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legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below).
Not bad, I'm taking spots #4 and #5. The first 2 are Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion regulars, I can't beat those Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 10758
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
Edit: Data updated as of 26/04/2019.

I was asked recently if I had any update on the merit streaks, and the truth is I had not taken a look into it since I created the OP back in August 2018. I’ve now updated the OP in this thread with the current awarded merit streaks, and while being at it, added it to the Merit Dashboard (last tab called "Received Merit Streaks"). On the Merit Dashboard you can easily filter by user or section/subsection to see all the received merit streaks.

Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below).
 
Who holds that record now? (see the OP).
full member
Activity: 346
Merit: 102
~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.

Unfortunately, this is a big problem for many Newbie and Jr.M. they come to the forum only for one purpose, to make money. And they don't understand why it need SMerit. Many people do not understand the obvious ethical norms. Not only on this forum, on any other forum the same rules, there is ethics and respect for others. There is such a thing as authority. Here, for example, DdmrDdmr has crazy authority among the members of this forum (in my eyes exactly). He really does a great job of improving the merit system. He is one of the few who pursues the goal of not money and not earning on ICO in bounty companies. It aims to help other participants. That is precisely the merit. Merit is the authority on the forum. And beginners don't understand it, unfortunately.
P.s.Sorry I didn't name another participant, I just gave an example, in the context of the conversation.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.
newbie
Activity: 140
Merit: 0
~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 10758
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
<...>I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.
That is not the best choice of words as a presentation card on Meta. I’d suggest you read through Meta for some days before pulling the trigger on the keyboard...
 
newbie
Activity: 140
Merit: 0
Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 10758
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
You can take a look at the Merit Dashboard. Specifically, you can focus on:

a)   The tab labelled “Section Subsection”:

The graphic on the right gives you the merit awarded by subsection both numerically and as a percentage of the total awarded merit.
By default, the data shown covers all time since Merit System kick-off, so you may want to concentrate on a specific month since percentage distribution to subsections varies overtime.

For example, Ann Altcoin is the most merited subsection (26.437 sMerits, which is 12,23% of all awarded sMerits). Nevertheless, if you narrow it down to August 2018 (with the dropdown box on the right of the screen), Ann Altcoin goes down to 7,17% of total awarded sMerit for the month. That section is on the drop, as there is so much spam there that I figure ordinary merit is not too high and Merit Sources do not sway there often, being it difficult to find anything good amongst all the spam.
Meta on the other hand has risen it’s share over time (most merited during August with a 13,41% share, but a 9,51% overall).

Meta is certainly not the only merited section, but it is likely the most spam-free of all, with rather decent conversations going. If you don’t want to read spam all day long, Meta and Bitcoin technical sections are the cleanest from a spam point of view I’d say.

b)   The “Rankings” tab:

This may be interesting to see, as you can get an idea of which are the top merited threads here (third data set block columns). You can filter the data to a specific date range with the slider on the Date Filter at the top (or click the dates on the extremes of the slider and enter them there).
Again, by default we see the most merited since Merit System started, but applying the date filter changes the view quite a bit.   

Wall Observer thread is an ecosystem of its own, and is always at the top of the list (it is also behind on its own of the majority of sMerit in the Economics subsection).
‘Deleted’ are cases of merit assigned to posts that are later deleted for multiple reasons, and add-up to a fair share.

You can also filter by subsection at the top of this tab, to narrow down the data to a specific forum subsection.

Note: I created a post on the matter in May 2018 ( Forum Metrics - Section/subsection sMerit breakdown in detail), but as I said, the distribution of sMerit per subsection evolves over time, so the Dashboard allows us to have a view that we can follow dynamically with weekly updates).

legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 3098
Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 4842
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I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.


I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree.

Precisely, stating a premise and forming an argument to support that is the basis of critical thinking.


I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately.
On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.

That can be a conundrum.

I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.

There needs to be a small amount distributed to the leveled accounts each month just to have a few available for outstanding posts. I have tried to spend Mine wisely And I am now under 10. I need to PM Maxwell and tell him to send some back! Lol, I felt his account was sorely unappreciated in the merit Dept. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 10758
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
<…> And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in! <…>
@nullius gained 12 sMerits during August, so even now the user account is still being merited. @satoshi gained 80 sMerits during the same period of time, so there’s probably another (deserved) record: max. merits received during August without logging in…

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<…> Could this be due to merit trading? Say someone buys 10 Merit to become Member, and receives them on a few different days to avoid detection? To test this hypothesis: can you add a line to the table (number 4.) for Members who received exactly 10, 11 or 12 Merit? <…>
The thing is that streaks only consider consecutive days, and I’m only displaying the Max. Streak (which is a partial view of all the user’s received sMerits). The more elaborate cases would do it over different days I guess, and non-consecutive while being at it. I do suspect the Members rank has a fair share of Merit abuse/purchase though, since the number of merits is the lowest requirement of all mid-high ranks.

