Rebuttal: Rich Mindset vs Poor Mindset - page 3.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 12, 2022, 10:31:55 AM

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.

The rich people make money from money directly. On the contrary, poor people (as my own experience), use the money to be able to eat and then use the energy to make money again, and the cycle is going on Grin

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 12, 2022, 10:31:55 AM

Your point: Rich people spend on necessities and what is needed not what is desired.
My opinion: The poor people are more prudent than the rich because they have limited resources.

Sometimes not because of wisdom, but because of compulsion to limit what you want to buy. What the poor have in mind is being able to buy what they need at a minimum, at least the essentials, such as food, and the immediate primary needs. Meanwhile, rich people sometimes buy things not because of need, but just because they want or because of their environment or social surroundings...

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 14, 2022, 02:26:47 PM

And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.

However, in reality, not all rich people do the same behavior. Only those rich people who care about others' feelings and they have good characteristics, who have that behavior you stated above. Fundamentally, it all depends on the personality of each. For those people who don't care about others, boasting is something usual to them, they sometimes show up their own achievements to others. Good rich people commonly are the people who are religious and probably have good nature since they were kids.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on September 12, 2022, 10:45:54 AM

Getting rich is not luck, or is barely 5% luck. There are lots of mindset and character factors that go into play. We shouldn't downplay that, to try to make some demographic or ourselves feel better.

I can say they are lucky if in fact they are the children of rich fathers. They are heirs who will become rich after getting the inheritance from their parents. While other people have to try to raise more money from various jobs, they have to go through a long process although not all of them get rich in the end. Getting rich is not an option, it is the result of hard work and a process that a person goes through.

That's the terrible thing about being rich, if you are rich and do not have the rich mindset then it is only a matter of time before you become poor again. I believe that the best thing you could do would be making sure that you invest into a bigger thing and bigger thing and bigger thing to keep growing.

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

Usually if a rich person becomes rich because he struggles with his own abilities, where he started from the bottom and did not get his wealth
instantly, then the rich person would last a long time, because it must have the right mindset to be rich. Whereas if there are people who are rich
just because they won the lottery or got an inheritance from their parents, it is certain that the wealth that is obtained instantly will quickly
run out, because these people have the wrong mindset. So if we want to be rich, we must start by changing our mindset first, after that getting
rich is only a matter of time. Therefore, where we are now facing an economic crisis, where almost all basic needs are increasing, if we have
the mindset of a rich person, I believe that we can continue to improve the economy even in a bad economic situation. Because the mindset of
the rich will find a way to continue to increase profits.

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Quote from: justdimin on September 15, 2022, 04:03:23 PM

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

You are right but certain things can be happening in your economy you can not help yourself but to stay and watch things the way they choose to become. For example, if you find yourself in an economy where there is high rate of inflation, unemployment, and high level of corruption, not forgetting that fiat currency is the only accepted currency in your economy and the value keeps goingg down every day, what are the possible means to escape poverty in such economy knowing too well that things are not going well and people are scared of investment due to the high rate of corruption in the economy how? Most times the plan B doesn't have the solution to the problems because once the economy of a country is bad everything goes bad with it.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on September 13, 2022, 06:44:30 AM

Quote from: Upgrade00 on September 12, 2022, 10:45:54 AM

Getting rich is not luck, or is barely 5% luck. There are lots of mindset and character factors that go into play. We shouldn't downplay that, to try to make some demographic or ourselves feel better.

I can say they are lucky if in fact they are the children of rich fathers. They are heirs who will become rich after getting the inheritance from their parents. While other people have to try to raise more money from various jobs, they have to go through a long process although not all of them get rich in the end. Getting rich is not an option, it is the result of hard work and a process that a person goes through.

That's the terrible thing about being rich, if you are rich and do not have the rich mindset then it is only a matter of time before you become poor again. I believe that the best thing you could do would be making sure that you invest into a bigger thing and bigger thing and bigger thing to keep growing.

If you stay the same while the economy is going worse then you will be the same amount of wealth whereas fiat will be less valuable and your money will be gone for sure. You should be trying to make more and more profit and have business' making you more and more money. That way even if the economy goes bad, you would have a plan B that can get you profits one way or another.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on September 14, 2022, 05:34:29 PM

Changing the concept of thinking is something very difficult. that's why sometimes rich people stay rich. and poor people remain poor

you're right, it's very difficult but the reality is that if there must indeed be a change to occur it has to take a lot of efforts, thinking and setting right the mindset, everyone wants to get rich but don't want to adapt to a change.

