Topic: Re: The release of Satoshi's personal data - page 12. (Read 29134 times)

franky1, as your new internet acquaintance, I tell you in all good fellowhood, you are looking extremely foolish to wildly claim James and I are the same person playing sock puppet here.  I even linked his Majority Rights audio interview of me.  Tens of thousands of White Nationalists know who we both are. They will really get a belly laugh to read you, bud.

  You can see me in the movie Welcome to Leith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Leith
which was at Sundance, was attended by Jeremy Irons during the Paris opening, won 1st place in Boston and another city, was on Netflix, nominated for an Academy Award in the documentary category,
https://www.kfyrtv.com/home/headlines/Welcome-to-Leith-Documentary-to-Compete-for-Academy-Award-336662341.html
and was produced by a blonde Jewish woman whose mother lives with a Zimbabwean man in Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) where they run a resort.  I think it has been translated into Japanese and Swedish.

James talked about a dice game with adjustable odds and payouts using bitcoin.  I am not saying he built that or called it after himself, i.e. "Satoshi Dice".  Someone else could have easily done that.  James may or may not have assisted with coding, encouragement, friendliness to the creator(s) and so forth.  He may have been reading about it on his board, this very board, bitcointalk.org, when he was in total control here as Satoshi.

I am just saying he liked the project and posited it to me, to the best of my memory, as his idea.  Maybe he was talking it up behind the scenes with the coders who made it?  I remember he liked it as a use-case for bitcoin.  He also, at some juncture, cited or read the paper towels (Bounty)
and plastic tableware, paper plates buy use-case.  That seemed amusing and worthwhile, whenever it was he cited or read that to me.

ok so now your going with that james didnt conceptualise satoshi dice because your talks about satoshi dice and units of account were done so AFTER both units of account and the game were operational.(late 2012)

atleast that defeats your claims that james conceptualised had an idea of a dice game..

atleast you can say you climbed your way out of that hole early before you dug yourself too deep trying to fake fame james up as the guy that concepted the units of account and the game.

We talked about Satoshi the man in January 2009 and in the fall of 2012.  Probably in 2008 after Satoshi's first Oct. 31 paper.  There was much peer-to-peer, stock market collapse (ref. Satoshi's Chancellor headline) political and Tanimoshi talk in 2008.  franky1, I respectfully urge you to read a few hours of James' Majority Rights posts, as well as his stackexchange posts and his own linkedin technical background.  (James is pretty assiduously careful not to get into bitcoin on Majority Rights, though he does many other places and of course, in-person or in voice convos.
You will see, franky1, this gentlemen is not some rube.  And I am telling you with all truthfulness and accuracy of what he and I talked of in great detail during the weeks and months surrounding the birth of bitcoin.  

James Bowery does not have a single post on Cypherpunks as James Bowery that I have ever seen.  He was late to catch on or first hear about it?  Surely you don't assert that at this point.  Or he was secretive?  Canny?  

This is no big hat trick.  As Satoshi is James, who actually made this fun Stormfront blue vbuelletin clone site known at bitcointalk.org, he was privy to all the talk and cultural evolutions here.  What was it, 11 or 14 months Satoshi openly hung around here and posted as Satoshi? I could look it up, but you get the drift.  Is there something not making chronological forensic sense to you? Why wouldn't he be pleased or even  proud the community had cleverly honored Satoshi with the unit, if indeed your account is the correct provenance of the term?

so when did james teach you all about bitcoin and the units of account
2008,9,10?

after all your trying to claim james conceptualised the game so he must have done so early on while you were still naive about bitcoin.


^ seems you are trying to make it plausible that james might have created it due to him having an idea which he discussed with you..

going back to the units of account

now before you even bother to try to quickly google search a date and make up a story.. the units of account came to fruition after february 2011
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47442

and was done so by the community. not james and not satoshi...
and as i said the game came after and was about gambliing units of account. it was not named after the creator

have a nice day

James explained the value of a Satoshi to me long before you ever had your first bit of bitcoin.

franky1, you have already been majorly publicly wrong in this thread, not even being able to identify James' and my completely different styles of sentence structures, to cognize that on your own mental volition, or really-- until lately, even to look us up on the net, myself via my Wiki and James everywhere and then self-ruminate you may have been wrong.

