Topic: Rating Place Trust Abuse and attacks - page 2. (Read 808 times)

I know that, and I dont care about his feedback, but he is going to continue abusing trust with same behavior towards other members and business.

He is calling me a troll all the time and I dont think he likes me very much.

Few examples:


Short and simple explanation easy to understand for everyone.
I am done talking with Rat and I put him back on ignore after he didn't reply to any of my questions, and after he admitted that he doesnt know how trust system work.
Because he continues with his abuse towards me and others, and he is not willing to change, I have no other choice but to make proper use of trust system, and I hope he is going to learn something from this.

Hmm... TIL, BPIP flag log is [perhaps] the time a flag become active.

Nonetheless, even if he [hastily, as established and acknowledged by many] created the flag before depositing, I believe out of concern for the community, due to the signs that he encountered so far at that time, wasn't the important point is [as I said on my first post here on this thread] he withdrew it when he realized that his concern is unfounded?

He does not abuse the trust and flag system. Your negative though, does. The trust feedback is meant to be used to warn others about possible risk of scam; monetary lost and all. IIRC, GazetaBitcoin even tries to emphasize this point by referring it as "marketplace trust" whenever the needs arise instead of simple "trust", to indicate that it is meant to be used to help members learning who is trustworthy to be dealt with where money is involved and which member is likely to scam others.

The question for you: do you think that notblox1 has a likeliness to scam someone?

I'll invite you to read LoyceV's guide to trust system, I'll snip to the parts that's relevant to this situation

Thanks for making it easy on me but something doesn't seem right. When he started his thread on May 18th he said please support the flag with a link. I looked at it myself.

Just found this. He created the flag on the 18th, didn't wait 24 hours and hadn't deposited.


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notblox

In a nutshell here's the problem with notblox. He threatens posters with negative feedback. He'll give feedback and then delete it when he gets his way. He's your basic forum bully troll and a pathological liar. His first post isn't close to the truth. Anonbet will most likely end up of shutting the doors. It's fair to warn posters in their ANN thread, but notblox just used a flag on May 18 to bully Anonbet into paying $66 without meeting requirements. No one should be trading money with him.

Most likely he went in for a withdrawal, the system said you need to make one deposit and he created a flag. All for $66.

Now that everything’s out there should I change it to neutral or keep as is? Taking everything down is off the board. It is deserved and is the only negative or neutral trust that I've ever given out. When someone puts up ratings, they put a target on their back. I'm use to criticism from those paid by books so that doesn’t really bother me. This negative trust given isn't retaliatory.

I... specifically snipped-and-quoted notblox1 and crafted my post that way to show the timeline. Specifically. Like... with all intention. They are all there. The post he made stating he deposited happened on 19th May, 02:15 p.m., his flag was logged by BPIP system, created [shown as well on that screenshot] on 21th of May, 01:52 p.m.

you’re familiar with the situation and I respect your opinion so I’ll delete the negative trust if the events occurred as stated. I’ll check the timeline later. As long as the flag went up after deposit, the trust will be down.

I gave that thread a read, and though I have to agree that the flag is a bit premature and perhaps the issue on the thread being referred here can be resolved in a better situation, to answer the question,

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? No, he deposited before making a flag.

Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? No, he waited roughly 47 hours, deposited on 19th May, 02:15:27 p.m. UTC+0 [forum time], his flag was on 21st of May, 01:52:10 p.m.




The other two question, I will leave unanswered as it'll just complicate and escalate things.

IMO, notblox worries, though a bit premature and unnecessary, is not completely baseless. He waited for more than the time stated on their ToS. Combine that with difficulties in captcha, I believe someone else can easily draw the same conclusion.

I think it's worth to mention that not only notblox1 withdraw his flag, he asked the supporters of the flag to withdraw their supports too. I believe this can be seen as a gesture of admitting mistake and fixing things from his side. And from my own experience, it can be a very hard pill to swallow.

Saying this as an abuse of trust system, because he raised a flag and then withdraw it when things got sorted out is, IMO, a tad bit overreacting, given the "abuse" apparently is a misunderstanding that rooted from several strong basis.

With our current conversation on other thread, I am very well aware that what I'll say next can be easily seen as an attempt to attack you, but please be assured that it is not, I treat that topic as separate issue from this one. That said, and to rip off the bandage, your feedback, though, can be considered as an abuse, you leave him a negative feedback for a rather unfounded reason; trust abuse, which sorted as above, and stalking... I don't think we can leave someone a negative feedback for stalking someone else? Can we?

All things above said, do you mind to perhaps deescalate this situation and withdraw your negative?

Most of your posts are childish and untrue so I’m not going to entertain you much longer on this.

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? According to the ToS do you need to make a deposit before requesting a withdraw and do they state withdrawals can take up to 24 hours?

Did you threaten other members with negative trust if they sided with Anonbet?

It seems that you abused the trust system and threatened others to force Anonbet to pay you money that you weren’t entitled thus the definition of untrustworthy.

I suppose there's a case for that. But I wouldn't worry about it as he will never be on DT. I have a billion negative feedbacks and none of them mean anything.

I would love to see what legitimate business I was trying to damage, so please post more information about that here? Was it bitherium, casino_sa_toshi or ethereum-c maybe?

Only one who is trying to create damage for businesses that work for years and have good reputation is you Rat, other members from gambling board can confirm that.

How would you know when you never even used Anonbet website, and I can assume that is the case with all other casinos you fake rated.
For the record I did make a deposit, so you are a liar, and I dont care about $60 unlike you, only reason was to warn other members about shady casino.

Sorry but I dont care about you, it is you who are obsessed with some casinos.
Like I said, I had you on ignore for a very long time, but I did notice you always add fuel in every scam accusation against Sportsbet.
I dont care about your feedback and your word means nothing in bitcointak forum, understand this.

Textbook trust abuse.

This is just one more of his stupid explanation  
He tried to rebrand himself, but Poops Place or Rat Place it is all the same big nothingburger.

His feedback in negative.
That is trust abuse.

This is Rat teaching Anonbet and others how to use Trust system, give negative trust and oppose flags, and today he admitted that he doesnt even know how to use it