Quote from: Jatiluhung on September 14, 2022, 05:34:29 PM

the rich stay rich because their environment encourages them and is taught to think smart.

what it takes to be rich is more as well to what it takes to maintain the riches, and to say the reality no one will taste being rich and wanted to go back to poverty and this would have been the worst ever situation that would have been better not to have ever been rich than having the taste of riches and go back being poor.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on September 14, 2022, 04:08:04 PM

A rich man will always want to be rich and the poor also to get rich, which means everyone has the urge to amass wealth of riches, but what are the requirements for achieving this altogether, the answer is paying the price of what it takes to be rich which start right from the mindset, mentality of the poor and the mindset of the rich are two different things, and unless the poor change it orientation on how he approach being rich he may never know the secret behind it and not until he change his mentality to think as the rich people do, he may continue to thirst for that over time with nothing changed, it's not easy to have a change in status because it takes a lot in demand for it to occur, but are the poor ready to pay the price of what it takes?.

Changing the concept of thinking is something very difficult. that's why sometimes rich people stay rich. and poor people remain poor. it is caused by the difficulty of changing the mindset. mindset and desire are different things. Poor people always dream of being rich. but very few of them are taking steps to make it happen. The first step that can be taken is to change the mindset. then change attitudes and self-discipline. and the rich stay rich because their environment encourages them and is taught to think smart. I see a lot of rich parents leave their children on their own. even though rich parents can really pamper their children. but they didn't. because they know that their children must continue the family business. then the first thing they do is mental education for their children. so that one day it is ready to take over the family company. but we also see a lot of rich people who have poor thoughts. they are usually rich parents always spoil their children excessively. and they are people who tend to feel less with what they have. they seemed to be constantly thirsty and drinking water could not quench their thirst.

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I don't wanna crucify the poor either as they also have their own mindset as to why the remain in that status of financial living. The path to becoming rich from the scratch was never easy. Not unless if you're born rich.
Everyone wants to be rich, but there are a lot of factors why we are divided into different social stratification.
We all have different mindset, skills, and emotions towards success or failure. Some are afraid of failure, so they keep their feet on the safer side.

That's why i don't usually listen to these motivational speakers. They put so much vindication on the poor. After all they're also after the money and they're only using their audience as an instrument to make more money.

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A rich man will always want to be rich and the poor also to get rich, which means everyone has the urge to amass wealth of riches, but what are the requirements for achieving this altogether, the answer is paying the price of what it takes to be rich which start right from the mindset, mentality of the poor and the mindset of the rich are two different things, and unless the poor change it orientation on how he approach being rich he may never know the secret behind it and not until he change his mentality to think as the rich people do, he may continue to thirst for that over time with nothing changed, it's not easy to have a change in status because it takes a lot in demand for it to occur, but are the poor ready to pay the price of what it takes?.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 13, 2022, 12:03:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 13, 2022, 03:55:08 AM

I know that there's a huge gap and belief between poor and rich mindsets. But what I've come to realize is that when you're in a better state and you're already rich, you tend to belittle those people that are in an unfortunate situation. They may also have the same thinking as you as a successful person but they can't just turn themselves into that one because of what they're facing. It's true that poor people are less privileged but it doesn't mean that they've got poor mindsets too.

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

And that's what I admire from those rich people, those that are very humble and know where to stand based on the status of the person to whom they're talking.
They're not boasters and they understand the importance of how to talk property when they've got everything and still being calm at the same time.

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Quote from: Uang_kartal on September 13, 2022, 08:01:11 PM

that is a constructive mindset, if so maybe the standard of living is better than some of the poorest minorities, what you mention is the middle class who can afford to buy and earn even though it's small. the middle class] is certainly not always the case.
if someone gives you information that is not the same as your Q n A, it may be that they are concerned with lifestyle and do not count expenses, again depending on the character and habits without realizing that doing what you say will create a culture of good habits, leading to prosperity

If I personally see it as an additional suggestion that still needs to be considered before implementing it even though it will create a culture of good habits and also lead to prosperity as desired. But again it's about individual decisions because everyone's abilities and the problems that everyone faces in life are always different. So that there is nothing to compare and yes as you said that those who are in the middle class level are those who can afford to buy even if only for a very small profit

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that is a constructive mindset, if so maybe the standard of living is better than some of the poorest minorities, what you mention is the middle class who can afford to buy and earn even though it's small. the middle class] is certainly not always the case.
if someone gives you information that is not the same as your Q n A, it may be that they are concerned with lifestyle and do not count expenses, again depending on the character and habits without realizing that doing what you say will create a culture of good habits, leading to prosperity

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Maybe because they are lucky to be rich, they can do much, especially to increase the amount of money. In contrast, poor people do not have much money so they can not do much. But if we talk about cryptocurrency, I think everyone who joins cryptocurrency has the same rights because if they have the right coins as their investment, they can get big profits in the future. And it depends on how strong they can survive and hold their coins until the price can go up high.

