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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 07, 2024, 10:01:06 AM

Quote from: CryptSafe on December 06, 2024, 11:12:22 AM

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

Yea, it was a harsh experience and I don't advise people to stick to prediction channels or even pay anyone to get predictions because at the end of the day it can still turn out that only luck can prevail. Anyone that is relying on prediction channels should do it smartly, hence they get addicted and lose even more than they can imagine.

Of course, and in my opinion, making other people's predictions as an intermediary to achieve victory will actually only lead them to two possible risks or greater risks, because of course they get the prediction by exchanging it for some money and in addition they also need money as betting capital and when it turns out that in the end the prediction is really wrong then of course there are two losses that occur at the same time.

Honestly, I don't know why there are people who are that serious in responding to and treating gambling just to get victory, but one thing I believe is that one of the reasons why they do various actions like that is because they gamble without knowing what and how gambling really is, they don't know that there is actually no way that can really guarantee victory.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on December 06, 2024, 11:12:22 AM

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

Yea, it was a harsh experience and I don't advise people to stick to prediction channels or even pay anyone to get predictions because at the end of the day it can still turn out that only luck can prevail. Anyone that is relying on prediction channels should do it smartly, hence they get addicted and lose even more than they can imagine.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on December 07, 2024, 05:06:14 AM

This is not new to me and as a fact, I'd said exactly this in one of my today posts, so it is real, or should I say it's possibly real because I am almost completely sure of it (not completely) since I wasn't there, I only heard of such cases. However the most believing one was the one told by my neighbour who cannot lie about such a thing, she has nothing to gain in doing that. She claimed that she knew a woman in person who became rich through that means and she shared it herself. I've also heard of a lady through another person who gave dream games once in a while and it has always been a win. Except that all these are applicable to some kinds of lottery games, the style may not work for all.

Do you think this has to do with fate? Because all these happens once in a while in the sense that there is always a specific person that this insane people always go to whenever such happens(different person from the other). They always walk up to a particular person to give them such odds in most cases or the person might be passing by and they stop the person and give them the odd and go away or they just kind of plead for food to eat. Lottery games are not left out of this too as the same thing happens. Some even go as far as saying that they got the numbers from their loved ones who died years ago in their dream. Many superstitious believe and lots more too complicated to understand.

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Quote from: Outhue on December 07, 2024, 04:24:03 AM

Do people still believe in this? I've heard stories similar yo to this but it has never happened to me before or someone in my family, so I still believe it to be half real and half false.

Mind you I think it is stupid to believe every mad men you came across, even if they give you such message don't go and bet with everything you have thinking that they don't always fail, you might end up hunting for a madman just to have your revenge.

Gamblers are the most desperate set of people I know.

When they are unable to conduct their own research in order to make bets, they resort to testing other unimaginable resources. I also see ignorant people betting on bullshit "bull predictions" on TikTok, with some even using a dice to make predictions and a large number of gamblers betting on the outcomes. Guessing is nothing more than pure luck.

If an adult with Brain can believe a random bull running over some balls to make predictions there's nothing they can't believe.

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This is not new to me and as a fact, I'd said exactly this in one of my today posts, so it is real, or should I say it's possibly real because I am almost completely sure of it (not completely) since I wasn't there, I only heard of such cases. However the most believing one was the one told by my neighbour who cannot lie about such a thing, she has nothing to gain in doing that. She claimed that she knew a woman in person who became rich through that means and she shared it herself. I've also heard of a lady through another person who gave dream games once in a while and it has always been a win. Except that all these are applicable to some kinds of lottery games, the style may not work for all.

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Do people still believe in this? I've heard stories similar yo to this but it has never happened to me before or someone in my family, so I still believe it to be half real and half false.

Mind you I think it is stupid to believe every mad men you came across, even if they give you such message don't go and bet with everything you have thinking that they don't always fail, you might end up hunting for a madman just to have your revenge.

Gamblers are the most desperate set of people I know.

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Quote from: Accardo on December 06, 2024, 01:34:33 PM

It's even risky talking to insane people about odds. But from a lotto player who had similar experience, she told me about an Insane person who met her and gave her a code to play, she tried it and won. All that happens and it's becoming a believe amongst some gamers, though it's rare, but has worked for some players. Still, such things fall behind superstitious believes and shouldn't be taken as a routine to win in gambling.

