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December 22, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
#26
That is the exact reason of why you should stay away from dice sites.

Yes and instead bet on live events which you can in TV before your eyes Smiley
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December 22, 2014, 09:18:45 AM
#25
That is the exact reason of why you should stay away from dice sites.
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December 21, 2014, 03:09:43 PM
#24
For the record, a .0000717% occurrence (for anyone who is miscalculating)

Well, this is the first time out of all of my gambling experience I've ever come across this:



Two things.... 4 rolls under 10 and 3 rolls under 1.5?!

EDIT - From my calculations, in 160 bets I hit 1/14000 odds (lucky or what). Seems highly unlikely that something like this can occur considering i've made 160 bets on the site, and only 10 rolls on that seed.

Unanswered: another quick question... If I change my seed, would my nonce be changed or reset or remain the same?
1/14000 indeed is big deal but taking into account all the bets that have been placed on SD(1m+), it had to happen to some1  Embarrassed
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December 21, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
#23
Not the odds of me losing the payout I was on, but rather hitting under 1.51 3 times in a row

1.51% * 1.51% * 1.51% = 0.000344%.
But I have seen a 20 losses in a row with x2 bets, which has a much lower chance to occur.
The highest I've seen 2x bets is 23, using my peerbet.org dicebot... It logs winning and loosing streaks.
Thet highest at x2 happened on primedice I think, went to 32.
Not seen it though. Personally, I don't use martingale or 2x much, and the worst I have had is 18.

32 red streak at 2x sounds insane, why can't anyone get half a green streak like that. Worst red I've had was 16x and best green streak was maybe 10x.

IMO, it is because many players don't even know the existence of long green streak.

If a player use auto bets, encounter a very long red streak, he will lose his balance and notice the long streak.
If a player use auto bets, encounter a very long greed streak, he won't notice anything special on his account unless he is watching the bets very closely.
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December 21, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
#22
Well, this is the first time out of all of my gambling experience I've ever come across this:



Two things.... 4 rolls under 10 and 3 rolls under 1.5?!

Can someone tell me what the odd of this is. Seems highly unlikely that something like this can occur considering i've made 160 bets on the site, and only 10 rolls on that seed.

another quick question... If I change my seed, would my nonce be changed or reset?
1 / (.397*.397*.397*.263*.263) = 231.055 (multiplying the odds of losing each bet)

If you make 5 rolls, 1 in 231 series of 5 rolls will lose all five rolls of the sequence pictured above.

or 0.43%. Not statistically impossible by any means, you just got unlucky.
indeed :-)
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December 21, 2014, 11:44:47 AM
#21
So, after all, there are people as unlucky as me, lol
Well if you consider the guy with 28 losses, then he would be probably more unluckier.

Damn, quite unluckier lol
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December 21, 2014, 11:34:44 AM
#20
There's not nothing of strange in this row! 3 rolls under 1.51 it's possible, 4 rolls too!
Martingale strategy is the best way to lose money!
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December 21, 2014, 11:30:34 AM
#19
So, after all, there are people as unlucky as me, lol
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December 21, 2014, 09:11:59 AM
#18
nonce usually resets to 0 on some sites after you change the seed. Some sites dont change the nonce and continue.
Not sure if users can reset it manually.

On SafeDice, ssers can reset both the server and client seeds manually, or just one of them.
Nice, guess that makes it convenient for the players. Thanks for answering.
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December 21, 2014, 09:10:46 AM
#17
nonce usually resets to 0 on some sites after you change the seed. Some sites dont change the nonce and continue.
Not sure if users can reset it manually.

On SafeDice, ssers can reset both the server and client seeds manually, or just one of them.
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December 21, 2014, 09:04:09 AM
#16
nonce usually resets to 0 on some sites after you change the seed. Some sites dont change the nonce and continue.
Not sure if users can reset it manually.
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December 21, 2014, 08:38:34 AM
#15
For the record, a .0000717% occurrence (for anyone who is miscalculating)

Well, this is the first time out of all of my gambling experience I've ever come across this:



Two things.... 4 rolls under 10 and 3 rolls under 1.5?!

EDIT - From my calculations, in 160 bets I hit 1/14000 odds (lucky or what). Seems highly unlikely that something like this can occur considering i've made 160 bets on the site, and only 10 rolls on that seed.

Unanswered: another quick question... If I change my seed, would my nonce be changed or reset or remain the same?

Hi Spodermen,

On safedice, nonce is the number of rolls you have made using the server seed, so it will be reset if you change the server seed. If you only change the client seed, the nounce will be unchanged.

Hope you enjoying your play here.

Frank from Safedice.com
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December 21, 2014, 08:03:21 AM
#14
You've just got unlucky everything can happen at random.
You would get very lucky if you selected to bet under 10  Grin
Even un der 5 would give you 3 losses, which is less probably but not impossible.
You can also run simulations of dice and see it is very possible.
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December 21, 2014, 07:51:14 AM
#13
You've just got unlucky everything can happen at random.
You would get very lucky if you selected to bet under 10  Grin
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December 21, 2014, 07:16:40 AM
#12
For the record, a .0000717% occurrence (for anyone who is miscalculating)

Well, this is the first time out of all of my gambling experience I've ever come across this:



Two things.... 4 rolls under 10 and 3 rolls under 1.5?!

EDIT - From my calculations, in 160 bets I hit 1/14000 odds (lucky or what). Seems highly unlikely that something like this can occur considering i've made 160 bets on the site, and only 10 rolls on that seed.


Nothing is impossible. You just got unlucky. Sad

See: http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Random%20Nine  Cheesy
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December 21, 2014, 06:00:07 AM
#11
Unanswered: another quick question... If I change my seed, would my nonce be changed or reset or remain the same?

From my own testing, changing your account seed on Safedice won't affect your nonce or your server seed at all.
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December 21, 2014, 05:34:30 AM
#10
Not the odds of me losing the payout I was on, but rather hitting under 1.51 3 times in a row

1.51% * 1.51% * 1.51% = 0.000344%.
But I have seen a 20 losses in a row with x2 bets, which has a much lower chance to occur.
The highest I've seen 2x bets is 23, using my peerbet.org dicebot... It logs winning and loosing streaks.
Thet highest at x2 happened on primedice I think, went to 32.
Not seen it though. Personally, I don't use martingale or 2x much, and the worst I have had is 18.

Yep, long losing streaks are usual for me too on primedice.
But on safedice I also had 9 loses in a row. So .. yeah.. not very probable doesn't make it impossible...
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December 21, 2014, 05:29:46 AM
#9
Not the odds of me losing the payout I was on, but rather hitting under 1.51 3 times in a row

1.51% * 1.51% * 1.51% = 0.000344%.
But I have seen a 20 losses in a row with x2 bets, which has a much lower chance to occur.
The highest I've seen 2x bets is 23, using my peerbet.org dicebot... It logs winning and loosing streaks.
Thet highest at x2 happened on primedice I think, went to 32.
Not seen it though. Personally, I don't use martingale or 2x much, and the worst I have had is 18.
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December 21, 2014, 04:47:45 AM
#8
Seems a bit unfair if you ask me... Curious as to if your nonce was supposed to be changed or not. Was it changed when you changed your seed/if you have changed your seed when playing?
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December 21, 2014, 04:28:22 AM
#7
Not the odds of me losing the payout I was on, but rather hitting under 1.51 3 times in a row

1.51% * 1.51% * 1.51% = 0.000344%.
But I have seen a 20 losses in a row with x2 bets, which has a much lower chance to occur.
The highest I've seen 2x bets is 23, using my peerbet.org dicebot... It logs winning and loosing streaks.
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