Remember this too?
https://postimg.cc/Vdvmkr7H

This is not Stormfront, even though Satoshi himself purposefully set it up to look just like Stormfront, so pipe down and listen, or pretty soon we might be off to the races with anti-reality, never-existing jesus the way things are going.  That anti-reality tends to leach over into all things mental.

EDIT.  You still can't see.  Patterns can be hard.

franky1 said above:

satoshidice has nothing to do with bitcoins creator

so lets clear some crap up for the social drama queen
1. the smallest unit of account for bitcoin 0.00000001 is called a satoshi. this was not given to the unit of measure by the creator of bitcoin. it was given by the community in honour months AFTER the disappearance of bitcoins creator
2. satoshi dice game is not named after the creator. the satoshi dice game is about gambling using units of measure
3. satoshi dice game was not created by satoshi or by james.

seriously timestamp. your social crap of waffle of personal messages in skype are proving nothing. infact the more you mention the more you making yourself look foolish

give up while your behind

trying to kiss james ass by faming him up by suggesting he not only is satoshi but also created(under the satoshi name) the game satoshi dice. is laughable.. and you fell into a hole you just dug for yourself

also the james account trying to fame up the timestamp account continues to make me think timestamp and james are one and the same. especially went you went full on 'this account has commercial value'

your not gonna get famous, your not gonna get rich from your attempts. sorry but talking to yourself wont lead to riches. it will just lead to you talking to yourself and looking more and more like a nutcase.

so best to just give up while your behind.
i would poke more holes in your social drama attempts. but i think spending just a few minutes a day on this topic is a few minutes too many

Coin Clarity said:


I see, Cyrus.  Thanks for ably demonstrating to AGD and others JAB and myself are two separate people.  It's very kind of you to help Charlie Manson AGD out.  It's important to be nice to people.

Maybe you'd tweet to #marttimalmi too, and ask if he'll admit we communicated via Skype in Finland long before he was known to the world.  Ask him how he came into Skype contact with Craig Cobb, the American from Tallinn, and was talking to me as I sat in Helsinki's Kallio library
http://www.helmet.fi/en-US
 the day or day after Tom Metzger was raided.  Martti and I talked about it, a typed Skype chat.  I'd tweet to Martti, but was banned by Pol Potter Dorsey's squad. Cite this.  This would jog Martti's memory.  Tom told the ATF to put his house key under the front doormat when they were finished:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

I sat up here in the mezzanine:
http://www.helmet.fi/en-US/Libraries_and_services/Kallio_Library/Whats_going_on/Book_an_exhibition_space_for_your_art_at(163773)
http://www.helmet.fi/en-US/Libraries_and_services/Kallio_Library

I've read variations on the NSA theme.  From James' many Majority Rights posts, and from knowing him myself, I don't believe he is an NSA operative.  His Dad was an IRS agent; one might surmise, also very good with numbers.  A bit familialy ironic, as shown by my earlier post with link to James' statement that he'd been audited years later.  Life's like that.  Sure.

James would remember his early liking of a dice game which sets the odds.  It was just an idea then. In this thread, James has already recalled our general talks about other matters.  Now I don't know if this is the very same proprietor-game explained to me, but "Satoshi's Dice" was sold for 126,315 BTC, or USD $12.4 million at the time of the announcement of the sale.

I researched it a bit a few weeks ago.  Plus, I recall James' citing at the time how the odds of one's winning could be adjusted by the player, as would (automatically) the payout slide.  If you pick easy odds, you win commensurately less; hard odds, more.  James really loved the conceptual idea of this game, and his enthusiasm made me feel upbeat about its chances too.

In any case, I could not find any open, easily seen participation by James or international persona Satoshi in the coding of the game, its sale or its hack.  But the game, as it exists, is precisely as described to me by James.  As with so many of our talks regarding bitcoin, James copiously explains all aspects, machinations, possibilities, number relationships etc.  It was fascinating.  
 