The following list is derived from the Table number 4’s underlying data:
Code:
ndays nmerit nUsers
1 1 1569
1 2 442
1 3 154
1 4 108
1 5 231
1 6 49
1 7 37
1 8 36
1 9 34
1 10 559
1 11 18
1 12 19
1 13 5
1 14 8
1 15 8
1 16 1
1 17 1
1 18 4
1 19 2
1 20 18
1 21 2
1 22 4
1 23 1
1 24 2
1 25 5
1 27 2
1 28 1
1 29 1
1 30 7
1 31 1
1 32 2
1 35 1
1 36 1
1 40 4
1 42 1
1 44 1
1 45 1
1 48 1
1 50 16
1 56 1
1 76 1
1 84 1
1 103 1
2 2 188
2 3 154
2 4 105
2 5 64
2 6 83
2 7 62
2 8 44
2 9 30
2 10 125
2 11 21
2 12 13
2 13 6
2 14 2
2 15 5
2 16 2
2 17 5
2 18 2
2 19 1
2 20 3
2 21 2
2 22 2
2 23 1
2 24 1
2 26 1
2 29 2
2 30 2
2 33 1
2 39 1
2 40 3
2 50 1
2 51 1
2 54 1
2 60 2
2 76 1
3 3 31
3 4 44
3 5 27
3 6 40
3 7 23
3 8 27
3 9 14
3 10 47
3 11 7
3 12 6
3 13 7
3 14 1
3 15 3
3 16 2
3 17 1
3 19 2
3 20 3
3 21 1
3 22 1
3 24 1
3 28 1
3 36 1
3 40 1
3 46 1
3 61 1
3 70 1
4 4 2
4 5 2
4 6 8
4 7 8
4 8 10
4 9 7
4 10 18
4 11 7
4 12 4
4 13 5
4 14 1
4 15 7
4 17 2
4 18 2
4 19 2
4 20 1
4 22 1
4 23 1
4 26 1
4 28 1
4 35 1
4 36 1
5 5 1
5 6 1
5 7 3
5 8 2
5 9 4
5 10 1
5 11 6
5 12 2
5 13 2
5 15 1
5 16 1
5 19 2
5 21 1
5 22 1
5 28 1
5 50 1
6 8 1
6 9 2
6 13 1
6 15 1
6 27 1
6 32 1
7 10 1
7 12 1
7 19 1
7 20 1
8 26 1
8 28 1
8 43 1
9 29 1
12 33 1
I prefer adding the list than modifying table number 4 (it is less cumbersome as a list and we can see a bit more).

What does stand out is the following:
-   Most 1 day streaks involve 1 or 2 merits, decreasing progressively the number of people that get a larger sum of merits (logical).
-   Nevertheless, for the 1 day streak, the peak at 10 merits (559 people) is noticeable in comparison to the 9 merits (34 people), 11 merits (18 people) and 12 merits (19 people).
-   This happens again with those that received 10 sMerits on a 2 day streak (compared to 9 and 11 merits, although less noticeable.


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This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days Cheesy
True,  but you wouldn’t really consider it unless you were aware of the existence of streak records … I guess the OP lists are the purest we can get, without any awareness of the streak records.
They’re there basically for fun, as a curiosity, but they do show how it does get increasingly more difficult for people to being merited various days in a row.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 326
Politeness: 1227: - 0 / +1
I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.

Back to the discussion,
You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better.
Well, I guess it's too difficult to be one of these members who were listed but it's worth a try to do everything just to be included. Hmm but no luck for me to be one.


I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.
That's true, that's why it is much better to Merit a post immediately when you saw a deserving one than to give it later because you won't be able to see that post again unless you dig those shitposts until you see the buried good post. This happens a lot in our local board and not just there, I can't believe why good discussions are always getting covered up by shits instantly. Maybe spammers really love shit discussions?

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If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember,

Agree, since I have limited sMerits to give, I think it's just fine to give/distribute merit one per posts. It's still worth it.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Nullius has the longest streak to date, having received sMerit for 31 days in a row, totalling 518 sMerits during that streak. LoyceV falls short by only 4 days, having a streak of 27 days
And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in!

Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those Wink
You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better.

I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently
Thanks for the confidence, but it's unlikely to happen. My second longest streak was in August, and reached only 15 days. I don't think it's very likely to reach 27 again, let alone 31. Unless the total Merit distribution and thus the chance of each post to receive Merit goes up significantly.

C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed  Grin.
I'm confused, are you merit begging your Global Moderator alt? Lol Cheesy

I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately.
On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.


This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days Cheesy
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 28

I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.


I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree.
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 3029
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Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous. Smiley

Not necessarily. I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately. I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.

And memes can be both funny and constructive. At least they lighten this place up a bit. I'd much rather merit a meme that a one-liner (especially if they've actually edited/customised the meme to be relevant).


Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity.

This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts.

Yeah. Neither of these things require much effort from theymos, he just needs to actually implment them and let staff handle the rest.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 2444
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If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three  at a time often that leaves little merit to send on.

I agree, but my point was that by making it hard for merit sources to find meritable posts, you deprive those who would have received merits of the chance to award them. sMerit awards have half lives as you know, and this means that every sMerit awarded by a merit source adds virtually one more merit for the community to award. It's even worse than that, because if a merit source ends the day with some unawarded sMerits, then the replacement of those is delayed by a day. I've tried to make spammers aware that their activities reduce the number of sMerit available for their associates as well as themselves. However, they don't seem to get the message.
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 4842
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Interesting info. Thanks for compiling it.

Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. Hilariousetc and xtraelv were on an on-going streak at the time of data extraction, and really have a +2 days and +1 additional streak length looking over their merit this week.



And I've yet to receive a single merit today despite making some quality shit. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed  Grin.

Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done.

Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous. Smiley


Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity.
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This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts.
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 3029
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I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.

I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue.

If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three  at a time often that leaves little merit to send on.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 2444
https://JetCash.com

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.

I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue.
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