I agree with you that no one will listen to the advice of an insane person, be it a odds on some events, or other advice that they can give. Insane people are not as rare as you think, but few people want to deal with them, let alone listen to their advice.
That's true, people normally believes that insane people don't have any important advice to say to others. But here in most places in Africa, some people thinks that they are kind of possess and can see what those with clear eyes can not see. Actually, I do not believe in such things either, what you said is correct, that no one will ever listen to an insane person, and I am among those that will not listen to an insane person. However, dealing with an insane person means that you are also mentally unstable. 
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I do not really have any clues if such topic or discussion already exist before and if there is any discussion of such nature before then you can call my attention to it. Although it is something that I feel we should discuss about with we hearing our opinion and experience and how the result was like if we have ever encountered such before.
I have heard many stories and people talking about getting game odds from unknown insane(mad) people and some say they get it from the ones they know and in some cases, the games turns out to be real with lots of testimonies. I personally have a friend who told me same thing too that there was a guy that lives within their street who got odds from an insane man close to a junction when he was about to board a cab. He said his friend was just passing by when the insane man stopped him and told him to check out the odds and he was very confused, furious and a bit angered but he too has heard things of that nature so he controlled himself and collected it, he played it and won a good amount of money. Winning such, he went scouting for the insane man so he could be able to reciprocate the goodwill but he could not see the man and he asked people around there and they told him that they've not seen the man for some days and he was told that the insane man has been there for some days before the occurrence but after their encounter that day he was no where to be found around that area.
I was wondering if any member here has had such experience before or they know somebody who has had such as well because to me it looks like something beyond the ordinary, it is unexplainable how an insane man would give odds to somebody to play and in some cases, they are unknown within the premises or environment were they have encounter and the odds turns out to be a good one. Sometimes people tell about being given odds in the dream to play and they do which turns out to a good one for them and all these keeps making me curious about these scenarios if it is ordinary or not, coupled with the superstitious believe and lots of other things they say.
I have heard many stories and people talking about getting game odds from unknown insane(mad) people and some say they get it from the ones they know and in some cases, the games turns out to be real with lots of testimonies. I personally have a friend who told me same thing too that there was a guy that lives within their street who got odds from an insane man close to a junction when he was about to board a cab. He said his friend was just passing by when the insane man stopped him and told him to check out the odds and he was very confused, furious and a bit angered but he too has heard things of that nature so he controlled himself and collected it, he played it and won a good amount of money. Winning such, he went scouting for the insane man so he could be able to reciprocate the goodwill but he could not see the man and he asked people around there and they told him that they've not seen the man for some days and he was told that the insane man has been there for some days before the occurrence but after their encounter that day he was no where to be found around that area.
I was wondering if any member here has had such experience before or they know somebody who has had such as well because to me it looks like something beyond the ordinary, it is unexplainable how an insane man would give odds to somebody to play and in some cases, they are unknown within the premises or environment were they have encounter and the odds turns out to be a good one. Sometimes people tell about being given odds in the dream to play and they do which turns out to a good one for them and all these keeps making me curious about these scenarios if it is ordinary or not, coupled with the superstitious believe and lots of other things they say.
There is someone at my church that told me of their old preacher up in NY that would use the numbers of the bible verses she discussed in order and they kept winning the lottery. It became such a problem that some people were going to church just to get the numbers from the sermon for gambling purposes in hopes that they would win. I found that story very insane odds as well. This story sounds very strange the one you speak of, but a dream having this type of occurence I would think its much more common compared to the insane man.
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. Very funny though. I read about your church and sermon to be a lottery odds which sounds funny 🤣. Well I really can not doubt because most times the smallest things we ignore somehow has a way of making a great turn around and such is the case.People would tend to go to such church if such exist because of the possibility of getting odds which they would benefit from and the day they stop getting odds through sermon, that day they stop from going to church because they would feel their pastor does not want them to win lottery again which is not the right thing.
