 1,231 addresses represents one victim.
After analyzing transactions involving those addresses, the FireEye researchers believe that 163 victims, or 13 percent, paid the ransom in Bitcoin. Another 20 victims paid with PayPal My Cash cards.
After analyzing transactions involving those addresses, the FireEye researchers believe that 163 victims, or 13 percent, paid the ransom in Bitcoin. Another 20 victims paid with PayPal My Cash cards.
I don't think it can be considered adoption in any way. It's traumatic for the people who are victims to it, then they have to undergo the utter grind of obtaining coins which is not super straightforward in a lot of places. They won't be coming back for more any time soon.
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