Of course no one is going to admit, admittance to something that isn't good or moral is going to be difficult because society tells us that we shouldn't do this and that. Advice is useless to this people because what we really need to do is to do the action first and then have them slowly accept it themselves, they will come to terms with their addiction during the therapy.
Advices will not be taken the people who are already addicted unless something too bas will help or they will realize that all their assets , property and even love ones are gone then thats the only time they will be able to do it. Sometimes those who are already addicted meed to feels the lose more on more so they will not feel the excitement of winning. Where in sometimes winning only happens to the cool headed people who didn't get themselves too much trouble. 
Topic: Recognizing Gambling Disorders, Symptoms of Severe Gambling Addiction (Read 979 times)
July 05, 2021, 04:45:40 PM
July 05, 2021, 04:22:02 PM
the worst part is that most of them always say:
" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
Do you know what's even worst with that mentality? The thing is that, let's consider two scenarios in such times:" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
You lose: Obviously you will have frustration and you want to win it back while knowing the hole is now bigger.
You win: You recover your loss and you are ready to leave but you will feel like how easy it was to win money and it isn't the right time to leave because my luck has finally started to shine and I should not be leaving at such a lucky timing.
Both the situations are equally dangerous because the mindset to earn money from gambling is the real problem here.
July 05, 2021, 04:12:51 PM
Of course no one is going to admit, admittance to something that isn't good or moral is going to be difficult because society tells us that we shouldn't do this and that. Advice is useless to this people because what we really need to do is to do the action first and then have them slowly accept it themselves, they will come to terms with their addiction during the therapy.
Gamblers don't have to admit their addiction in front of anyone else. They just need to realize within themselves and that should be usually enough for one to understand that their gambling is no more fun for them and has become addictive and costing them more than it should.I have been suffering from a light gambling addiction in past and I know that feeling, it's hard to stop and talk about it with others because gambling isn't something I am comfortable talking about with anyone but what took me out of this problem was a day off from gambling and for me, it was forced because we had some internet issues and I finally got time to realize that my problem was starting to get serious. Thankfully I was able to stop and minimize it at the right time, I gamble now but rarely and occasionally when I am tired or have nothing else to do.
July 05, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
the worst part is that most of them always say:
" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
Do you know what's even worst with that mentality? The thing is that, let's consider two scenarios in such times:" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
You lose: Obviously you will have frustration and you want to win it back while knowing the hole is now bigger.
You win: You recover your loss and you are ready to leave but you will feel like how easy it was to win money and it isn't the right time to leave because my luck has finally started to shine and I should not be leaving at such a lucky timing.
Both the situations are equally dangerous because the mindset to earn money from gambling is the real problem here.
when losing then you do have that recovering losses kind of mindset and when you do win then you would be having that lucky feeling which would make you continue to play or simply tells
that you wont be having any option but do end up on playing unless if you do have the good control of yourself then these things wont really be happening.
Addiction is something can be mold up depending on whats youre intention towards gambling and if you do look on profiting way then you would most likely end up into this path.
July 05, 2021, 01:47:28 PM
the worst part is that most of them always say:
" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
Do you know what's even worst with that mentality? The thing is that, let's consider two scenarios in such times:" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
You lose: Obviously you will have frustration and you want to win it back while knowing the hole is now bigger.
You win: You recover your loss and you are ready to leave but you will feel like how easy it was to win money and it isn't the right time to leave because my luck has finally started to shine and I should not be leaving at such a lucky timing.
Both the situations are equally dangerous because the mindset to earn money from gambling is the real problem here.
July 05, 2021, 07:16:49 AM
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That is always is the case.
One might not admit they're a gambling addict and ignore the symptoms because they think they're doing it normally.
Most of these guys don't want to listen to advices, because again they think it's still normal. Suffering may not be felt during the process of addiction, it will be felt on the latter part of addiction. That's the same reason why they're the last to know that they're already suffering from mental illness.
No amount of advices can change someone, unless they want to help themselves.
July 05, 2021, 07:01:27 AM
the worst part is that most of them always say:
" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
" I'm just going to play today, when I win a lot of money I'll stop..."
they lose money and continue to gamble, then they lose money and continue to gamble, and there comes a day when they win a lot of money, but they don't stop playing, they gamble with all the money and lose everything.
well games are a good thing if people know how to control themselves
July 05, 2021, 06:29:47 AM
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you know the phrase about the one's who suffer is the last to know that they suffer?One might not admit they're a gambling addict and ignore the symptoms because they think they're doing it normally.
Most of these guys don't want to listen to advices, because again they think it's still normal. Suffering may not be felt during the process of addiction, it will be felt on the latter part of addiction. That's the same reason why they're the last to know that they're already suffering from mental illness.
No amount of advices can change someone, unless they want to help themselves.