This is a complete hokum which I don’t know if the OP itself improvised or his source since there’s no way an insane person can be updated on an odds offered by a sportsbook or whatever betting type they are referring on this context.
What is so hard to believe is a random man at street giving odds that actually without any material or sources as reference for their bets and just complete random out of nowhere.
I will believe if this is a simple lotto numbers but an betting odds is already hard to believe.
You would have said you have never seen it happen before. But it doesn't mean that other people have not experienced it. There might be experienced gamblers who are having mental issues. These set of people might still have experience in gambling and can give out odds. But the general belief is that they possess some powers that make them predict games accurately. What is so hard to believe is a random man at street giving odds that actually without any material or sources as reference for their bets and just complete random out of nowhere.
I will believe if this is a simple lotto numbers but an betting odds is already hard to believe.
probably many gamblers experience mental issues, that's just sad, of course.
gambling is highly addictive, I'd say that it's not for the weak of heart
but the paradox is that it really attracts those more interested in making it big, fast.
Maybe to make it in gambling it is a bit like the cave on Alladin, you have to have a pure heart to go in and get out alive.
It does not work like that, not in all conditions can we tend to rely on information from a lunatic person and gamble with it, this is an occurrence that even rarely happen, when last have you seen a mad man, not to talk of one giving you game codes, all these are not what we should focus on being a serious gambler, there is no time to waste on waiting for when such opportunity may come, while we are not even sure if it will be a genuine, one, gamble for fun and leave the rest if you cant afford the loss.
I tried several times to understand the essence of the topic title, but it doesn't make any common sense. Or maybe it meant something different than how it looks. I agree with you that no one will listen to the advice of an insane person, be it a odds on some events, or other advice that they can give. Insane people are not as rare as you think, but few people want to deal with them, let alone listen to their advice.legendary
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Because beginner or someone who is really obsessed with achieving big win doesn't care about anything, when they see channel or platform for predictions and betting strategies, they will be tempted and try to use it, especially when in the first attempt they win, they will be even crazier to use all these channels until they really spend all their money.
It just that instead of paying money to get predictions from prediction channels, it better to use them to bet directly with own predictions and that will give us experience and learn to be able to analyze personally without relying on such prediction places.
It just that instead of paying money to get predictions from prediction channels, it better to use them to bet directly with own predictions and that will give us experience and learn to be able to analyze personally without relying on such prediction places.
So, what is the profit of someone paying for prediction and still end up to lose the money they used in Staking on the game, is that not a double lose? If perhaps they paid to receive a prediction from those group and at the end of the day the bet ends up going against their prediction, he or she will also lose the money they was used in staking on the game. That's one major reason why I will not even try to advice any one to do that.
Forcasters, or anyone who is believed to have some gift of being able to predict outcomes or events, usually will give you a game prediction when you go to them, they won't take a dime from you as a fee at that very moment, so you have to go and play the game with any amount of money you believe is OK depending on your convictions for the game.
If and when it turned out that the game was a win, there is an agreed percentage of the winning amount you will give to the Forcaster as his fee, it usually ranges from 5 to 10 percent of the totally winning, while you keep 95 to 90 percent of the money.
This strategy helps the gambler not to experience double loss as you have stated, so, incase the prediction is or was wrong, you only lose the money you used to play the game, while the Forcaster also loses his or her potential commission.
In my opinion, if for example we can use our rational mindset and logic correctly then we should not be trapped by such offers, the logic is why would they sell the prediction or signal to other people if it is true that the signal can really guarantee victory, why don't they just use it themselves to get lots of wins? Well that's what makes me not believe it until now.
I also think same way, like i wonder how someone will just come up and try to convince others that they have a sequence and when it sets it will play according to their predictions and this often happen in sports betting. And the funny part of it is that most of those who claims to have signals that works for them are people who are very wretched in appearance and has nothing to show in order to convince others that what they say is likely to happen. If anyone has a sequence or a strategy that guarantees winnings all the time, believe me they will not reveal it to others to win from it, instead they will hoard it to themselves and become rich.
