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October 01, 2022, 05:42:55 AM
#66
As we all know the power of money is something that cannot be underestimated, so it is impossible to give the poor the very same opportunities that someone that is rich has.
The high disparity between the rich and poor class when it comes to privileges of the rich made me vote for the poor to be better than the rich. The truth is that when given the two of them the same hash tasks, the poor will highly likely survive, while the rich might collapse/fail since they are not used to the harsh condition.

Yet, the poor would survive the good environment just like the rich. Tell me who wins? The poor of course.

I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.
Your story is touching! Can you imagine? So if they now give someone like you the privilege of the rich, would you misuse it judging from where you are coming from? The poor have been taught in a tough way, so they are better.

It couldn't be more true. Not all rich people are right and not all poor people are wrong or vice versa.
I believe some of you are not getting what the subject is all about. It is not about individuals now but the generality of what could be inferred between the poor and rich. Social media is awash with the fact that the rich are better, but I refuted it since they are not better but only privileged to be rich. So, it is not about one being better than the other in a place and the other in another place. It is all about one thing, can the rich survive what the poor are surviving? And the poor survive what the rich are surviving? You should know the answer by now.
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September 28, 2022, 11:34:35 PM
#65
Rich and poor minds will certainly distinguish behavior every day, people who think rich when they are still poor will think about developing the money they have, while rich people who think poor will act extravagantly until the money runs out and become poor.
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September 28, 2022, 11:06:09 PM
#64
I dont like joining debates about this rich and poor differences when it is in social media because there are a lot of stupid people there who don't think first before they put it in words using their keyboards. Yes, they are called the keyboard warriors to be precise. I am avoiding them for most are pessimistic ideas and you won't learn anything from them but just fuels your stress.

I like what you have done though, protecting the poor who have dreams. But there are a lot of poor people that are just too lazy about anything and are just giving up with their dreams, so they tend to just put the blame in their parents or their God.
This is case to case basis.
Because there are also rich people who won't keep their riches if they stop working. So hardwork is still necessary and once they become lazy their kingdom will fall.


It couldn't be more true. Not all rich people are right and not all poor people are wrong or vice versa. There are many poor people who are very good but do not have the opportunity to promote and express themselves, but there are also many poor people who are lazy, always blame fate, refuse to work and always complain that life is not fair. But for the rich, not everyone is born into a rich family, there are many people who have come up from poverty and they have worked while others are sleeping so they deserve to be successful. Being born in a poor family does not mean your future will be poor, everything depends on you.
This tells us like always that it does not matter how much money you have in your bank account what matters is who you are and where are you going, besides while money is without a doubt important it should not be the only way to measure success, as there are a lot of people which are incredibly rich and famous which will most likely give it all in order to have a middle class kind of life in which they were infinitely more happy.
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September 28, 2022, 09:03:06 PM
#63
I dont like joining debates about this rich and poor differences when it is in social media because there are a lot of stupid people there who don't think first before they put it in words using their keyboards. Yes, they are called the keyboard warriors to be precise. I am avoiding them for most are pessimistic ideas and you won't learn anything from them but just fuels your stress.

I like what you have done though, protecting the poor who have dreams. But there are a lot of poor people that are just too lazy about anything and are just giving up with their dreams, so they tend to just put the blame in their parents or their God.
This is case to case basis.
Because there are also rich people who won't keep their riches if they stop working. So hardwork is still necessary and once they become lazy their kingdom will fall.