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Dice

https://www.satoshidice.com/en/

Safe Dice is the same James explained and you can play this one instantly.  In my mind's eye, this is the precise one I envisioned per James' description. I particularly like the layout of this one, but I don't play-- am a bit of a stoicist, and never have other than the test rolls which you can do here now:
https://safedice.com/play

Many versions abound:
https://gamblingbitcoin.com/bitcoin-dice/

Let's sum it up:

1. OP is not able to provide any hard proof of his claim that JB is Satoshi Nakamoto and OP is not able to sign a message from that specific early Bitcoin address, because he has lost the wallet file and password.

2. JB has no reason to provide any hard proof of OP's claims, wether he is Satoshi Nakamoto or not.

/thread

at least the OP tries to do its best to provide information about satoshi nakamoto, I appreciate its ambition but it seems like the information you provide is only a joke.

Yeah I just cold-tweeted him as you said, no previous connection. I've been lurking in this thread for a while, thought I would deflate the theory of you and JAB being the same person.


Just for the record I don't think Finney was a potential candidate -- he's just in the list of those frequently cited as possibly being Satoshi. My favorite theory is that the NSA had put together a group of individuals who all signed NDAs about their involvement with the project, two of which may or may not have been Nick Szabo and Hal Finney. But really I know just as much as anybody else, which isn't much.

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-2/

My address-- 1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW --received one of those 3 transmissions, as I was online the entire period on voice Skype with James as he said he was sending it until it came in to my wallet and thereafter.
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S

As I've mentioned somewhere else in this thread, James could have been put up to it by Satoshi (if one ridiculously posits he was not Satoshi) or have otherwise acquired "Satoshi's" private keys-- both of these hypotheticals would have transpired after extremely specific voice lectures by James to myself over voice Skype on the process, characteristics and invention of blockchain, and at a time when the whole thing was virtually unknown, save for Cypherpunks and a few others who chanced to download the software between Jan. 3, 2009, and Jan. 12, 2009, nine days later.  I downloaded it at James' complete directional behest.

How long have you known James, Cyrus?  You met sharing the common interest of bitcoin? My thought is you may have cold-tweeted to James after reading this thread.  I hope more journalists show your curiosity.  James even understands why Satoshi would have picked me to send one of the first few transmissions of bitcoin, and surprise-- just as most people's ideas of gawd are that he thinks a lot like them, James maybe would have sent me 10 coins too for my pioneering video site had the great Satoshi not beat him to it.  Good thing is, James had already explained the denomination "a Satoshi" to me, had explained "nobody knows who Satoshi is", and good-naturedly been a sporting loser by telling me how Satoshi had beat him to success in creating the same type of peer-to-peer coin which James himself had been working on.  Tough luck, eh?, but James bore anonymouse Satoshi no ill will; he was tickled.

See James' very recent Facebook post on pitiable ALS-- Lou Gehrig’s disease-- "casualty" (James' descriptor) Hal Finney (made days after I began these bitcointalk posts) to get an idea of what he might think of your having Hal on your list of Satoshi-maybes.

I notice that you didn't start responding until after you responded to the tweet. That's me by the way. I'm a cryptocurrency writer who published a 3-piece series on Who Is Satoshi, hence my interest:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/
https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-2/
https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-3/

Ergo, safe to say, you are you and he is him, and without better evidence you're definitely not Satoshi.

Somebody's conviction that you are him doesn't constitute proof.

doublespend timestamp, even if you did locate the keys to your address, all it actually proves is that you received that transaction, which is newsworthy in itself but not actually proof that James is Satoshi.

If people want to convince themselves that I'm neither Satoshi nor doublespend/Craig, they are free to peruse my twitter feed where I responded to someone who pointed me to this thread.


Careful, Craig.  While it is true that the pseudo-anti-bigots don't have their heads screwed on straight about me, your wording needs to be a bit more careful because too many people don't recognize "blonde" as female as opposed to "blond" as male.  This is a a hot button with east Asian men, and understandably so given all the white-man-asian-woman couples and the high M:F ratio in China.  In fact, the idea you and I discussed was the topic of a 2012 MR article of mine, in which I had to post a comment pointing out this precise difficulty.

A perhaps even more incisive dispatch of the notion that I'm all about hating other races is this post to MR which caused a lot of folks to think of me as a race traitor or something.  And it, in fact, forms the basis of my religious beliefs -- one which is has made me a pariah among white nationalists as well as the mainstream.

