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legendary
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The OP must be running out of people to Troll - I'm the latest to have been spammed with their rambling blue highlighted navel gazing.

As to one of your questions concerning icopress contacting me - not since I blocked them quite a while ago when they tried to manipulate the DT rankings.

thisisnotasecretmessagethisisnotasecretmessagethisisnotasecretmessagethisisnota secretmessage
Buddy, is this not what you're talking about by any chance?

Absolutely spot on. Timelord's behavior is usually of two types.

1. Cowardly little girl

When one forum member left me negative feedback because of a personal vendetta, Timelord agreed that this was a clear abuse of feedback. At the same time, he simply replied to me that he did not plan to use the tilde against him because of his feelings about his status (I think it was about the fact that the user would probably make a mutual exclusion and his DT position would become even worse).

2. Infantile behavior

Once upon a time, Timelord left negative feedback to Webtricks (I don’t remember exactly, but it was some kind of absurd reason). This confused me a little... since I knew Webtricks. For this reason, I left him a neutral and positive counter-feedback that accurately underlined the level of reliability of this person.

And what do you think?

A few hours later, Timelord blacklisted me (DM), used a tilde against me, and wrote me a couple more not-so-pleasant phrases. And this despite the fact that at that time we communicated more or less well with him. The irony is that he left the feedback, he soon deleted, but did not deign to admit his mistake.


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legendary
Activity: 3626
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The OP must be running out of people to Troll - I'm the latest to have been spammed with their rambling blue highlighted navel gazing.

As to one of your questions concerning icopress contacting me - not since I blocked them quite a while ago when they tried to manipulate the DT rankings.

thisisnotasecretmessagethisisnotasecretmessagethisisnotasecretmessagethisisnota secretmessage

sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 340
Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
Sometimes users know that it's a waste of time to respond to certain people.  There are some that like to engage in the arguments and those that don't want to argue unless they are arguing a point.

I wouldn't waste my time arguing on deaf ears in most cases.

Yes, I know about that and Jolly only comes to discussions where many members support him, or come to advise someone, without realizing the mistake he made.

I've tried to argue with him several times, but he always avoids it and doesn't want to admit his mistake. Members who don't want to admit their mistakes are the worst, that's what I know

I have tried to argue with him in a healthy way, but he doesn't respond well so I need to use harsher methods and make many people aware that Jolly is too selfish. I acknowledge you and your wise views, you are the best one in this forum
legendary
Activity: 3584
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Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
Sometimes users know that it's a waste of time to respond to certain people.  There are some that like to engage in the arguments and those that don't want to argue unless they are arguing a point.

I wouldn't waste my time arguing on deaf ears in most cases.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 340
Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.

Very funny...  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Do you think the response is important? So you are giving OP advice on how to respond to yahoo62278? Then what do you do? you created a locked thread, you don't dare to argue with me in the thread I created. You always talk nonsense and are an arrogant braggart
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 4420
Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.
People are free to not take a person's advice no matter if the advice is good or bad. I'm ok with it.
legendary
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Well, unfortunately your advice fell on deaf ears and it did not even warrant a response by the OP. That degree of arrogance is precisely what members see on a regular basis and it alienates them. Sometimes you honestly wonder why bother posting with care and consideration with advice when those that you reach out to simply ignore you.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2645
Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
it would be interesting to hear why this member changed his posting habits, if he is in fact the same owner.
From BitcoinGirl.Club to "this" member, interesting 😂

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[...]It's the real life changed for both of us in someway.[...]

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[...]I already told it to [...user name hide out...] that things has changed in irl [I now can face off anyone to bring justice for the forum members and the forum [Bitcoin changed my life so does this community and I owe it to be its voice] you will see users are more careful before talking about/against anyone especially if that is high rank and campaign managers. They fear to lose their income from campaign, reputation of the account, most importantly the benefit of the money side. I don't care much about the money side of benefit of the forum]. I used to make a lot of posts in Gambling and WO but from time I am not regularly finding interest there. Perhaps that's what you all are thinking but it's the same person who likes to talk about Green dildo, likes MicG and homers work, waiting for $100k party, received invitation from Steve and group to join Liverpool's match, became a [...lets not ruin it...] of a girl then decided to change my username [it's been over five years], hardcore fan of Liverpool. What else you want to know to make you think that it's me the same person.[...]

I hope the members who know me closely can now keep this question about "who is the owner of the account" in the side bench, I am the same f**ker who is f**king all these bitches for years LOL 😘

/*edited*/
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
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Wouldn't come here if you did not tag me. I excluded you from my trust list because I don't consider you the same person I had dealings with in the past.
Interesting little observation.
There was some issue with his account some time ago, it was claimed to be hacked or something, and I see a lot of password changes.
He didn't reply anything to your post but it would be interesting to hear why this member changed his posting habits, if he is in fact the same owner.

