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Topic: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. - page 85. (Read 143950 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Unfortunately the extreme harassment and threats since the posting of a Facebook profile with friends/family information has lead to some horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands.  This is an attempt to reach out and give customers what is left, even if it means liquidating personal assets to help.  I will start the process now of looking at customers on a case-by-case basis and doing what I can to help.  Any refunds in December will be aimed at those who have suffered "extreme" losses due to reduced payout.  I will begin to look at the remaining majority of accounts in January.

Questions may go unanswered for awhile, but that is because there is a lot of work to do.  Please be patient.  Unfortunately it will be impossible to make everyone happy but a very honest attempt will be made.

For those who are wondering, the owner is not laughing all the way to Mexico.  Losses have been substantial due to complete invasion of privacy and some very harsh blackmail that followed thereafter, involving thoughts of suicide over some matters, but there will be a strong attempt to make things right even if it is unsuccessful.  

I understand that you may be upset by harassment and threats, I agree some members maybe did too much, but maybe it is time to ask yourself - how would I react if someone would steal my money, ignore ma e-mails, skim my payments and actually made fool of me? To someone 1 or 5  BTC is huge money so you cant equal all contracts, this is game where hundreds and hundreds of BTC are "missing" and you came here after few days without any word of regret or "I am sorry" or apology. That sucks man, you are only one responsible for what happened, including harassment and threats from some members. What should be next?

1.) Tell the truth about this project, ponzi, scam, mining service - or what ever you think this your "business" is (or was). All those who bought something from you deserve the truth
2.) You should return money to people - only right thing. Or start to make Sunday payments on 100% as it should be. YOUR CHOICE
3.) People deserve sincere apologies, you can not come here and twist this story around - to repeat myself - everything that happened in last days and weeks in only due to your behavior, your attitude and your business. You can not create ponzi or scam and cry about threats. This is just stupid man, or bad joke - whatever you want...
 
To conclude, look yourself in the mirror, give us real truth, give apologies to all and return money or start making Sunday payments as they should be, your choice man, don not cry, it is your fault for anything that happened or could happen in future, people react on all kind of ways when money is involved and when someone stoles something from them.

hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 505
Unfortunately the extreme harassment and threats since the posting of a Facebook profile with friends/family information has lead to some horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands.  This is an attempt to reach out and give customers what is left, even if it means liquidating personal assets to help.  I will start the process now of looking at customers on a case-by-case basis and doing what I can to help.  Any refunds in December will be aimed at those who have suffered "extreme" losses due to reduced payout.  I will begin to look at the remaining majority of accounts in January.

Questions may go unanswered for awhile, but that is because there is a lot of work to do.  Please be patient.  Unfortunately it will be impossible to make everyone happy but a very honest attempt will be made.

For those who are wondering, the owner is not laughing all the way to Mexico.  Losses have been substantial due to complete invasion of privacy and some very harsh blackmail that followed thereafter, involving thoughts of suicide over some matters, but there will be a strong attempt to make things right even if it is unsuccessful. 


Thank you for your words.
Why you not answer to e-mails? This e-mails have not comprise any harassments!
I even made possible an offer:

I have 115 GH/s * 0,0015 = 0,1725 BTC

Give me 0,1 BTC to   1H9VW5zpCxvq37CoxHHey8nfYrs6b1Appw   an i go, Also you can cancel my contract.

Show us that you are willing to do anything.

regards
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
OH, HERES AN IDEA, WHY DONT YOU USE THE GH FROM THE FARM TO MINE BTC WITH AND THEN PAY OUT THE BTC THAT IS OWED EVERYBODY ON SATURDAY EVERY WEEK- YOU COULD BASE THE PAYOUTS ON HOW MANY GH THEY BOUGHT FROM YOU and what 1 gh earns per week maybe put all the stats on a website. you could call it pbmining    Cry     
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
So far, response to OP has been decidedly  mild for a ponzi this size (also not very compatible with the claimed threats).
Most of pbmining customers seem not to be very surprised or upset, illustrating in my eyes that most of them knew full well this was a ponzi.
Here is to hoping the money actually ends up with authorities, as I want neither the operator nor its willful customers to have any.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Hopefully, people will learn from this experience and refuse to do business with services that refuse to provide any evidence of their legitimacy. Seriously, how much more proof of a scam do you need than that?

Really the person who gives negative trust for freedom of speech?

Dude gave me negative trust for calling out HASH for using 13k of investor funds "with out concent or a loan to follow through with"  for a real estate deal I told everyone would go sour.... Then I asked him why he gave me negative trust a couple of days ago he could not even answer...  


