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Can any moderator confirm that I have not deleted any PMs please?
Have you reported any PM for them to check?
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No, we can't directly read PMs, just ones that are reported directly to us.


Maybe try sending PM to theymos or Cyrus, but I doubt anyone will be interested in your case. High chances they wont even reply Tongue
legendary
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but this proves nothing really.

Sorry yahoo62278. and what does fuckinglier777's screenshot prove?

It is his capture that proves nothing. If you want to accuse me of sending PMs show proof, not a Telegram screenshot that you could have easily sent to yourself.

fuckinglier777, I am waiting for you screen recording.

Can any moderator confirm that I have not deleted any PMs please?
legendary
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In the responses I've seen in this thread, Yahoo62278 has said the most acceptable or becoming on the elephant in the room.
Haven't seen the screenshot posted by Royse777, I would say it is too extreme for anyone to go the length in trying to instill in the minds of clients what isn't completely provable on the forum. I've said it before whole referring to the Julerz12 case, we run a perfect forum here and everyone is expected to be perfectionist but, we are all humans none the less and as humans, we make mistakes. What we hedge on in the forum is our words for and words against.

I can still recall even Royse777 stated to have been scammed of about $6k in the bitlucy.com scam. Given the fact that, most users on the forum are always willing to jump at any opportunity one can find after some possible evaluation, it doesn't erase the fact that, you could as well be victimised. I didn't see the site representative trying to prove themselves on the forum since then like Royse777 did and still, his still here, getting contracts and managing them good too.
Having to pm clients on a trust score and discuss it isn't okay. I do hope we preach the goods of users as much as we preach there flaws.

On the screenshot of PMs, i could see at least 3-4 PMs in sequence for October, November and January. Unfortunately, none reflected December which seemed to be the month displayed on Royse777's allegation's screenshot.

Could it be as Yahoo62278 has stated or there is more to it...! At times I wonder why so much drama when we could just be at peace with ourselves, have your perception and just move on.
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but this proves nothing really. You could have deleted pm s to companies and Royse didn't show who his telegram message was from and prove it was from an actual company advertising here. I see why you would want to dispute it as a few have mentioned it's not right that you might pm a company. It's basically your word against theirs currently and really none of us care I don't think.
legendary
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I have had to remove Royse777 from ignore because in the other thread I have seen fat lies being told about me.

You lie, liar, I have not sent any PM to anyone to tell them not to do business with you, liar. And that screenshot is fucking bullshit.

You want me to post a screenshot of my PMs you whiny fucking lying dishonest crybaby?

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Yes, I want it, you fucking liar.

What a coincidence that your scumbag friend naim027 was also supposedly proving that you did not play a major role in Bitlucy with screenshots.

Liar.

There you have it. Let the whole world see what a fucking liar you are.

legendary
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If you are asking me (since you are quoting me I will take it you are), I would ask if you ever had an allegation made against you that your account was either hacked or stolen or sold? If no allegation was made against you then I suppose there is no reason for anybody to suspect you are not the original owner of the joker_josue account. That is my view.

allegations made against someone are not significant if they are not based on evidence. Likewise, if there are no accusations against someone, it is not impossible for him to be guilty.

However, if you want a reply from the one who alleged Royse777 is not the original owner of the account you should consider asking the user who created that thread what he thinks but he has not been around here since November 2021 therefore you might not get a reply.

I don't know how to take seriously anything said by one of the worst trolls on the forum. User ArcusIsidar certainly is. I'm surprised it's not on your ignore list. the fact that he attacks someone you don't like is not enough reason to take him seriously. especially if it's a proven troll.
legendary
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If you are asking me (since you are quoting me I will take it you are), I would ask if you ever had an allegation made against you that your account was either hacked or stolen or sold? If no allegation was made against you then I suppose there is no reason for anybody to suspect you are not the original owner of the joker_josue account. That is my view.

However, if you want a reply from the one who alleged Royse777 is not the original owner of the account you should consider asking the user who created that thread what he thinks but he has not been around here since November 2021 therefore you might not get a reply.

I opened an account on the forum in 2013, until 2020, I posted very little in the English sections. But, in these last 2 years I have a lot of posts in the English sections. Does that mean I sold my account? Huh
legendary
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So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Now I'm curious about these observations... so I can prepare for the future.

How is it that a user who previously only posted in the local tab and then starts posting a lot in the sections in English, is synonymous with the account being sold?

I opened an account on the forum in 2013, until 2020, I posted very little in the English sections. But, in these last 2 years I have a lot of posts in the English sections. Does that mean I sold my account? Huh
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Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?
I saw no aggression on his part but I saw a determination to not give in to you by changing his negative feedback when you started a thread after you managed to get a couple of new campaigns. You wanted the negative feedback removed and he will not do it at the moment and your ego cannot handle it.