So be it.

But be that as it may, my sympathetic posture toward east Asian men doesn't mean I'd use an east Asian male pseudonym.


Well, there is one piece of advice I'd wish you'd executed on... the one about locating away from any zoning. 

nope, i just see passed BS and i see passed people sucking up. so please just stop.
nothings worse on this forum the those that just want to cause social drama and be a kiss ass.

oh and dont bother using another of your alt accounts to keep your social drama alive. just quit while your still behind

- Moses, Bitcoin Moses


There are worldwide people here-- many people who are multilingual.

When you say "supposed not to be published for other reason", you mean there is some implantation of message in the code, but in English,

like the Chancellor message, which asserts a curse or something?  Well that is funny if true.  But I think you are suggesting someone must

crack the encryption code to know.  Ha.  That's what Satoshi might like.  I don't have to because I know with 100% certitude.  

So far as I know, I am the first to actually widely disseminate this truth.  I can't know if his brother, his wife,  Martti Malmi or someone else knows.

I guess I am not following what many of you seem to believe-- that the only irrevocable or valid proof is one's BTC blockchain address and the signings.  That's a bit rationally limiting.  

James Bowery Satoshi Nakamoto is a big believer in the infallibility of such strings of numbers and letters.  That's good and well.  It doesn't obviate other elements of personal experience.

It doesn't matter a great deal to me if this board or the world believes me.  Nice if some other proofs would come through-- James would admit or something.  For me, just telling the truth and putting it out there is fine.  May be like D.B. Cooper ... sooner or later, the truth will out.
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franky1, you are the only one on here with James Bowery's intellect.  We're all very grateful for that.

franky1, are you a Christian, Sir?  You have a big imagination.

In answering Bobby Park again, I think Moses Bitcoin is right-- theymos is surely not Satoshi, as being a mod

on vbulletin is a boring and tedious job.  Did it in 2004 on VNNF-  Vanguard News Network's forum. 

Satoshi wouldn't put up with that, except as a brief, months-long teaching episode, whereas theymos is just pleased with his historic PMs.


As I have a couple of times, Satoshi absolutely did key this vbulletin to look like Stormfront as a little joke,

and I say that not even knowing if it used to be a different color and style.  As soon as the Pol Potter Democrats get back in for the

duration decades of the national chaos, members may be sent to rehab camps.

blah blah blah
more pages of double time stamp saying proof is his alter ego promoting the time stamp username while the timestamp username promotes the JAB name.

and then drops in yet another alter ego name trying to now promote the old alter ego of 'sol adoni'
it all comes full circle to my first post that an old user who went by 'bitcoinpro' who just turns up to cause some social drama has returned.

funny part is even timestamp doesnt know who the real satoshi is because now timestamp is presuming theymos is satoshi
so with 72 posts in this topic of people discussing it and the topic creator just fell flat.

by now thinking satoshi is theymos

oh and ofcourse now trying to cash in on some weird belief that he has now became famous and made his timestamp username "commercially valued"

how predictable

How many time we will have information about Satoshi's personal data
the only one his real private id is Nakamoto  Satoshi
Nakamoto is very popular in Japain Satoshi as well
i really i don't know what is all about with re availing who is Satoshi
And  FBI hunting for him

Hello Kakmakr, You are wrong. Satoshi Nakamoto's real identity supposed not to be published for other reason. If some one reveals the true identity of real Satoshi Nakamoto then how he will be ridiculed by this community ? It is the real Satoshi Nakamoto created the Bitcoin Talk Forum. If any one thinking to become the impostor of real Satoshi Nakamoto must be able to decipher Genesis Block Hash using SAH-256. This is the hash of the Genesis Block where the real identity of real Satoshi is encrypted, 000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f. Ask any one out there to decrypt the Genesis Block Hash. and you will find the real Satoshi Nakamoto.  Adinai Elhenu ! Adonai Satoshi !


- Moses, Bitcoin Moses

Oh ! Yes ! Theymos has spoken to Satoshi Nakamoto. Indeed, Theymos himself, is Satoshi Nakamoto. This Bitcoin Address is also created by Satoshi Nakamoto 1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD. Who is this lady saying Oh ! Yes !