It couldn't be more true. Not all rich people are right and not all poor people are wrong or vice versa. There are many poor people who are very good but do not have the opportunity to promote and express themselves, but there are also many poor people who are lazy, always blame fate, refuse to work and always complain that life is not fair. But for the rich, not everyone is born into a rich family, there are many people who have come up from poverty and they have worked while others are sleeping so they deserve to be successful. Being born in a poor family does not mean your future will be poor, everything depends on you.
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September 28, 2022, 07:02:36 PM
#62
correctly. Taking a view on an issue will be different if it is done from a different point of view. Even the thoughts of every human being are different. there are those who prefer to live simply and enjoy what is, there are also those who have big ambitions. So the views of the two are definitely different. I also don't come from a rich family. but I was taught to be grateful for what I have. and I'm not allowed to look down on anyone even if it's a small child. I also can't humble myself in front of rich people. because we are the same. many treasures and not many treasures is not a measure of a caste and degree in life. morals are very strictly taught in my family.
In this case, I quite agree with a simple mindset and be grateful for what you have, but in other respects, actually believe it or not, the fact that money and wealth clearly distinguishes castes. Social classification for now is clearly very difficult to eliminate because nowadays almost everyone is more based on wealth and throne, so caste is the determining factor.
This can be a differentiator from environmental factors and the circle of friends they have which proves that wealth and throne can distinguish caste.
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September 28, 2022, 05:59:38 PM
#61
I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.
We are on the same situation but those things didn't stop me on believing that i could be successful one day. Smiley Yes, its hard but its something that isnt impossible.
Just grind and work hard as much as you could and having or making good decisions on various situations which you do seem fit and could really be beneficial for long term.
Just dont be greedy or be harsh towards other people which it might be ending up on supporting you on what you are trying to achieve.
I know its not something simple because everyone is really thriving to have a better life.
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September 28, 2022, 04:01:21 PM
#60
^These type of things are only thought in families like us, because while we are thought that we could learn from life and be grateful and morals of our character is more important than money, people who have a lot of money and castles and yacths and whatever, teach their kid how to stay rich, and how to grow even richer, because that's what they need, if they do not teach the kid, then the kid will end up poor very quickly. That's why it matters, that's why it's such an important task.

I believe that schools should put a bit of class regarding economy as well, this way families would teach morals to their children like ours did, and schools could teach economy and there would be no information left unlearned.
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September 27, 2022, 09:41:00 PM
#59
I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.
correctly. Taking a view on an issue will be different if it is done from a different point of view. Even the thoughts of every human being are different. there are those who prefer to live simply and enjoy what is, there are also those who have big ambitions. So the views of the two are definitely different. I also don't come from a rich family. but I was taught to be grateful for what I have. and I'm not allowed to look down on anyone even if it's a small child. I also can't humble myself in front of rich people. because we are the same. many treasures and not many treasures is not a measure of a caste and degree in life. morals are very strictly taught in my family.
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September 27, 2022, 01:20:41 PM
#58
I grew up in a family that wasn't rich, and when something broke, it set us back for months, my parents are still like that unfortunately. A pipe bursts? You do not calculate it and you barely have enough to survive anyway, so you pay it but then you postpone something else, your tooth needs dentist? You pay that but then postpone something else.

For a family that had one salary from my father, and 3 people to live on it, we barely survived, thankfully it was good and we lived a good life, I have never classified myself poor or my family "poor", but we weren't rich, I can say that. That is why I can easily say  that all those "lessons" that rich people give would be from rich people perspective. Give a wealthy person 1 year to live on a salary of a delivery guy and they would go mad and would be in big debt too.
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September 26, 2022, 09:46:03 PM
#57
I dont like joining debates about this rich and poor differences when it is in social media because there are a lot of stupid people there who don't think first before they put it in words using their keyboards. Yes, they are called the keyboard warriors to be precise. I am avoiding them for most are pessimistic ideas and you won't learn anything from them but just fuels your stress.

I like what you have done though, protecting the poor who have dreams. But there are a lot of poor people that are just too lazy about anything and are just giving up with their dreams, so they tend to just put the blame in their parents or their God.
This is case to case basis.
Because there are also rich people who won't keep their riches if they stop working. So hardwork is still necessary and once they become lazy their kingdom will fall.
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September 26, 2022, 09:17:58 PM
#56
I agree with you OP. The rich are no better than the poor, they are simply more privileged.


The poor have just as much potential as the rich, but they are not given the same opportunities or resources. This is why it is so important to fight for social and economic justice. The poor deserve to have the same opportunities as the rich, and they should be able to use their talents and abilities to improve their lives and make a better future for themselves and their families.

