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legendary
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January 08, 2023, 08:10:54 AM
#8
I think you meant you can have it on airplane mode but it can easily be turned off, right? Cheesy

Some voices are not convinced that everything can be properly turned off, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/old-phone-as-cold-storage-5377997
And, in your case at least, the point it to not turn everything off and use it as every day smartphone, isn't it? And that's, by far, much riskier.
legendary
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January 07, 2023, 11:44:31 PM
#7
Why are you trying to cram another feature into your phone? It already has a great amount of functionality, which makes the phone a multi-tool. As is usually the case with devices that try to combine the functions of many others, the quality of the functionality turns out to be worse. That is, the phone can have a hardware wallet function, but the level of protection will be much lower, and the risk of losing it also increases, since you always and everywhere carry the phone with you in everyday life. This is not suitable for large sums, because you don't carry all your savings with you and is only acceptable for pocket money, the loss of which you can afford. It is better not to combine the hardware wallet with the phone and keep it in a safe place. Moreover, you will rarely use HW anyway.

We'll have to choose between security and reliability between convenience and mobility.
legendary
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January 07, 2023, 05:32:33 PM
#6
Sort of like a ledger or cold card but a phone as well?
There are some hardware wallets that look like phones but they are actually hardware wallets, in first place this is Passport hardware wallet by Foundation.
Passport started as ColdCard fork but with open source software and hardware, with added improvements and much better look.
Keystone wallet also looks like smaller smartphone, and it only functions as hardware wallet.

You can use old smartphones for coins but I would not consider it to be safe as hardware wallet for several reasons, but you can use them in combination with other hardware wallets.

One guy even used old Nokia phone to turn it into Bitcoin wallet:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nokia-hardware-wallet-5420438

WiPhone can also be used for some Bitcoin wallet project:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wiphone-hardware-wallet-project-5403646
newbie
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January 07, 2023, 12:06:45 PM
#5
Has anyone seen the Solana Saga phone? Agree that relying on a phone's hardware wallet could lead to issues- but using it like a hot wallet could dramatically improve the user experience for mobile transactions
legendary
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January 07, 2023, 09:21:38 AM
#4
1.) Get a VPN and set it to where it's on as soon as the phone turns on.
Hardware wallet are more secure than online wallets, but they are mostly connected to SPV client which makes them not private. Just as you can use Tor with other wallets, it can helps in anonymity, not security.

2.) Airplane mode and connect to a secure internet connection
You have your phone on airplane mode, but it can easily be turned on. To discourage that kind of habit, it is best to remove the WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC and other components that can be used to connect to other devices and to the internet.
legendary
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January 07, 2023, 07:58:52 AM
#3
Is there a way to add hardware into a phone that is separate from the phone itself but can still interact with it from the inside to sign transactions and truly keep your bitcoins in your phone?

It is, but it was discussed and it's a very bad idea (read below). Plus, it makes the phone unnecessarily more expensive for people not needing that feature, hence not good for business.

And if someone stole the phone, they still have to unlock it with possibly a passcode, Face ID, Touch ID, and any other walls of security such as passwords to open apps.

I’ll have plenty of time to restore a wallet real quick I guess while the monkey whole stole my phone tries to get inside it.

Unless that monkey also steals you (or a picture of you) or your finger, or the last items you've had your fingerprints on.
No. Phone security is weak and "the monkey" may move your money out before you even notice the phone is missing.

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And about your initial question, I think hat Samsung had ideas in that direction, but a quick search has only revealed this topic (2021) and this one (2019) on the matter.
legendary
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January 07, 2023, 07:52:26 AM
#2
No, and you would not want one anyway.
A hardware wallet should be 100% offline.
No potential for it to send data someplace or for some other way to connect without the user physically doing it.

No potential for someone to install apps that may compromise security no possibility to run something that should not be run and so on.

-Dave

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January 07, 2023, 07:32:01 AM
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