There is always that one friend of a friend who has had such an encounter, but we have never seen someone with our own eyes or experienced anything in our presence; the narrative has always been told by someone else. I've heard this story multiple times, and I've been told that the codes these mad people give out are usually for draw tips.

Mad people are highly spirited and see what others can't see but I've never believed this gambling tip thing not ever for a second.

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Quote from: Awaklara on December 07, 2024, 01:01:53 AM

there are still gamblers who believe in superstitions related to predictions from psychics or even crazy people. just let them enjoy their gambling. we don't need to interfere in other people's gambling affairs as long as it doesn't harm us.

That is because gamblers will takes any chance to have a right prediction even if that is come from psychics or crazy people. That will not makes sense for us but that is what happen to them so we can not prohibit them to still doing that as that is their belief with the superstitions. We can lets them do that while we don't have to thinks about what they will do later and still focus on our gambling activities until it finish.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 05, 2024, 07:58:44 AM

Quote from: Awaklara on December 05, 2024, 06:58:44 AM

the best thing to do is, anyone who believes in predictions or predictions from crazy people or people who are considered to be able to predict bets, please believe it. for those who do not believe in such things, then do what we believe.
I personally consider such things as coincidences that happen. because usually, the moment is also right when we need money for something and we finally get lucky from the predictions given by others.

You shouldn't trust those you doubt, I'm not even always sure of the bets I make, not to mention that I could trust someone else. Although I know one person who was into betting in the past and he did pretty well, I could only listen to his advice if I agreed with one of his predictions. As for believing in the predictions of insane people, or anyone else, I exclude this because I simply don't believe in their abilities.

indeed we can not trust such predictions. the luck of such predictions is successful maybe 1 out of thousands of attempts.
making bets from our own predictions will be more appropriate. although some people around us may give advice, we can consider it but it is not our obligation to use it.

there are still gamblers who believe in superstitions related to predictions from psychics or even crazy people. just let them enjoy their gambling. we don't need to interfere in other people's gambling affairs as long as it doesn't harm us.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 06, 2024, 11:24:57 AM

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Quote from: rachael9385 on December 05, 2024, 12:20:41 PM

You guys are right.
This kind of superstition can also make a gambler become addicted to gambe. When a gambler believes in such things and always ask abnormal people for game codes, it also means that the gambler is insane as well, and it can make the gambler become addicted very easy. However before one would do this kind of thing it means that the gambler is gradually becoming addicted unknownly.
Well, there's a popular say that says nearly can not kill a bird. So if they nearly win, while they did not, it means try are not lucky. Besides, almost every gambler have had such experience before, when they predict games and all of them played except one.

Due to the hard lessons I have learned from gambling in my previous losses, I don't trust all those kinds of prediction, neither do I even use to any prediction from some prediction channel because like you said, it can actually lead to addiction too.

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

Well, let me just tell you that there is actually more to what meets the eyes, or the eyes can see, I have been in such group before and after losing two three or four games consecutively, I decided to contact the admin to let him know that non of the games he posted on the channel have turned out a win for me, and to my greatest amazment, he blocked me immediately.

Already knowing that may likely happen if I complain on the main group, I decided to lay low and contact a few menbers of the group through private messages, and to my amazement again, each person I contacted blocked me without even replying to me, I contacted about six to seven different profiles, and they all blocked me, this was when I realized that I possibly may likely be the only real person on the group, the rest are likely working with the admin to confuse new members(victims) that will be joining the group, I knew I have been scammed and quietly left the group on my own.

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its very funny to be frank. They are all a syndicate in that group hence their actions towards blocking you because you have already known their tricks and might get them exposed. I believe you are not the only one to have had such experience on that platform, maybe there are other members that could be having same experience maybe they just kept mute as it is a public platform and do not trust any other person to chat with on the platform.

They are big time scammers to say and when they notice your reaction towards their scams, they are quick to block and restrict you from the group and from chatting them up so you do not tell others and in some cases, they could hurriedly report your account to be blocked when in the real sense they are the real scammers.