Poors will always behind the 8 ball, trying to catch up with the rich. Only if we weren't taught to strive for that green as our goal in one life we have.
As we all know the power of money is something that cannot be underestimated, so it is impossible to give the poor the very same opportunities that someone that is rich has.

However what we need to strive to do is to give the poor enough opportunities so they have a chance to improve their lives, and at least in my opinion all of this begins with education, that way those which are born poor will have a chance to improve their living standards, and if they are lucky maybe they could become rich themselves
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September 25, 2022, 05:35:43 PM
#55
I agree with you OP. The rich are no better than the poor, they are simply more privileged.


The poor have just as much potential as the rich, but they are not given the same opportunities or resources. This is why it is so important to fight for social and economic justice. The poor deserve to have the same opportunities as the rich, and they should be able to use their talents and abilities to improve their lives and make a better future for themselves and their families.

Poors will always behind the 8 ball, trying to catch up with the rich. Only if we weren't taught to strive for that green as our goal in one life we have.
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September 25, 2022, 08:15:50 AM
#54
Mental poverty breeds poverty in everything - income, life, education. No offense. The poor have many complexes, and most importantly, they are afraid to admit them and are afraid to try to solve the problem. This is precisely the result of mental poverty. It breeds fears, cowardice, insecurity, decadent concepts, greed, as well as envy and hatred towards the more successful. With such a "baggage" of problems and complexes, it is impossible to change your life.
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September 25, 2022, 04:40:13 AM
#53
Rich minds are definitely the healthy minds they focus on having money this way or the other.
But the money earned with honesty stays - if you earn money by ill way - you would end up in disaster. Karma hits back!
Maybe it depends on how everyone will think about how to earn money. Everyone, rich or poor, will try to get money. But some people can't keep their money well and instead use it to get the pleasure they don't really need. If you try to change your life by doing something that can help you earn money, one day, you will see what you are trying to do will work. Maybe changing the mindset must be done immediately and doing good ways will help you get something good too.
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September 25, 2022, 03:05:04 AM
#52
mindset and life circumstances are two different things. I don't know what the OP meant. but I think this topic is more suitable for Rich living conditions and poor living conditions. and the points written by the OP are mostly in accordance with the realities of life taken from the living conditions of the rich and the living conditions of the poor. but if it's about mindset. so the mindset is sometimes different from the circumstances of a person's life. Many people with living conditions are rich (affluent) but have a poor mindset. for example they are rich people who are stingy who do not want to share with others. poor mindset can also be interpreted as a narrow mindset (narrowness of a thought). and conversely there are many people who have a poor background or live in a poor condition, but they have a rich mindset (having rich thoughts / not narrow thoughts / open and broad thoughts). usually people with rich thoughts can always think wisely because they have a broad view. so do not be surprised if many important figures who come from among people with a state of complete deprivation (poor). but they can change their standard of living for the better.

and we also meet many celebrities who come from among the poor. but they are never poor in mindset. such as Shania twain, Jay z , Celine Dion, Demi Moore, Jim Carrey, J.K Rowling (writer), Oprah Winfrey and many more.

Many great people who come from among the poor. they become great because they have a rich mindset or a broad mindset. they don't give up on the situation. then we should not underestimate the poor. because sometimes a crisis or critical situation can make a person think outside the normal mind (out of the box). so do not be surprised if any of the inventors came from among the poor people of origin. hopefully we have a rich mindset / broad mindset / wise.

so a rich mindset and a poor mindset can be born from all walks of life. both the rich and the poor. everyone can have this mindset. but indeed sometimes opportunities are always wider for rich people. because sometimes they have extensive connections with various circles.
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September 24, 2022, 06:52:26 PM
#51
Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.

Rich mindset would really be something like this always which its definitely that on point because you cant really make more money if you wont really be risking some money which is really just a basic
concept of having investment through businesses and other assets that you are tending to own.

