Topic: Rebooting the World after the COVID-19 Shutdown - page 3. (Read 720 times)

I just think this is manipulation and it will cost you a lot to go against the rules of nature. At present, the US economy and some world powers are still suffering a lot of damage. could be a major recession next year because the economy is delayed too long. I don't believe Bitcoin can grow strongly in the coming months. When bitcoin halving end, there will be a strong correction from the whales.

Maybe, it is just like a restart or refreshing our mind about the pandemic because it is not that easy to go back to normal if you know that there is still a risk of getting the virus. Soon after the vaccine has created, that's the right time for us to restart and help each other recover and grown again from this virus. There are a lot of people and sectors that are really affected by this virus and having a hard time to stand up again because not all of us are equal financially. We need to work from the start again, save money, do what we are doing before this pandemic and go back to our normal state. Having so much confident after this pandemic will put your life in to danger so still be mindful and keep yourself safe after recovery.

I couldn't find the article, was too long and became boring a Philosophy. I wish it was a new discovery on science on how to tackle global recession by staying home and making money with a scientific code. Lols.

Actually it is a very long article and has many unnecessary details, you should omit some irrelevant ideas to make the article more concise. To me, only countries affected by serious epidemics such as the US, Italy, Spain, etc. have a great impact on the needs and psychology of consumers. it's simply because the social inactivity keeps them from being able to do more and makes no money. and after the pandemic is under control, they will have to go to work to pay off their debts and thereby reduce consumer habits. So my conclusion is that the services and manufacturing of luxury goods will suffer a lot of consequences and it is very difficult to restore user habits.

BTC is currently rebooting the world as the price has surged to 10k in this pandemic situation. Post halving will be awesome and we might have a breaking record this year if this momentum continues.

People should not expect that the economy would kick up in a haste, yes. The world economy was taken down by the pandemic and now that glimpse of light is coming up as restarting is taking place, we need to gradually key in and for life to turn to normal. Everything is gradual step , leagues are preparing to restart and soon the economy will come back and people we get back to their lives, we have to be patient while staying safe.

it is not easy to be able to recover from the causes of this corona pandemic, because many countries have been affected by this pandemic and many countries are not ready in terms of handling this pandemic. so that the allocation of funds for this pandemic must be provided quite a lot because many countries have to do "lock down" and "stay home", where the state must prepare all the needs of its citizens so that there is no shortage or even starvation. because many citizens are unemployed and do not get salaries to fulfill their needs.
if this pandemic passes, it is unknown how long the economic recovery will take time to get back to normal.

The way this epidemic has spread round the world will take an extended time to recover the economy Everyone will remember the damage that has been done to the country during this point because numerous deaths haven't been done before especially within the whole world. Everyone can panic and learn from here but after the COVID-19 pack up it'll take time to reboot the planet.

Because people now a days lives in YOLO life and doesn't think about the future that's why many got affected especially those country who belongs in third world section.

After this pandemic diseases who ever economically recover faster will gain a limelight globally since for sure many country in the world will keep looking forward unto them and follow what foot steps they do to rise.

we all fail to learn from the past...
A great country is a country that will learn from this experience, but I cannot refuse you, that we will forget about the Pandemic and will continue to repeat making mistakes in the future 

Reasons the shutdown is occurring is.

#1  We failed to learn from the history of the Spanish Flu.

#2  We failed to learn from the history of the Great Depression.

#3  We failed to learn from Voltaire that paper money always returns to its intrinsic value of zero.

Whatever lessons we learn from this pandemic. People 100 years from now will forget.

They'll repeat all of our mistakes. And probably add a few of their own.

Ahh, the Hierarchy of Needs proposed by Maslow. You literally posted a whole discussion of a Psychology course into a bitcoin forum..

Technically after the COVID-19 pandemic, people and governments would be more aware that infectious diseases are lingering just around the corner and nature is not one to fuck with. Also, more people will inform themselves into basic biology and medical science, as most seem to ignore this certain area which caused the pandemic. Governments will invest more on the field of medical and biological research, and ultimately, people will focus more on health and hygiene needs after this is all said and done.

I don't see any restructuring of our economic structure currently, and the only thing that will change is everyone's outlook and perception on viruses and how severe they can be. Frankly though, the economy will take a beating of its own--and a hard one at that--and just like any other economic downturn/recession that we have had in the past, things will get back to normal once more.

It's good reading a post like this again, and I felt like I wasted 10 mins of reading and re-reading everything even if I already know what it contains. One thing and one thing only, consumer culture will not die as long as people feel that vanity is a part of their own system to belong to their society, or to be just acceptable within the social norms. Viruses will not be the reason for it to disappear, and the quarantines around the world made it even worse for some people who are eagerly wanting to go out and get back to their daily lives.