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Because beginner or someone who is really obsessed with achieving big win doesn't care about anything, when they see channel or platform for predictions and betting strategies, they will be tempted and try to use it, especially when in the first attempt they win, they will be even crazier to use all these channels until they really spend all their money.
It just that instead of paying money to get predictions from prediction channels, it better to use them to bet directly with own predictions and that will give us experience and learn to be able to analyze personally without relying on such prediction places.
It just that instead of paying money to get predictions from prediction channels, it better to use them to bet directly with own predictions and that will give us experience and learn to be able to analyze personally without relying on such prediction places.
So, what is the profit of someone paying for prediction and still end up to lose the money they used in Staking on the game, is that not a double lose? If perhaps they paid to receive a prediction from those group and at the end of the day the bet ends up going against their prediction, he or she will also lose the money they was used in staking on the game. That's one major reason why I will not even try to advice any one to do that.
I do not really have any clues if such topic or discussion already exist before and if there is any discussion of such nature before then you can call my attention to it. Although it is something that I feel we should discuss about with we hearing our opinion and experience and how the result was like if we have ever encountered such before.
I have heard many stories and people talking about getting game odds from unknown insane(mad) people and some say they get it from the ones they know and in some cases, the games turns out to be real with lots of testimonies. I personally have a friend who told me same thing too that there was a guy that lives within their street who got odds from an insane man close to a junction when he was about to board a cab. He said his friend was just passing by when the insane man stopped him and told him to check out the odds and he was very confused, furious and a bit angered but he too has heard things of that nature so he controlled himself and collected it, he played it and won a good amount of money. Winning such, he went scouting for the insane man so he could be able to reciprocate the goodwill but he could not see the man and he asked people around there and they told him that they've not seen the man for some days and he was told that the insane man has been there for some days before the occurrence but after their encounter that day he was no where to be found around that area.
I was wondering if any member here has had such experience before or they know somebody who has had such as well because to me it looks like something beyond the ordinary, it is unexplainable how an insane man would give odds to somebody to play and in some cases, they are unknown within the premises or environment were they have encounter and the odds turns out to be a good one. Sometimes people tell about being given odds in the dream to play and they do which turns out to a good one for them and all these keeps making me curious about these scenarios if it is ordinary or not, coupled with the superstitious believe and lots of other things they say.
I have heard many stories and people talking about getting game odds from unknown insane(mad) people and some say they get it from the ones they know and in some cases, the games turns out to be real with lots of testimonies. I personally have a friend who told me same thing too that there was a guy that lives within their street who got odds from an insane man close to a junction when he was about to board a cab. He said his friend was just passing by when the insane man stopped him and told him to check out the odds and he was very confused, furious and a bit angered but he too has heard things of that nature so he controlled himself and collected it, he played it and won a good amount of money. Winning such, he went scouting for the insane man so he could be able to reciprocate the goodwill but he could not see the man and he asked people around there and they told him that they've not seen the man for some days and he was told that the insane man has been there for some days before the occurrence but after their encounter that day he was no where to be found around that area.
I was wondering if any member here has had such experience before or they know somebody who has had such as well because to me it looks like something beyond the ordinary, it is unexplainable how an insane man would give odds to somebody to play and in some cases, they are unknown within the premises or environment were they have encounter and the odds turns out to be a good one. Sometimes people tell about being given odds in the dream to play and they do which turns out to a good one for them and all these keeps making me curious about these scenarios if it is ordinary or not, coupled with the superstitious believe and lots of other things they say.
There is someone at my church that told me of their old preacher up in NY that would use the numbers of the bible verses she discussed in order and they kept winning the lottery. It became such a problem that some people were going to church just to get the numbers from the sermon for gambling purposes in hopes that they would win. I found that story very insane odds as well. This story sounds very strange the one you speak of, but a dream having this type of occurence I would think its much more common compared to the insane man.
