Topic: Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud — A Concise Summary of Evidence - page 30. (Read 146793 times)

I've never done it myself, but from what I gather you can call the probation department and ask to talk to a PO handling a particular case.

Vleisides is on probation, not parole. His supervision was transferred from CA to the Western District of Missouri.

What a lame debate. All we have to do is wait six weeks. If they ship it, apologize. If they don't, you can whine and complain and do whatever you guys do.

Request information on the whereabouts of the paroled inmate through the United States Department of Justice. The FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) provides access to the records that you will need, as long as the right information is provided and there are no security reasons preventing their release. Write "Freedom of Information Act Request" on the envelope and provide a reason for the information you are seeking and the details of the paroled inmate

 eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5749812_federal-inmate-parole.html#ixzz27AKtgCRc

If anyone has a stamp lol

Interesting. Does that mean you can just contact the federal probation services, or you can actually call up the probation officer working his case?

On the contrary. Anyone can call the probation department and provide information/concerns to the PO. The PO will not provide any information, of course, but will listen.

If it looks like a scam, and sounds like a scam, and smells like a scam... then its prolly a ____. (guess, its a 4 letter word)

There's no exceptions to that rule, even if ___ supposedly developed their own fpgas (which has been proven to be bupkis).

BFLs Game Plan.
1. Buy somebody else's shit.
2. Slap a sticker on that bitch.
3.
4. Profit.

Those with an ounce of common sense dont rush to give money to companies that could possibly have vaporware.
It is a shame that so many here, being so greedy and lacking in sound judgment, rush to hand over money without thinking it through, demanding proof or reasonable updates. Until many members here get burned multiple times it will not change even though i am finally seeing some change. It only took the pirate fiasco to really start the ball rolling after so many other examples.

Those who ordered will not ask for refunds. Greed has them and they like the risk like a drug user likes the high.
So bfl WILL get to play this as they wish. Like you said, nothing to be done about it when you have so many people willing to hand over 1000s of dollars for the chance to make some peanuts.. Er btc...

Me? I will patiently wait for the dust to settle. I am content with my usd/btc in my pocket and not controlled by others who seem happy to consider their customers guinea pigs in the attempt to make a few bucks.

Bfl will probably deliver, albiet late as usual, for customers but they can do it on other peoples money. Not mine.
Bitcoin and scams are way to dominant around here for my taste.  And no matter the delivery the crap storm that will take place from most of the customers will be hilarious as the jealousy comes out versus those who have early versus those who do not.
Rest assured most early mined btc will be bfl's.

I'll have to take your word on that as I'm not an American, but I find it hard to believe that a random person with no valid reason to demand the information could petition the court to reveal Sonny's parole officer.

Why would they not give it? Someone could submit a request and get it at any time, its public information.

I've been posting negatively about this as much as anyone, but some of these are just ridiculous. They aren't going to give you contact information about his parole office any more than they're going to give you his wife's cell number.

BFL is an incredibly opaque company, their business practices come off as pretty skeezy, and one of their employees is most likely a scammy sack of shit, but that doesn't mean that this entire thing is a scam. It doesn't mean it isn't either and Inaba could likely do a hell of a lot better job of interfacing to the community to assuage those who are on the fence that it's not all a con, but if they don't there's not a whole lot that can be done about it.

The website says 'encryption processors', and in technical speak that can be EITHER a chip or a finished product.  Clearly BFL manufactures the finished product, going so far as to populate chips onto a board and final assembly.  That is more then most companies do, most just have the whole thing built in China.   Their quote is not even a stretch for marketing speak. 


As for any talk about the availability of the EP3SL150F780 it is all over Alibaba.com and they could easily get both the quantity and the price required to build as many BFL Singles as the community could order. 

 

+1 

Inaba, even if you think this forum is "unbecoming of a venue for public discourse" you are still here speaking on behalf of BFL. 

Your lack of professionalism alone is enough to make me not want to ever do business with BFL. 

But add to that the news about the convicted scammer in charge... and his delay in responding to concerns... well Jesus! 
How could you ever think people would 'not' be upset, especially given the recent history of scams in Bitcoin land??? 

INABA and BFL both stated that butterfly labs make custom chips...
yet........ its not a custom chip designed by BFL

it's a altera atratix3 EP3SL150F780 FPGA.

so goodluck BFL talking yourselves out of your websites quote for last 11 months:
quote: Butterfly Labs manufactures a line of high speed encryption processors for use in research, telecommunication and security applications.

if you cannot design a custom chip and need to import it at FPGA level. then designing a ASIC chip will be even harder to produce.

would love to see their dust free lab where they make their chips..

Wow, I was undecided until reading this "response", Inaba. Now, my current viewpoint is that it's EXTREMELY unlikely that a legitimate business, especially a startup, seeking long-term customer relationships would respond anywhere near as angrily and childishly as you just did.

On the off-chance that BFL *is* legit, they need to fire you, or at least take away your ability to say anything on their behalf anywhere. That post was the type of "response" that ends careers.

Yes, taken into consideration the lack of info on your/competitors’ products the benefit of the doubt is a given. No point to post angrily over it.

Okay, Josh, I believe it was you, who had proven that initial (first generation) BFL’s product was real and the whole operation took off because of it. (Please do correct me if i’m wrong) While it does seems ‘unfair’ that after donning staff’s mantle you no longer enjoy the same trust, why can’t you consider doing the same with the current generation using another ‘trusted’ community member/pool operator? Why was not it done properly in London, where you had allegedly had a working prototype? Please do not just go ‘free strategic information’ again, there are plenty of ways around it, and all what such a demo could do (provided at least key info is true and you are not unreasonably late with your product) is not only to confirm your market share but also gain you plenty of new customers.

Were they real people or just virtual sock puppets?