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Quote from: hahay on December 06, 2024, 11:39:42 AM

But at least, I might feel that if for example you ask for odds to an insane person, the result might also be a loss because at least, the luck is when the insane person suddenly gives you odds and it will give you a chance that might be good to win too. Because after all, I think not all insane people can be talked to, instead of talking to them, it seems more likely that the insane person will be angry or furious. But yes, the point is, even though from the story the insane person gives a win, basically someone who makes the bet is also getting lucky too. Thus, getting odds from anywhere can be good for our bets as long as we are also lucky.

It's even risky talking to insane people about odds. But from a lotto player who had similar experience, she told me about an Insane person who met her and gave her a code to play, she tried it and won. All that happens and it's becoming a believe amongst some gamers, though it's rare, but has worked for some players. Still, such things fall behind superstitious believes and shouldn't be taken as a routine to win in gambling.

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This is certainly an interesting story. There is a theory that our world is only 99 percent rational and real, and 1 percent irrational and unreal.

That is why scientists cannot create a theory of everything. On the other hand, scientists cannot scientifically substantiate the irrationality of our world, in particular the possibility of miracles. Scientists do not believe in the possibility of miracles, but at the same time they understand that there are limits to knowledge, a person cannot know everything.

If we talk about the insane, they are in an altered state, that is, theoretically they can have some supernatural abilities. At least, folk tradition often attributes to the insane, the blessed and the holy fools the ability to see the future and prophesy.

Therefore, I cannot exclude that this whole story is true and insane people in some cases (in an altered state of consciousness) can really predict the results of sports competitions and the results of gambling.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on December 05, 2024, 03:07:46 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 05, 2024, 01:56:26 PM

I think maybe the incident was really real because there is always a possibility for things that initially seem unreasonable to happen, but in the end of course it comes back to ourselves in responding to it, our minds can distinguish whether it will always seem reasonable or it is an effective idea to be used as an intermediary to get victory through the scenario of asking for advice from crazy people.
I also agree with you that this looks too good to be true, because if it were true then there would definitely be many gamblers who would gather crazy people to ask, I do not forbid anyone from trying this idea because in the end sometimes someone has to make a mistake or be careless first to find out whether it is true or wrong, but in my opinion the incident was nothing more than just luck.

I will agree with you here as you have opined but for such to have happened, then it is more than one could imagine because it is something much more than the ordinary as we all know the state and status of insane people to be able to dish out such information accurately and promptly. Things of this nature can likely be said to be superstition as the case may be but however that does not mean that one should start chasing after insane people to start asking them to get odds that is not normal and a joke taken too far. If such should happen then casinos would start packing up because there would definitely be nothing for them to benefit anymore.

Of course, and one thing I will say that we as a gambler must really understand that gambling is full of "coincidental" scenarios where the reason is clear that luck is what brings you to everything that initially seems unreasonable but in the end it turns out to be successful in winning, such as the example you told in your first post OP that there was someone who managed to win through advice given by a crazy person, and isn't that generally hard to believe considering the personality of a crazy person?

One thing I worry about is that there is a possibility for other gamblers to try the same way to win, so it is very important for a gambler to understand that "a method that worked in the past does not mean it will work in the future, there is no connection between previous results and future results even if you use the same method". Wink

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But at least, I might feel that if for example you ask for odds to an insane person, the result might also be a loss because at least, the luck is when the insane person suddenly gives you odds and it will give you a chance that might be good to win too. Because after all, I think not all insane people can be talked to, instead of talking to them, it seems more likely that the insane person will be angry or furious. But yes, the point is, even though from the story the insane person gives a win, basically someone who makes the bet is also getting lucky too. Thus, getting odds from anywhere can be good for our bets as long as we are also lucky.

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beyond logic sometimes the instincts of crazy people are strange but bring good luck if we want to do it like unnatural but real. like lottery almost always gives victory but always missed, natural code seems not to support. when getting a good number but it happens tomorrow not now, victory seems not on your side but only almost happens. dozens of opportunities to get jackpots continue to be missed but fate always says otherwise

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Quote from: CryptSafe on December 06, 2024, 11:12:22 AM

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

There might be genuine prediction channels but I am sorry, I have never seen anyone. For me there are two main reasons why we have these popular prediction platform. One might be to make profit for the admins through followers and promotion. The second reason is that these organisers want to exploit subscribers. Some of them ask for subscription fees before you can have access to bets. If they are sure of their bets, I am sure they wouldn't be on social media seeking for more followers or subscribers. However, I belong to some platform where gambling is analysed and discussed and not prediction sites.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on December 06, 2024, 11:12:22 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 06, 2024, 09:24:25 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on December 05, 2024, 12:20:41 PM