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Without revealing anything, I can only say that BitcoinGirl.Club contacted me few days ago and asked if I received any message from icopress telling me to distrust him.
He also showed me some half edited and censored screenshots that I never asked to see, so I can't say what really happened.
One thing I know for sure, this forum is full of snitches  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 340
Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
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You'd better worry about why you've turned into a vengeful troll who lies at every turn.
His was a lost cause a long time ago. Do not waste your time engaging with him (and especially not by advising him).

This is the 44th post in this thread but an interesting statistic is that 9 posts in this thread (equates to over 20%) were made by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming puppeteer. Those are very interesting statistics.

I see some similarities between the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll and another account that ended up getting multiple tags therefore ended by giving up on that account. I hope the sooner the other accounts operated by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll are accidentally revealed by him and receive tags as a response, the better.

Lol  Cheesy

Don't you have any good discussion material? you always repeat the same thing. Similarity? Come on, show me where my posts are located that are similar to komisariatku

But I'm sure you can't prove it, and of course this is your 34th bullshit. I challenge you to find my posting habits the same as komisariatku. just prove it, if you can't then you are just a braggart.

If you thought I would abandon my account because I couldn't join the campaign, you were wrong. I will always be here, watching your ridiculous behavior  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3584
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@BitcoinGirl.Club you cannot prove that icopress sent a mass pm to participants and asked them to ~ you, so trying to argue that would be pointless really. I cannot say he did or didn't, have always had pretty fair dealings with icopress.

Everyone has shocked me that is involved by the fact that not one has given a negative, so at least the trust system isn't being abused. As you know, anyone can distrust you for any reason. It's not illegal. Some of your thoughts on the whole situation may or may not be correct, but without concrete proof, you're kinda pissin up a rope. You're free to continue this and see who's mind you can change, but at the moment it would seem you are wasting your breathe. I would consider locking it and revisiting if you come across proof of your feelings.
legendary
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You'd better worry about why you've turned into a vengeful troll who lies at every turn.
His was a lost cause a long time ago. Do not waste your time engaging with him (and especially not by advising him).

This is the 44th post in this thread but an interesting statistic is that 9 posts in this thread (equates to over 20%) were made by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming puppeteer. Those are very interesting statistics.

I see some similarities between the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll and another account that ended up getting multiple tags therefore ended by giving up on that account. I hope the sooner the other accounts operated by the komisariatku/PytagoraZ account farming troll are accidentally revealed by him and receive tags as a response, the better.
legendary
Activity: 2758
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^ You’re reaching.

Who thinks Jambler is less trustworthy because they could be pretending not to be a mixer, while they could actually be, just to avoid a forum ban? That makes no sense to me.

Let’s say: the USA is going after VPNs, we all like them, one suddenly rewords his website to pretend they are not a VPN so they keep working. Suddenly we think the VPN provider is bad? You are acting like a fed.

Scamming? Reputation damage.
(Supposedly) Avoiding a single man’s decision to ban mixers? Don’t care.
legendary
Activity: 2702
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
The wording is such that I can't take it seriously: "Scamming the idea of".... Wait what?! Followed by: "caused Jambler a reputational damage".... Wait a minute? Which one is it? The first one was scamming an idea, but the "idea scammer" got reputation damage and somehow that's a problem? Which one is it?
I think it needs a little clear explanation. Let us consider each feedback individually for each accounts.

First icopress.
Scamming the idea of banning mixer on the forum. The business model explained wrong so that they can continue advertising on the forum without a major advertising competitor.
From January 1st the idea are "Mixers are ban".  But to avoid the ban, the team was giving all their focus to call it a software provider [not a software provider at all though, I noticed somewhere they even changed some texts of their website to make it look like a software provider]. All mixing process were done in their end but because they did not have a front-end under their own domain they were calling the product as not a mixer.