PS It happened just like I called it. Check out HASH status now.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Unfortunately the extreme harassment and threats since the posting of a Facebook profile with friends/family information has lead to some horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands.  This is an attempt to reach out and give customers what is left, even if it means liquidating personal assets to help.  I will start the process now of looking at customers on a case-by-case basis and doing what I can to help.  Any refunds in December will be aimed at those who have suffered "extreme" losses due to reduced payout.  I will begin to look at the remaining majority of accounts in January.

Questions may go unanswered for awhile, but that is because there is a lot of work to do.  Please be patient.  Unfortunately it will be impossible to make everyone happy but a very honest attempt will be made.

For those who are wondering, the owner is not laughing all the way to Mexico.  Losses have been substantial due to complete invasion of privacy and some very harsh blackmail that followed thereafter, involving thoughts of suicide over some matters, but there will be a strong attempt to make things right even if it is unsuccessful. 

Well, this is hardly surprising. It's a shame that us "Sherlocks" and "Crusaders" have ruined your fine mining company and destroyed your mining farm.

If you really want to seek justice in this case, I will volunteer to hold your hand and walk with you to the police station to file a harrassment complaint against me for posting your information. I've been wanting to see the new building anyway. If you're still feeling sad after that I will even take you down to Timmies for a coffee and drop you off at a therapist to get your suicidal issues worked out so the mining farm can spring back to life.

Barring that, I will offer this to you if you're interested. Come clean, and allow an audit of your books. I am willing to do one, at your location and on video if you'd like. Pay out what you owe to the people you've stolen it from starting with the most recent to get everyone up to the same % loss on their original investment.

Serious offers, BTW.

omg . i luv mr teal. this guy is a child? "whaaaaa, i gonna kill myself, i stole your money got caught, and now i am suicidal about not getting to steal without my identity being secret" are u fucking kidding me? jay, do you hear yourself - your spoiled retarded NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL YOU ARE CHOSING HOW PAYBACK IS DONE- OH AND WE NEED TO TALK ON THE PHONE BRO a third party that acts as a man needs to handle this.

 he has a very rich family - you have no clue these people are LOADED...I MEAN PB's FAMILY IS MEGA RICH. his moms side of the family is fukn living the life if he used there house or wifi or computers they are complicit.WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTED BY  AN ARBITRATOR AT THE LEAST. HEY PB IF U HAVE ONE ACTUAL ONCE OF SELF RESPECT ASK SOME BODY ABOUT THE BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ARBITRATION-THAT WOULD MAKE U SO LUCKY ... i guess we will see how stupid you are, if u dont come begging for this outcome
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
bull shit pb started skimming-then he got caught skimming, then people contacted him... not before. he has no reason not to verify the farm. if he has a farm he is keeping what was bought with our money... this guy need the inside of a jail cell he thinks the he, the guy that was skimming and stealing, is  a fair judge of how this should be paid out...why the further altered payout? WE NEED PUBLIC OVERSIGHT BY AN APPOINTED AJUDICATOR NOT THIS FUCKING MORON JASON BOYDKO DECIDING HOW HE THINKS HE SHOULD GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK... thieves dont get to sentence them selves and oversee there recompance - that is the most fukd thing i have ever heard= more stealing... so he buys himself time and steals more(really pays himself) then tells others in january he will get to you=fukd.... WHY WOULD EVERYBODY NOT GET THE SAME AMOUNT PER GH OWNED.....WHATS THAT AMOUNT.....WHAT IMPARTIAL THIRD PERSON IS HANDLING THIS.........WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED NOW SO WE CAN HIRE AN ATORNEY IN THAT TOWN TO OVERLOOK OUR INTERESTTHE FARM MUST BE VERIFIED and why the skims...  u owe answers?


i hope that new car was worth it, you are going down bro
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
Unfortunately the extreme harassment and threats since the posting of a Facebook profile with friends/family information has lead to some horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands.  This is an attempt to reach out and give customers what is left, even if it means liquidating personal assets to help.  I will start the process now of looking at customers on a case-by-case basis and doing what I can to help.  Any refunds in December will be aimed at those who have suffered "extreme" losses due to reduced payout.  I will begin to look at the remaining majority of accounts in January.

Questions may go unanswered for awhile, but that is because there is a lot of work to do.  Please be patient.  Unfortunately it will be impossible to make everyone happy but a very honest attempt will be made.

For those who are wondering, the owner is not laughing all the way to Mexico.  Losses have been substantial due to complete invasion of privacy and some very harsh blackmail that followed thereafter, involving thoughts of suicide over some matters, but there will be a strong attempt to make things right even if it is unsuccessful. 

Well, this is hardly surprising. It's a shame that us "Sherlocks" and "Crusaders" have ruined your fine mining company and destroyed your mining farm.