If you do make yourself having no goals or targets in life then you would really be just making yourself remain into that poor state or life status which its never
been that appealing to have specially when you are struggling on just surviving on your daily living.
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September 19, 2022, 11:57:03 PM
#50
And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.
However, in reality, not all rich people do the same behavior. Only those rich people who care about others' feelings and they have good characteristics, who have that behavior you stated above. Fundamentally, it all depends on the personality of each. For those people who don't care about others, boasting is something usual to them, they sometimes show up their own achievements to others. Good rich people commonly are the people who are religious and probably have good nature since they were kids.


There is a proverb that states "if you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power" and if we are honest about this very few people can manage that influx of sudden power and they will go crazy about it.

Only those which know exactly who they are and what they want out of life will be able to manage that power responsibly, and those are the ones that not only become rich but keep themselves being rich, as they can avoid most of the pitfalls in which rich people fall.
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September 19, 2022, 06:28:36 PM
#49
I won't categorize the two classes opposite each other and try to compare them! No that is not what I will do, but the place of personality and desires is what makes the difference between the rich and the poor and even the average class

I wouldn't say anyone is born poor since we are born with the same brain capacity and 24/7 time allocated to everyone but what you do with this feature is what determines the direction your life will go let me not also dive into motivation speaking but being realistic here, anyone can become rich or poor it depends on the actions and inactions.

One may not be born with a silver spoon but one can create or buy his silver spoon, what that means is that your birthplace and position can be a foundation of your existence that but don't determine the direction your whole life will go.

So in conclusion what becomes of your life is not a question of where or the class you are born into, but what you do with the resource that is in your hand which is TIME.

If you invest your time into meaningful things such as education, skills, and management you can escape whatever limitations that you may have been born with and the same goes for those who are born rich of there is no proper management they can still become poor so it all depends on the individual mindset.
Rich minds are mostly healthy mind
they are busy working to grow themself - on the other hand poor maid need to reduce the burden out and indulge themselves in productive activites
You wont really be making yourself that rich if you arent going to do hard work plus having that wise mindset when it comes to investment or any other possible source of income that you should really be able to achieve or attain so that you would really be making your life way more better in terms of finances but if you are a certain type of person who do just simply contented on what you do have and dont have any goals or targets in life then you would definitely be staying up on being poor for the rest of your life this is why it does really depend on a particular person whether he would really be doing such stuff
or would be simply be skipping out and wouldnt really do any hardwork for you to make some improvement on your life.
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September 19, 2022, 12:46:40 AM
#48
I won't categorize the two classes opposite each other and try to compare them! No that is not what I will do, but the place of personality and desires is what makes the difference between the rich and the poor and even the average class

I wouldn't say anyone is born poor since we are born with the same brain capacity and 24/7 time allocated to everyone but what you do with this feature is what determines the direction your life will go let me not also dive into motivation speaking but being realistic here, anyone can become rich or poor it depends on the actions and inactions.

One may not be born with a silver spoon but one can create or buy his silver spoon, what that means is that your birthplace and position can be a foundation of your existence that but don't determine the direction your whole life will go.

So in conclusion what becomes of your life is not a question of where or the class you are born into, but what you do with the resource that is in your hand which is TIME.

If you invest your time into meaningful things such as education, skills, and management you can escape whatever limitations that you may have been born with and the same goes for those who are born rich of there is no proper management they can still become poor so it all depends on the individual mindset.
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September 18, 2022, 07:00:25 PM
#47
Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.
The rich people make money from money directly. On the contrary, poor people (as my own experience), use the money to be able to eat and then use the energy to make money again, and the cycle is going on  Grin

Your point: Rich people spend on necessities and what is needed not what is desired.
My opinion: The poor people are more prudent than the rich because they have limited resources.
Sometimes not because of wisdom, but because of compulsion to limit what you want to buy. What the poor have in mind is being able to buy what they need at a minimum, at least the essentials, such as food, and the immediate primary needs. Meanwhile, rich people sometimes buy things not because of need, but just because they want or because of their environment or social surroundings...
Rich minds are definitely the healthy minds they focus on having money this way or the other.
But the money earned with honesty stays - if you earn money by ill way - you would end up in disaster. Karma hits back!
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