Yeah, I did, but to be honest, at the end I was so bored because I already knew where all this was going..
The essence is in the conclusion the author wants to arrive to, it purposely twists facts just so it can draw this one out of his magical hat.

Now, the important fragment:


Again and again, the same rhetoric, the world will change after Covid.
Nope! The world has not changed after two 22, has not changed after 9/11 has not changed after Hiv has not changed after the swine flu and it will not change now.
Wishing for something and trying to see facts where is simple speculation is not the way to analyze an event.


I can only laugh at this...
The end of the consumer culture?
Here we go again...
Has the consumer culture ended after 1907, Black Monday of 1987, Asian financial crisis,  2007 crisis, European bond crisis...Nope!

I've seen this a lot of times lately and not only here in other forums also, people that hate the way things are now, people that hate the luxury market, the opulence, the show off of the ones that have money thing we will suddenly cast that aside and return to good old communism where we only build factories for the greater good of mankind..

But history has taught us some else is going to happen shortly after this
We won't have a constructive society based on basic needs, not at all, what is going to come after this recession is more consumption, more spending because people will not join the "preppers club", they will join the "you live only once club".



 

I feel like this is a pretty short-sighted conclusion. Sure, the upper middle class is forced to do some soul searching, and that might lead to something good once this all passes. A lot of other people face a different reality though: job layoffs and loss of income. Some have been hit a lot harder than others, and I'm not sure if everyone would be as united as the OP theorizes considering the massive rift between priorities (being productive vs. surviving). We're also going to be so preoccupied with rebooting the economy that it's going to be a lot easier to fall back into old habits than rebooting our psychology.

To add, I know of at least one instance of a country (supposedly) recovering from the pandemic, and it doesn't look like their people have changed their mentality at all. I suppose we'll see, but the biggest change I foresee is that people would have more awareness of their leaders' incompetence because they actually need to pay attention now -- I just hope that leads to change for the better.

Anyone read the whole text seriously? I thought of reading the conclusion and it is a little bit long too. OP you need to make tl;dr for real! BTW I start having headaches since I studied this years ago and It gave me headaches.

Some 2 days back I come cross a tweet which says: The world is shut down for renovation and soon a grand reopening.

Yes, we are not just going to reboot this year 2020 but the entire world (there could be few excepting countries), and the prime concern for me would be how bitcoin is going to make use of this situation. People may prefer bitcoin against their country's slow economy conditions. I am not seeing there would be no country will escape from this recession as no industry is working right now. Countries with agriculture may restore their economy quicker than other countries but this is just a speculation from what I had observed in 2008 but the current situation must be complete different from what we had in the past.

The current conditions force people to persue their basic needs working hard and low paying jobs in hopes to cover the debt someday. I think the COVID situation will only make the things worse, not better for a majority of people anyway. Of course it feels good to imagine the idealistic picture of the current outcome, but nonetheless be prepared to see the worst.

Wow this is a long read... I agree with almost all of them if that really worths anything, however I think whoever wrote this actually wrote with some sort of knowledge and research and that shows in the read as well, all of the things talked about here has some sort of backing academically and that really means something in this place since most of the topics written are usually opinion based and not really all that amazingly thought over and just basically "I think bitcoin goes to.." type of thing.

Something written with so much research and discussion has not really been seen here for a long time now. I would suggest everyone to read this if they want to know what are the potentials after all of this is over, the human psychologically after something like this gonna be very different.

Seriously, though I applaud OP's effort.  I don't have anywhere near the attention span to read through a massive post like that, but I've been asking myself sort of the same question lately.  Seems like society has made a lot of changes that don't seem like they're going to be easily undone--and I think a lot of the changes are fairly unnecessary as well, but that's just my opinion.  It isn't going to be easy to just stop freaking out about germs and infection and get back to the days when we'd all be crowded in a line at the gas station.

But I hope the world can get back to that point and realize that we didn't just live through the zombie apocalypse but something much, much less severe than that.  As I said, I have my doubts however.

You might be (and hopefully are) right, but I have a feeling it's not going to be that easy.  In any case, all we can do is speculate since we're not there yet.

This is one really unnecessary long and boring forum post,OP.
There's no need for such grandiose thing as "Rebooting the World".When the lockdowns are over,the life will go back to normal.From my own experience I know that 98% of the people never change,so forget about "self-actualization" and other psychology terms.Most people will never find and embrace religion or philosophy 
And no,the consumer culture isn't coming to an end.This is some really bold statement.
During the lockdowns,everybody is buying food,using internet,shopping online,wasting their time consuming stuff.This is consumer behavior,right?
The consumer culture is far away from it's own Armageddon.