It does not work like that, not in all conditions can we tend to rely on information from a lunatic person and gamble with it, this is an occurrence that even rarely happen, when last have you seen a mad man, not to talk of one giving you game codes, all these are not what we should focus on being a serious gambler, there is no time to waste on waiting for when such opportunity may come, while we are not even sure if it will be a genuine, one, gamble for fun and leave the rest if you cant afford the loss.
This is completely something out of our minds. How come a person go receive odds and end up winning. These are mere coincidence and people who have belief in superstition will consider it whereas others will try to figure out the connection. What OP have mentioned is just an incident and nothing as Gospel's words or something like that. 
It does not work like that, not in all conditions can we tend to rely on information from a lunatic person and gamble with it, this is an occurrence that even rarely happen, when last have you seen a mad man, not to talk of one giving you game codes, all these are not what we should focus on being a serious gambler, there is no time to waste on waiting for when such opportunity may come, while we are not even sure if it will be a genuine, one, gamble for fun and leave the rest if you cant afford the loss.
There are people who are indeed believing on those kind of people, thinking that they are giving lucky picks. Well, it is up to them if they will use their money to bet just because an insane person told them to.
Some are going to this kind of route because they are desperate to find a way how to get some winnings. They feel nothing is wrong if they will believe them. Anyway, that's your money so it is up to you how you will spend it, right?
It does not work like that, not in all conditions can we tend to rely on information from a lunatic person and gamble with it, this is an occurrence that even rarely happen, when last have you seen a mad man, not to talk of one giving you game codes, all these are not what we should focus on being a serious gambler, there is no time to waste on waiting for when such opportunity may come, while we are not even sure if it will be a genuine, one, gamble for fun and leave the rest if you cant afford the loss.
Honestly, so far I have never believed in the prediction signals given by groups or people around me, in my opinion it is nothing more than nonsense, not without reason I say this because previously I have tried it and actually experienced consecutive defeats, so for now and in the future I think I will only follow the prediction signal if for example the signal is given directly from the dealer himself, but isn't that impossible? LOL, there will never be a casino that wants to leak the key to victory to gamblers because that is the same as them committing suicide.
So in my opinion, there will never be a signal that can be trusted, and to be honest I feel strange about why many people still believe in such signals, but I believe that most likely they are beginners who are still controlled by the ambition to achieve many victories and maybe in the end regret will teach them.
It is like one shooting him or herself on the foot which I think would never happen and is the last thing a casino would ever think of doing. That can only happen when an insider leaks out such information to compromise the system in making gains or a payback possibly for ill treatment or so.
I do not trust any signals from such a public channel or group which I have no idea about because someone can not just sit at their convenience and dish out something not realistic maybe they just do a guess work with no proper analysis and give out to their community to play and they just relax at their comfort zone while people loss money, it is so absurd.
As you said, most likely they are just guessing and then covering the signal with various sweet words so that people can believe and be sure of the signal. Another thing in my opinion, buying a prediction signal from someone else to gamble is the same as you are facing yourself with two possible risks at once, first you will lose money to pay for the signal and second you lose the amount of money you bet, so the point is to think realistically.
You have a point here, as you know, humans are naturally greedy and would go to any extent to generate funds for profit so I am not surprise if one can predict correctly and keep to themselves and also predict and want to put it up for sale on their groups or channels for their community to see and take advantage of. People who do that already know that they are doing the wrong thing and would not waste their time to bet with their odds but rather would use their community as experiment for their guess work while making money from them.
I used to belong to telegram platform were the admin one day made a post of an odd and after the admin did that it was not up to 3 minutes, that same odd was posted in three other telegram platform were I belong, one by the same handle and the rest by some other handles but it did not work. After that game I just quickly left the platforms and deleted the group so I do not see anything more from them. This contributed amongst the reasons why I do not join groups that does this predicting shits.
This is a complete hokum which I don’t know if the OP itself improvised or his source since there’s no way an insane person can be updated on an odds offered by a sportsbook or whatever betting type they are referring on this context.