It's obvious, I am too good to others and I am not much careful separating people based on liking or I would never PM Poker Player from Casino Critique, or would get a temp ban for sending PM to users inviting to join a campaign. Maybe my heart is too naive to separate friend and enemy. There are many people who like my hard working attitude, align themselves with alike thinking, give their supporting hand when I come up with an idea and ask them to join it. In many occasions together we helped many forum members both financially and by providing information. The history is too long to describe in a paragraph or even few pages of article. It's not just my history, there are many members like me who are in the forum from decade and contributed positively and thought positively.

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me.
So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?
Has Poker Player confirmed he contacted prospective clients to advise them to avoid your as they could end up losing their money?

Regardless of what the screenshot shows or claims to show, did he ever confirm he contacted businesses to avoid hiring you for their campaigns? Until he comments to confirm or deny I will not comment on it but as far as insulting you is concerned that is your opinion. In your opinion you did not insult him but in the opinion of others (including him), maybe you did.
Pathetic. Do I need to repeat it again? Let me just quote it

Do you think I need your suggestion/advice? I don't. Do you think I need approval from you before doing anything? I don't. Do you think I bother to prove anything that you demand? I don't.

You need to understand, you have no importance for me. Stop inviting me to response for your demand, to read your suggestions, to consider your approval. By now if you have brain then it's clear that I treat you same as the waste in my bin. How am I not in your ignore list yet?

Initially I thought about staying out of this thread because it is not been self-moderated
So what made your mind to change?
This?

Now I have no doubt for your waking up after long days again.
It's because of this : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61602255

I ask you again, how am I not in your ignore list yet?
legendary
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Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?
I saw no aggression on his part but I saw a determination to not give in to you by changing his negative feedback when you started a thread after you managed to get a couple of new campaigns. You wanted the negative feedback removed and he will not do it at the moment and your ego cannot handle it.

It's obvious, I am too good to others and I am not much careful separating people based on liking or I would never PM Poker Player from Casino Critique, or would get a temp ban for sending PM to users inviting to join a campaign. Maybe my heart is too naive to separate friend and enemy. There are many people who like my hard working attitude, align themselves with alike thinking, give their supporting hand when I come up with an idea and ask them to join it. In many occasions together we helped many forum members both financially and by providing information. The history is too long to describe in a paragraph or even few pages of article. It's not just my history, there are many members like me who are in the forum from decade and contributed positively and thought positively.

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me.
So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?
Has Poker Player confirmed he contacted prospective clients to advise them to avoid you as they could end up losing their money?

Regardless of what the screenshot shows or claims to show, did he ever confirm he contacted businesses to avoid hiring you for their campaigns? Until he comments to confirm or deny I will not comment on it but as far as insulting you is concerned that is your opinion. In your opinion you did not insult him but in the opinion of others (including him), maybe you did.
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It will sound repetitive, I know and I apologize in advance.

But, as I saw that the subject is related and so as not to think that I am only looking at one side of the situation, I will repeat what I said in another topic, about this type of confusion:

I wasn't very frequent in this area of the forum, because I was never one to do big business with other members. But, in the last few months I have been paying attention to this section, for several reasons - which may go through some negotiations.

But, from what I've seen in the last few months, what appears here are tantrums between users. What need do I have to know that user X doesn't like Y?
We don't have to like everyone, nor do we all have the same opinions on matters. That's what makes this community interesting and different from many others.

As imperfect people, we all make mistakes in the choices we make. The difference is whether the person is able to learn from those mistakes and change to try to improve in the future. Analysis should be done, whether the user has learned and changed or not.

If we don't like or support a user, there is an "ignore" option that can be used. I see a lot of people giving value to people they don't like.

Don't focus on the problems, focus on the solutions! Learn from past mistakes so as not to repeat them in the future. But for that, you don't have to be stuck in the past.

That said, any warnings and useful information we have about someone here on the forum is always good to share. Then letting each one evaluate what he should do based on that information.
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I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you.
I had the same curiosity until I realized that it was obvious because most of the time I reply in public to a new project and offer my service with the discussion. It's possible that he scan my post activity and takes his opportunity. It's still unrealistic to think.