There are some of my friends who are addicted to gambling, but they consider themselves normal. Sometimes people who are addicted to gambling
do need the help of others to wake them up. Usually as long as there are no financial and life problems, those who are addicted do not realize they
are addicted to gambling. The difficult thing is to wake up people who are addicted to gambling, I tried to advise several times my friends who are
addicted to gambling, but they didn't listen to me. So in the end there are some people who are addicted to gambling have to go through the hard way
to wake them up.
July 05, 2021, 06:20:57 AM
~snip~
you know the phrase about the one's who suffer is the last to know that they suffer?That is always is the case.
One might not admit they're a gambling addict and ignore the symptoms because they think they're doing it normally.
Most of these guys don't want to listen to advices, because again they think it's still normal. Suffering may not be felt during the process of addiction, it will be felt on the latter part of addiction. That's the same reason why they're the last to know that they're already suffering from mental illness.
No amount of advices can change someone, unless they want to help themselves.
July 05, 2021, 06:06:41 AM
I hate friends who are an addict on gambling because as a responsible gambler myself I have seen how gambling can ruin one man's future and reputation, I will them him right away to stop and get professional help if he doesn't listen then it's no use to continue our friendship, I hate to see a friend ruining his life because of gambling.
You don't need to hate them instantly, first you have to warn them about the effects of their addiction and how they can cure it, if they doesn't care, then just simply ignore them and avoid to prevent yourself on being addictive as well, because having friends like them really isn't a good thing.
What I mean is a avoid them when they are playing gambling, but if you guys are just hanging out to have some bonding, I guess there's nothing to worry about that. You don't need to end your friendship or your relationship to them, respect their choices and make your own too.
July 05, 2021, 06:01:46 AM
I hate friends who are an addict on gambling because as a responsible gambler myself I have seen how gambling can ruin one man's future and reputation, I will them him right away to stop and get professional help if he doesn't listen then it's no use to continue our friendship, I hate to see a friend ruining his life because of gambling.
If you truly love your friend in deep problem like any form of addiction, you need to help him seek professional medical attention rather than advising him because your friend have crossed that limit once you identify them as addicted and it will ruin himself and the rest of the lives around him, so rather than avoiding them it is best to help him out. July 05, 2021, 05:36:09 AM
Most of the listed symptoms are pretty observable but the problem is that not a lot of people know that it's actually a symptom of addiction and that they just think it as something. This is actually thread because I think that not a lot of people know how to deal or identify an addiction when they see one so they disregard it and see it when it's already too late.
Actually even if they already see the effect yet they will deny because of love in gambling . and also if they have no person around them to let them show life outside of addiction .they are only focusing in what they can win but now on what they are losing.
July 05, 2021, 04:51:01 AM
I hate friends who are an addict on gambling because as a responsible gambler myself I have seen how gambling can ruin one man's future and reputation, I will them him right away to stop and get professional help if he doesn't listen then it's no use to continue our friendship, I hate to see a friend ruining his life because of gambling.
Lol if you are a true friend then you will Keep on telling him and will help him get through the situation . it is their Mistake to become an addict but don't let them suffer all their life because of that mistake.instead lets help them to realize what they are missing and how can they change life tp goodness .
July 05, 2021, 04:31:05 AM
As a friend then its up to us on doing our part and its just right that you would really be giving out some reminders about on the activity that they've been doing.Even though im not really that a fan of getting involved into someones business specially if its their money had been used.
But since you do show off some concern on your friend then its not really bad to take some try on giving out some advice and they might listen on what you had said.Addiction is something that cant really be easily
get rid off.
When you do saw that your friend or even yourself is falling gradually into addiction then its better to be wise on taking some break on playing or get engaging with gambling.If you dont like to experience
some possible unfortunate situations in your life then better quit or stop for a while.
If we can talk clearly and be honest with them about the risk of playing gambling, they will accept and follow our suggestion. If they are getting deeper from gambling, we need to pull them out from gambling with many things because we do not want to see our friends become addicted to gambling. We can tell many cases out there that they can face if they have a gambling addiction. But since you do show off some concern on your friend then its not really bad to take some try on giving out some advice and they might listen on what you had said.Addiction is something that cant really be easily
get rid off.
When you do saw that your friend or even yourself is falling gradually into addiction then its better to be wise on taking some break on playing or get engaging with gambling.If you dont like to experience
some possible unfortunate situations in your life then better quit or stop for a while.
Maybe I will ask him to follow me to travel to someplace or invite him to do something else because as a friend, at least, we know what they like, so we can use it to drag him out from gambling. Maybe asking for help from the other closest friends or family members will necessary to help him.