Before https://web.archive.org/web/20230331054656/https://[banned mixer]/
Now

Before https://web.archive.org/web/20230331054656/https://[banned mixer]/


Now


Let's be more close.
Snap on November 15th 2023: https://web.archive.org/web/20231115115459/https://[banned mixer]/ [replace "[banned mixer]" use "JamblerDOTio" DOT=. in the URL]
Theymos posted Mixers will be banned from January 1st.
Snap on December 7th 2023: https://web.archive.org/web/20231207030249/https://[banned mixer]/

On the other hand can we accept it with a guarantee that these front-ends, those they are calling partners are not from the Jambler team itself? Jambler team itself can easily finance the marketing and hosting expense. All it needs to buy a domain, install the PHP code and create a different name to launch front-ends to accept coin under different domain names. The core is always same, pointing to one central database. What confused me a lot that out of 5% plus 0.0007 BTC (network fee), Jambler is taking 3% plus 0.0007 BTC (network fee), the partner was taking even less than 2%. Who in their logical business mind will spend so much money to give majority share to the API provider and is going to keep less for themselves? Visit clickbank, the biggest affiliate network, you will find referral commissions are even 90%, the product provider is taking even less than 10%. It's because overtime from many referrals the product owner eventually make the bigger money than the referrals

By doing all these Jambler team wanted to avoid the rule that was implemented to avoid mixers on the forum. A scam does not always have to be with the cash/digital money. When someone have an idea and someone else stole it then this stealing is also a scam. Jambler stole "Mixers ban" from the forum and continued their marketing in the forum for three more months.
legendary
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I can't speak for the other participants, but in the PM I got from icopress, there was no talk about you in it.

Given that I am also in the campaign managed by icopress, so maybe I can be a part of this drama, I also confirm that I have not received any similar request through PM to exclude someone from the trust list.
What I can confirm is that I received a PM from him earlier, but it was exclusively related to the transfer to another campaign when the previous one (Wasabi) ended. I saw it as taking care of campaigns and participants, which is certainly respectable
Vod
legendary
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Sorry about that. A username change messed up my script, and needed manual attention.

You need to change to UID to identify a user.  Some idiots like Tradefortress used to play around with usernames to break BPIP.
legendary
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I wanted to check latest updated list ----> http://loyce.club/trust/2024-04-27_Sat_05.07h/662330.html  but I get (sorry, that page is missing.) @LoyceV you need to make some updates.
Sorry about that. A username change messed up my script, and needed manual attention. But it's Kingsday here, so we had plans with the kids. I wiped the "damaged" directory to prevent people from linking to it.

A new update is running now, this link should work when it's done: loyce.club/trust/2024-04-27_Sat_16.29h/662330.html.
Update: it's done.

You need to change to UID to identify a user.
That's the thing: theymos' trust data dumps (unlike his Merit data dumps) use usernames.
legendary
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we all value privacy and most of us are against banning mixers, but is the reason for not trusting @BitcoinGirl.Club because he made it clear that @jambler was a mixer? Or did I miss something?

I wanted to check latest updated list ----> http://loyce.club/trust/2024-04-27_Sat_05.07h/662330.html  but I get (sorry, that page is missing.) @LoyceV you need to make some updates.

@BitcoinGirl.Club you need to check the trust list of accounts that distrusted you. If they have a changing distrust list, there is no need to ask them, and if it is them first-timer, it is better to ask them in PM. Depending on their reasons, you can decide to lock topic or not.

Briefly:

 - I still trust @BitcoinGirl.Club, and if there is a reason not to trust him, it is best to list it below so I can remove him.
 - You should not distrust @BitcoinGirl.Club because he made it clear that jambler is a mixer.
 - I still trust @icopress and I do not see that he forced others to distrust @BitcoinGirl.Club.
 - I didn't like the way @icopress explained[1] what happened.

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Friends, the campaign is likely to be suspended soon, for this you can thank Royce, BitcoinGirl.Club and hugeblack, who have been working hard over the past few days to present Jambler as a mixer that provides services to ordinary users .. which is not true.
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
I wouldn't wanna make this look too intrusive but, Bitcoingirl's attitude changed after the major hack recovery
Were you around before and when the hack happened?  Grin

Feels like it was a long time ago. I remember the saga.
hero member
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Goodnight, ohh Leo!!! 🦅
I wouldn't wanna make this look too intrusive but, Bitcoingirl's attitude changed after the major hack recovery. Not in a bad way, but it seems like she became a bit rigorous... ain't gonna lie, sometimes I feel it's not the same person; mind you, you don't have to listen/believe me but that's just my thought.
I wouldn't wanna make this look too intrusive but, Bitcoingirl's attitude changed after the major hack recovery
Were you around before and when the hack happened?  Grin
Feels like it was a long time ago. I remember the saga.
I do alot of reading  Smiley which, is why I know basically all the sagas from the old times.

Edit: Aside the fact that you were a little bit dramatic during the whole mixer ban controversy, I haven't had any direct dealings with you and I don't have to hate you for whatever reasons others are..
Just like I said earlier, I had to dig deep into your history to have a better understanding of who you truly was.
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