I will drop an advise for you @Royse778, sometimes some we called to be our friends were the enemies hidden and unknown to us while the enemies we taught about seeing may not be but you should under that some people do overreact to situations, you need to be more focused on the task of the race ahead of you, many could have got geolous of you through diverse means but you don't necessarily have to keep a listening hears to their noise because they are just but an ordinary crying symbal, if they think they can double cross you then they have just begin an hectic journey of an unfinished task that will end them nowhere and I think the forum and the campaigns needed more of you than these distraction noise, your worth is evident to the forum and well appreciated, some just wish they have achieved your milestone.
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I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you.
I had the same curiosity until I realized that it was obvious because most of the time I reply in public to a new project and offer my service with the discussion. It's possible that he scan my post activity and takes his opportunity. It's still unrealistic to think.
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I actually followed up on the discussion and saga that erupted following the failure of the Bitlucy campaign. To be honest, if the clients still come to you after everything that happened there and ask you to handle more work for them, then your work for them cannot be debated. Even if clients see the tag associated with your profile and still hire you, it's because they saw potential in you and if you can satisfy them to the best of your ability, you don’t have a problem here.
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All these drains energy and makes one thinks alot giving much concern to what should not be when looking at your current state of health.
I plead with you all my leaders to let peace reign.

One love!

Leave his health out of this.

BTW, we don't have leaders; we only have a supreme head (theymos), and everyone is equal here!! If the forum was peaceful every day, it would be fucking boring; little fights and drama like this make it a better place. Where there are multiple races, peace is not always guaranteed. I'm sure you didn't see the VOD vs OGnasty drama. haha
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Unfortunately first impressions stick in someone's mind for a long time. I cannot speak for him, but it's all likely due to how he feels about the old drama a few months ago.

I don't think it's cool if he in messaging your clients or potential clients. He can leave a feedback (which he has done) and let people decide for themselves.

As far as insulting you goes, you'll just have to get thick skin and deal with that. Make all your topics self moderated and ignore him. Really not much that can be done there. Many wars go on like this in the forum.

Currently bitcoingirl.club tries to chastise jollygood and time he can. Then there was ognasty and vod. And tons of other little flame wars. It's a small part of the forum, let it go and continue working hard. You vindicate yourself by the actions you do on this forum.

I think you thought I had an issue with you, but I was just pushing hard for answers. I probably got too heated myself and took it too far, but I have no problem with you or you managing 1000 campaigns.

Royse777 seems pretty genuine. When I posted my story Royse sent me a pm. I will not disclose what was in the pm or anything, but I read it a few times and I appreciate the contents of the message.

Mistakes happen. We can't just aggressively attack everyone for mistakes. We can but the forum will start becoming a ghost town.  

I have read through and see lots here.  This looks like there have been some misunderstanding going on for a while which is not good for the forum members to see that our legends are at each others nerves. Please Sir I understand that you are trying to make peace amongst your colleagues which is very good of you as a leader but currently now, your health is very much important to us here and we would love it that you do not stress yourself too much so as to enable you concentrate on your full recovery. All these drains energy and makes one thinks alot giving much concern to what should not be when looking at your current state of health.

I plead with you all my leaders to let peace reign.

One love!
legendary
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The world is not black and white but a 1000 shades of gray.
Most people live and work and spend most of their time in that large middle gray area. However, we all have our sections of black and white.
PP says black Rocye says white where I think most of us reading both threads are saying come on the the grey area there is plenty of room.

As was pointed out above bitcoingirl.club vs. jollygood ,  ognasty vs vod and countless others have gone on and will go on and while some people will pick sides with other people most others will just watch and comment and not pay attention to it.

It sucks that it did take money out of your pocket by costing you a client, but now that you know you can prepare and be warned what he may do.

-Dave
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How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me. Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

While I don't think PP should have done that, you need to realize that the client didn't drop you because PP told them something, just like you didn't get banned because someone reported you. You got banned because you broke the rules, and the client didn't want to work with you because of how they perceived your role in the BitLucy story. You can deal with that by not breaking the rules and by being upfront about your past issues, which I would have thought was made blatantly obvious by the CC fiasco.
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Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?
Can you show some proof for this claims?
This is certainly not cool and it looks pathetic from anyone doing this, if this is true.

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Nah, this is excessive, this is unacceptable behavior; I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you. I never thought anyone could harbor such hatred for someone they met on the internet. sounds ridiculous 

BTW welcome back! I hope you've learned your lesson, because people reporting your PM shows you have more enemies than you realize. ( Why would anyone report a simple invitation PM when they could simply delete or ignore it? Nah, sadists exist.)
legendary
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Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?
Can you show some proof for this claims?
This is certainly not cool and it looks pathetic from anyone doing this, if this is true.

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Royse777 seems pretty genuine. When I posted my story Royse sent me a pm. I will not disclose what was in the pm or anything, but I read it a few times and I appreciate the contents of the message.
You are welcome bud. We will have long discussion over PM after you come back to us soon. Stay strong.
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