What is so hard to believe is a random man at street giving odds that actually without any material or sources as reference for their bets and just complete random out of nowhere.
I will believe if this is a simple lotto numbers but an betting odds is already hard to believe.
You would have said you have never seen it happen before. But it doesn't mean that other people have not experienced it. There might be experienced gamblers who are having mental issues. These set of people might still have experience in gambling and can give out odds. But the general belief is that they possess some powers that make them predict games accurately. What is so hard to believe is a random man at street giving odds that actually without any material or sources as reference for their bets and just complete random out of nowhere.
I will believe if this is a simple lotto numbers but an betting odds is already hard to believe.
Do people still believe in this? I've heard stories similar yo to this but it has never happened to me before or someone in my family, so I still believe it to be half real and half false.
Mind you I think it is stupid to believe every mad men you came across, even if they give you such message don't go and bet with everything you have thinking that they don't always fail, you might end up hunting for a madman just to have your revenge.
Gamblers are the most desperate set of people I know.
Mind you I think it is stupid to believe every mad men you came across, even if they give you such message don't go and bet with everything you have thinking that they don't always fail, you might end up hunting for a madman just to have your revenge.
Gamblers are the most desperate set of people I know.
When they are unable to conduct their own research in order to make bets, they resort to testing other unimaginable resources. I also see ignorant people betting on bullshit "bull predictions" on TikTok, with some even using a dice to make predictions and a large number of gamblers betting on the outcomes. Guessing is nothing more than pure luck.
If an adult with Brain can believe a random bull running over some balls to make predictions there's nothing they can't believe.
Sports is somewhat very easy and popular games so I don't think that, it will be a big deal to carry out sporting analysis, because we have football and other sports games information all around us and that should build our technical knowledge about the games to be able to make our prediction smoothly without having to rely on third party help.
one thing we can tell for sure is that many adults don't really value their money
many times I've heard people asking others to take care of their money for them because they don't want the responsibility neither the time it would need to make it right
maybe gambling is just another venue for people to waste their future instead of creating it.
People that usually take such serious are people who are just hell bent in making profit through gambling, they do not know what it means to gamble. All they care is that they want to make more money from gambling failing to understand the basic principles of gambling. This desire of theirs most times makes them end up being scammed and sometimes all these happens in the wrong platform or channels they have joined unknown to them. Till they have that perspective of gambling for fun, the issues of scam channels promoting fake signals would continue to exist.
People who are determined to make a profit from gambling really do that, and those who know nothing about gambling do that too. Even some people who have been gambling for years still believe in such, and not just those who don't know the route of gambling.The thing is just that some people just believe that others are more experienced or practical than them; either they are more skillful in predicting games, or they have some superpowers that make them come out more successful than others, which is why those gamblers keep what they know aside and believe in the game others give to them with confidence that it will turn out as they predict it to be.
In my opinion, if for example we can use our rational mindset and logic correctly then we should not be trapped by such offers, the logic is why would they sell the prediction or signal to other people if it is true that the signal can really guarantee victory, why don't they just use it themselves to get lots of wins? Well that's what makes me not believe it until now.
I also think same way, like i wonder how someone will just come up and try to convince others that they have a sequence and when it sets it will play according to their predictions and this often happen in sports betting. And the funny part of it is that most of those who claims to have signals that works for them are people who are very wretched in appearance and has nothing to show in order to convince others that what they say is likely to happen. If anyone has a sequence or a strategy that guarantees winnings all the time, believe me they will not reveal it to others to win from it, instead they will hoard it to themselves and become rich.
Honestly, so far I have never believed in the prediction signals given by groups or people around me, in my opinion it is nothing more than nonsense, not without reason I say this because previously I have tried it and actually experienced consecutive defeats, so for now and in the future I think I will only follow the prediction signal if for example the signal is given directly from the dealer himself, but isn't that impossible? LOL, there will never be a casino that wants to leak the key to victory to gamblers because that is the same as them committing suicide.