You guys are right.
This kind of superstition can also make a gambler become addicted to gambe. When a gambler believes in such things and always ask abnormal people for game codes, it also means that the gambler is insane as well, and it can make the gambler become addicted very easy. However before one would do this kind of thing it means that the gambler is gradually becoming addicted unknownly.
Well, there's a popular say that says nearly can not kill a bird. So if they nearly win, while they did not, it means try are not lucky. Besides, almost every gambler have had such experience before, when they predict games and all of them played except one.

Due to the hard lessons I have learned from gambling in my previous losses, I don't trust all those kinds of prediction, neither do I even use to any prediction from some prediction channel because like you said, it can actually lead to addiction too.

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

Well, let me just tell you that there is actually more to what meets the eyes, or the eyes can see, I have been in such group before and after losing two three or four games consecutively, I decided to contact the admin to let him know that non of the games he posted on the channel have turned out a win for me, and to my greatest amazment, he blocked me immediately.

Already knowing that may likely happen if I complain on the main group, I decided to lay low and contact a few menbers of the group through private messages, and to my amazement again, each person I contacted blocked me without even replying to me, I contacted about six to seven different profiles, and they all blocked me, this was when I realized that I possibly may likely be the only real person on the group, the rest are likely working with the admin to confuse new members(victims) that will be joining the group, I knew I have been scammed and quietly left the group on my own.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 06, 2024, 09:24:25 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on December 05, 2024, 12:20:41 PM

You guys are right.
This kind of superstition can also make a gambler become addicted to gambe. When a gambler believes in such things and always ask abnormal people for game codes, it also means that the gambler is insane as well, and it can make the gambler become addicted very easy. However before one would do this kind of thing it means that the gambler is gradually becoming addicted unknownly.
Well, there's a popular say that says nearly can not kill a bird. So if they nearly win, while they did not, it means try are not lucky. Besides, almost every gambler have had such experience before, when they predict games and all of them played except one.

Due to the hard lessons I have learned from gambling in my previous losses, I don't trust all those kinds of prediction, neither do I even use to any prediction from some prediction channel because like you said, it can actually lead to addiction too.

It must have been a terrible experience and lesson learnt in a hard way mate hence your statement. I personally do not give in to all these so called prediction channels because what they do is a way of scamming people in making them to believe their calls and odds are real and extorting money from them to pay for channel fee and signals which is very unfortunate and what baffles me is that after losing, people still remain with them all in the name of trying luck if it would be in their favored one day.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on December 03, 2024, 12:07:04 PM

It remains all superstition to me, one of the many superstitions surrounding gambling. If a madman can give correct predictions for a game, why has no shaman or prophet been able to give correct score predictions for several games?

Most times the people who tell this kind of story always claim to have heard it from another person; it is rarely a firsthand experience.

I think games from insane or mad person is not usual, it is rear. they act upon a driven force and or influence which makes them to give those games. I hope you understand better because you are African, you should know better. But be thou as It may, no game is a sure game until it is proven to be sure after results. Even not all game given by insane, mythical people or prophet usually play, they have higher chances of loss. It all bounce back to luck. Although people have different believes and it works for them according to how they believe.

In other words gambling is spiritually inclined, and need a powerful spell to get predictions which mostly can take a human life. that is why those mythical people are afraid to use it to win.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on December 03, 2024, 12:07:04 PM

It remains all superstition to me, one of the many superstitions surrounding gambling. If a madman can give correct predictions for a game, why has no shaman or prophet been able to give correct score predictions for several games?

Most times the people who tell this kind of story always claim to have heard it from another person; it is rarely a firsthand experience.

I agree with what you're saying, dude. If only all the shamans or fortune tellers knew what would come out in casinos, then I hope the gamblers would include them so that they could be their mentors on which categories they should bet in casinos because they know where they will hit when betting here in the casino.

So, are there any fortune tellers who can predict the outcome of casino games or lottery betting? They are the ones who bet first so that these shamans or fortune tellers would be the first to become rich in this type of gambling.

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