If you really want to seek justice in this case, I will volunteer to hold your hand and walk with you to the police station to file a harrassment complaint against me for posting your information. I've been wanting to see the new building anyway. If you're still feeling sad after that I will even take you down to Timmies for a coffee and drop you off at a therapist to get your suicidal issues worked out so the mining farm can spring back to life.

Barring that, I will offer this to you if you're interested. Come clean, and allow an audit of your books. I am willing to do one, at your location and on video if you'd like. Pay out what you owe to the people you've stolen it from starting with the most recent to get everyone up to the same % loss on their original investment.

Serious offers, BTW.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
That's a shocker. I never thought it's possible to destroy a business by harassing its owner.

I think Karpeles had it worse at Gox, people got on planes on flew to Japan to confront him. People lost hundreds of thousands each at Gox. I doubt anyone sunk tens of thousands with on pbmining but who knows. maybe he was harassed or blackmailed. I think if any of us were harassed, we would go to the police. We will likely never know what the truth is, more likely we will assume it was a ponzi and add it to the list.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
why you don't want open market for shares/GHs?
full member
Activity: 271
Merit: 101
Can you not begin by being honest ? Death treats dont make your miners in iceland disappear

rofl
full member
Activity: 271
Merit: 101
That's a shocker. I never thought it's possible to destroy a business by harassing its owner.

His mining rigs are very sensitive to emotions
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
Hopefully, people will learn from this experience and refuse to do business with services that refuse to provide any evidence of their legitimacy. Seriously, how much more proof of a scam do you need than that?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
There's going to be a huge fallout from this for sure. The pbmining thread is locked now, people have been in rage-mode since the beginning of the year in there, it's going to spill out in a full on post freak out. Hopefully no one was heavily invested in it and had all their eggs in one basket. Anyone who had shares through me, I'm going to cover the loss and reinvest at my own expense with another provider.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
You dont have to be Einstein to work out the answer to that.The bit I love is I paid blackmailers so not paying you lot.Exactly what was he being blackmailed about??? People were told for weeks it was a scam but could you convince them...NO
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Please people I have said it before and on other sites,there is no jason no one or mining in Canada or Iceland this site is ran by east Europeans they have now moved on to new and fresher meat

Hmmm ... so you're implying the exposure of the person called "Jason" in the thread "PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts!" was just a convenient excuse to pack up and move on ? And the taking down of his Facebook profile is simply coincidental ? Or what ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9748560

 
hero member
Activity: 756
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Please people I have said it before and on other sites,there is no jason no one or mining in Canada or Iceland this site is ran by east Europeans they have now moved on to new and fresher meat www.pbmining/ru or look at mysitecost.ru/analyze/pbmining.com
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Unfortunately the extreme harassment and threats since the posting of a Facebook profile with friends/family information has lead to some horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands.  

Losses have been substantial due to complete invasion of privacy and some very harsh blackmail that followed thereafter, involving thoughts of suicide over some matters, but there will be a strong attempt to make things right even if it is unsuccessful.  

Well I do hope no-one has come to any Injury or Physical Harm !

So given the apparent severity of the threats you've :

1) given in to their demands and paid up
OR
2) contacted the Authorities, passed on all of the evidence of said threats and paid up
OR
3) contacted the Authorities, passed on all of the evidence of said threats

Please can you confirm the "Account Balance" is now accruing at about 1/10 of what it should be doing because it has been deliberately set like that and that it's NOT a technical error ? Thank you.

 
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1024
This is all really interesting. I didn't think PBMining "contracts" were true contracts, so I asked customer support a few months ago for a copy of the "contract" and here's what they said:

Quote from: [email protected]
"Contract" is a broad term used in Bitcoin Mining, and is not necessarily reflective upon a piece of paper that you would normally sign and date.  I can describe your very simple terms to you through e-mail.

1. No refunds on a contract if a payout has already been made.
2. Hash power efficiency will never change from what it is now, even if we have technical issues.  Our insurance covers you so that you will always receive the proper payments.
3. Contract will end in 5 years after it has been activated. 

If you have any more questions please let me know.

In the simple terms of their "contract" it says that the contract will end "5 years after it has been activated." So if PBMining stops paying out and rather just paying a lump sum out to "contract" holders, I believe that would be breaching their "contract" terms.

However since it isn't a true contract, I'm not sure how much of a legal case could be made against PBMining / Jason with this point.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1005
Ya, I'm not but buying any of this BS nor do I support his proposed “plan“.
I just thought one positive word before critcizing his statement would
be a good starter. Anyway, whatever he wants to do now, it will not
save him from legal prosecution.
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