So in my opinion, there will never be a signal that can be trusted, and to be honest I feel strange about why many people still believe in such signals, but I believe that most likely they are beginners who are still controlled by the ambition to achieve many victories and maybe in the end regret will teach them.
It is like one shooting him or herself on the foot which I think would never happen and is the last thing a casino would ever think of doing. That can only happen when an insider leaks out such information to compromise the system in making gains or a payback possibly for ill treatment or so.
I do not trust any signals from such a public channel or group which I have no idea about because someone can not just sit at their convenience and dish out something not realistic maybe they just do a guess work with no proper analysis and give out to their community to play and they just relax at their comfort zone while people loss money, it is so absurd.
As you said, most likely they are just guessing and then covering the signal with various sweet words so that people can believe and be sure of the signal. Another thing in my opinion, buying a prediction signal from someone else to gamble is the same as you are facing yourself with two possible risks at once, first you will lose money to pay for the signal and second you lose the amount of money you bet, so the point is to think realistically.
Truly relying on group or channel signal can not guarantee victory in gambling as most time people giving such signals also got it from where they too are not sure of and in some cases, they just forecast what we can not really tell if it was done by their real analysis or so. It is better one does their personal analysis than getting themselves involved in signal groups which they really can not say anything about because they would just end being scammed by the group or channel owners and also loose to the bets odds they get from the channels which is a double loss for them.
As additional material in conducting analysis may not be a problem so that we have more references to study, but to ensure that the signal is right on target it cannot be guaranteed at all because often we see gambling actually happening beyond expectations. The analysis itself can be combined with the analysis provided by several group signals so that we gather more information before placing a bet even though it also does not guarantee victory.Back again as we discussed earlier because if indeed any signal could provide certainty in achieving victory then I am sure any casino would close their business because they have to pay people who always win in betting and that makes no sense at all in gambling.
These are all superstitious believes, it doesn't matter where you get the odds from whether from an insane or sane person gambling is simply about luck. Some people usually say that they collect lottery predictions from mad people. This makes me wonder, how can they put themselves in that dangerous and uncomfortable position of communicating with someone that's insane over something that's superstitious. It's either you are lucky or unlucky, people should stop these childish acts and accept the fact that this is the 21st century.
The problem I have with a lot of people is that they forget that the world is advancing beyond some superstitious believes. In a civilized country or should I say the white man's country you don't see display of such foolishness. It's normal to have some things you do before gambling, like wearing a specific color of shirt or putting on a bangle, these things don't really work but it makes more sense than trying to receive odds from someone that's insane forgetting that you are exposing yourself to danger. What would you do if the mad person decides to harm you. This is even a more bigger risk than gambling itself.
People that usually take such serious are people who are just hell bent in making profit through gambling, they do not know what it means to gamble. All they care is that they want to make more money from gambling failing to understand the basic principles of gambling. This desire of theirs most times makes them end up being scammed and sometimes all these happens in the wrong platform or channels they have joined unknown to them. Till they have that perspective of gambling for fun, the issues of scam channels promoting fake signals would continue to exist.
Well, you are right mate and I do agree that those channels will continue to exist because their are yet naive or maybe just newbies of gambling who will want to rely on those channels for free game. I see different pages posting predictions on the X social media and some people are paying to get the those predictions. It just that instead of paying money to get predictions from prediction channels, it better to use them to bet directly with own predictions and that will give us experience and learn to be able to analyze personally without relying on such prediction places.
I actually was wondering too because things of this nature is not ordinary and anyone who gets such encounter seems to be lucky to say because not every time things of this occurs as it is rare to see such happen. People do say that when such happens, that the person in question has been favoured by their forefathers or father to say. Many people do say things as it relates to events of such nature.
Maybe they attach such occurrences to be a luck in nature as it is destined for such person to have what they have been destined to have through that means in their lifetime as the case may be. To those people, they never expected such occurrences in their life to encounter such situation at that moment but it just happens to them. Although I still see things beyond that reasoning as it is not to be normal but something beyond the ordinary, maybe a superstition in the making.
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