It's hard to stay on their side and keep them reminding about their gambling habit if they don't listen to you at all. Sometimes these addicted friends get annoyed to us when we remind them, they tell us that it is their money that they are spending so we shouldn't interfere with their gambling. They don't hear and realized what we are saying to them when their habit gets worse so for me when this happens it is still better to consult a specialist to assist our friend to get out of his gambling addiction.
Mmm, it is. But that is what we should do when we see they're using a long time playing gambling. Even if they get addicted for a small, they will still listen to us because a friendship will give trust to each other. If they feel annoyed with us, that is normal because they want to play what they want, but we should always remind them not to get deep into playing gambling if that is a gambling game. It needs more effort from us to show them that we really care to them to listen to us, and I believe that they will listen and follow us because of our friendship. July 05, 2021, 03:24:09 AM
Even if they already know yet they deny to respond because they are starting to patronizing gambling and rely their future in luck.
which means gamblers becomes addicted because of their own laziness and stupidity .
What's important here is that people around the person showing symptoms are aware of it, it doesn't need to be the one inflicted to know, they will deny it no matter what, you know the phrase about the one's who suffer is the last to know that they suffer? which means gamblers becomes addicted because of their own laziness and stupidity .
July 05, 2021, 02:47:37 AM
If he's your real friend, you wont leave him that way instead you'll help him until he recovers. Sometimes, people are too weak to control themselves and that's why some friends or your family can help you on making yourself better again. I do witness some addict in gambling, and his friends continues to motivate him and encourage him not to gamble anymore, then it works to him. It's hard to dictate someone in the casinos because you didn't know that guy so I think it wont work if you are not connected with that gambler.
Now, this is just blaming the wrong party tbh. He already tried to help, if the friend doesn't acknowledge it, then that's his fault. Changing doesn't only come from the persuasion of others, it also comes from one's own realization, it comes from both sides. Now if one side doesn't want to change, there's nothing you can do, and it's also your own choice if you want to continue or not. Asking the words "if he's your real friend" is just something that induces guilt towards one party, and not really what he actually wants, basically taking advantage of his feelings. Especially in gambling. Gamblers should be responsible for their own selves since this industry takes advantage of you basically if your mindset is weak. You choosing to enter then succumbing to it is your own fault, and heck you should even thank your friend for even trying to help you. If they left you, not really their fault tbh, it's just yours.
July 04, 2021, 09:04:25 PM
Most of the listed symptoms are pretty observable but the problem is that not a lot of people know that it's actually a symptom of addiction and that they just think it as something. This is actually thread because I think that not a lot of people know how to deal or identify an addiction when they see one so they disregard it and see it when it's already too late.
Even if they already know yet they deny to respond because they are starting to patronizing gambling and rely their future in luck.which means gamblers becomes addicted because of their own laziness and stupidity .
July 04, 2021, 08:19:23 PM
I hate friends who are an addict on gambling because as a responsible gambler myself I have seen how gambling can ruin one man's future and reputation, I will them him right away to stop and get professional help if he doesn't listen then it's no use to continue our friendship, I hate to see a friend ruining his life because of gambling.
If he's your real friend, you wont leave him that way instead you'll help him until he recovers. Sometimes, people are too weak to control themselves and that's why some friends or your family can help you on making yourself better again. I do witness some addict in gambling, and his friends continues to motivate him and encourage him not to gamble anymore, then it works to him. It's hard to dictate someone in the casinos because you didn't know that guy so I think it wont work if you are not connected with that gambler. July 04, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
Very valuable thread.
I think that people have to realise that certain personalities are especially prone to impulse gambling. That's why it is so important to have stop losses when you are playing, make sure that you align your mindset with treating gambling as an entertainment venue rather than a profit making venture, and request voluntary self-exclusion.
I've seen many intelligent people who were chasing their losses or trying to gain quick profits and lose it all - it's not worth it.
I think that people have to realise that certain personalities are especially prone to impulse gambling. That's why it is so important to have stop losses when you are playing, make sure that you align your mindset with treating gambling as an entertainment venue rather than a profit making venture, and request voluntary self-exclusion.
I've seen many intelligent people who were chasing their losses or trying to gain quick profits and lose it all - it's not worth it.
July 04, 2021, 05:46:25 PM
In the last few hours I personally do self-introspection and analyze these symptoms may be in myself, family or friends. and as a result there are some of my friends who do seem to have these symptoms ;
1. Should I shut up and watch him continue gambling.
2. Or risk the friendship to fall apart by suggesting him to go to a psychiatrist, because because in my place people who go to a psychiatrist are identical to people who have mental disorders.
On number 1. can you go on a friendship with him seeing he is ruining his life, not what people are going to say but what you are going to tell to yourself and what kind of friendship you are giving to him, letting him do this to himself.
On Number 2. friends do fall part if it is going to fall apart come out with a clean conscience that you have done it because you are a friend not because you let him, self destruct, don't think about the mental disorder side, just think about your friendship and what is right.
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