And if you compare the rich and the poor out there, the gap is so clear that many poor people cannot become rich and even if they do become rich, they are very lucky and only a few can get it.

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Quote from: arwin100 on September 13, 2022, 10:50:10 AM

Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept the other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

When it comes to opinion and sentiments or other comments then there's no wrong or right because we do have our own ways and methods on making a living.Progress and success will really vary on how hard you do
work and how smart you do deal up with things and making up wise decisions which would really cause whether you would really make yourself successful or not but of course it does really mix up with some sort
of luck and perseverance at the same time.
Lets just accept that there are things in life which isnt provided which make more things to be more hard to achieve goals.Just do the usual stuff and stick with your own
goals and targets in life.Its impossible that each person doesnt have.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 13, 2022, 12:03:00 PM

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

Life is hard bro, the weak will get weaker and the strong will get stronger. I saw a lot of social experiments on youtube, not many people want to help poor people with their dirty clothes on the streets, they are just ignored so I can conclude that the social gap between poor and rich people is very much different.

I'm not going to talk far, we can see it all around us. Good economic conditions will support many things including knowledge and smooth business, but when their economic conditions are low then knowledge is the last reason why they are successful.

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Quote from: arwin100 on September 13, 2022, 10:50:10 AM

Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

Rich people are more privileged but than poor people but that doesn't mean that we should stop striving since that's the given fact. We can still change our path by setting goals and reaching them by being motivated to get out of the yolk of poverty. Rich people might always have an edge but poor people could also have a positive mindset to reach the same success. Our life is what we make it and if we were born as poor and remained poor until we get older, I think we lack hard work and perseverance.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 13, 2022, 03:55:08 AM

I know that there's a huge gap and belief between poor and rich mindsets. But what I've come to realize is that when you're in a better state and you're already rich, you tend to belittle those people that are in an unfortunate situation. They may also have the same thinking as you as a successful person but they can't just turn themselves into that one because of what they're facing. It's true that poor people are less privileged but it doesn't mean that they've got poor mindsets too.

If there's one factor which makes the gap far between the rich and the poor then that would be money and not mindset. Like you and the op said, many poor people doesn't have a poor mindset but they only lack of resources to get to the position that they want to. Also, not all rich belittle's the poor but there are rich people who are very humble as some of these rich do also came from a poor family before but they grind hard only to get on the place they have now. They know how hard it was to become a poor person, that is why they don't underestimate them but they try to help them instead and encourage the poor to not lose hope.

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Some people work hard and believe that they will succed, some people just make others work hard and succed. It's as simple as that. Work hard to fulfill your own dreams else you will have to work hard to fulfill someone else's dream.

You're right, live itself it's a kind of mentality in which we all developed to it's approach and that determines the results and level of how much we can go far in it, you can't expect someone whose mindset is like that of a grasshopper to develop a giant achievements and obtain a high pinnacle of success except by luck, that's why you discover that most people that work hard in physical labor engage in getting less reward unlike those who uses their brain and knowledgeable skill in working less hard but achieving good results with income, this is a factor of individual mentality to how and what we see in live, coupled with the way we administer those live situations into our practical lives.

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Cannot expect for people to agree on any ideas given about rich and poor mindset because everyone has different meaning towards what they believe people think about that discussion. But what most important think about this is what you believe and if some of your explanation can motivate you towards what you are doing to get rich then its good and lets accept the other people's opinion since they are also right base on their opinion.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on September 12, 2022, 10:31:55 AM

Your point: The rich believe that money makes money.
My opinion: The poor also believe so, but they are not privileged.

When I started reading, I knew I was going to find this kind of garbage somewhere.

I don't know where you live but if you live in a developed country you live where there has been more social mobility and less privileges in the history of mankind. And if you live in a poor country not so much but almost, because if you think that the rich have privileges nowadays I would like you to take a walk in the Middle Ages to be working from sunrise to sunset for a feudal lord and you had just enough to eat not to die and continue working but suffering from malnutrition.

That's not to mention the droit du seigneur that certain feudal lords had over the peasants, which consisted in that when your daughters reached fertile age, about 13 or 14 years old, the feudal lord would deflower them.

What happens is that there is a lot of junk propaganda that wants to convince people that the world is worse than ever and that the solution is going to be brought by a politician through taxes and regulations. The bad thing is that the message gets through.

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