Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 205. (Read 636443 times)

Maybe you should 

1 - Google CEOs are big Obama fans and donors.
2 - Google said they are planning to mine asteroids.
3 - Obama Seeks $17.7 Billion for NASA to Lasso Asteroids
4 - Obama has the reversed Midas Touch.

5 - Asteroid strike.

Sure, they're allowed to tell people what to say and not to say on their own site, but it seems pointless to have discussions on discussion-oriented sites like reddit if you tell people what to converse about.

Of course, you know that would happen.

But if you look at my words, the statement did not "deny global warming."

It is just an assertion regarding the "most serious threats."

I mean, it wasn't my intention to list all the threats.  For example, I don't consider Obama as serious a threat as an asteroid strike.

OK. Now you did it. You are going way too far from the mainstream. I will ask you to join reddit, first,  so you can be properly banned after.

Here is an assertion I am curious of opinions about.

The most serious threats to mankind for the next millennium are the possibility of global cooling, and the possibility of a meteor stike.

Yeah is akin to playing Whac-A-Mole when you are drunk and reaction speed has slowed.  


But he missed all the satire which laid (pun intended) out those ideas.  

I assume you are talking about the general topic of reddit banning deniers.

But why do make the claim that "it's about not posting science?"

That is your explanation.  But "banning deniers" is, well, "banning deniers".  It is not "banning those who derail topics" or "banning those who don't post linkys".

And by the way, banning people is different from deleting posts.

The problem isnt the denial.

the problem is they post shit from political blogs and then have a hissy fit when deleted and told to only post from peer reviewed journals or science articles that LINK to peer reviewed studies.

You cant just post a link to a some stupid blog saying scientists are too stupid to have known there were ice ages and periods of warmer times than now.

as well as posts like "OMG ICE HAS RECOVERED 63% SINCE LAST YEAR.. GLOBAL WARMING IS OVER, NOW WE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT AN ICE AGE"

ignoring the  "recovery" was after an extreme record low, several degrees of significance below prediction and that this "recovery", only got us back  to PREDICTED DECLINING LEVELS.

It isnt that they deny.
IT IS HOW THEY DENY.
and how they flip the fuck out, when you point this out to them. They will give you death threats and all sorts of madness.(seriously climate scientists and reports that dare even say that most scientists agree.. GET DEATH THREATS)

r/science is perfectly fine with studies made by lindzen that were published in real journals.

they are also perfectly fine with the very real science (that often gets posted to /r/climateskeptics) that finds certain aspects of global warming to be less than predicted.(though most has been worse)

not a damn thing wrong with that.

THEY WOULD DO THE SAME THING IF I POSTED HELLO KITTY BLOGS.
it isnt science.
it isnt about deniers.
its about not posting science.

I have actually had scientific articles deleted because they didnt link back to the science.

and I have zero problem with that.

I read that argument a while back, it wasn't terribly impressive.  Looked like just something to rouse the alarmists and create hysteria.

Reality is that if we were concerned about another ice age coming, we'd ramp up the coal power plants and CO2 emissions and do every thing possible to stop that Ice Age in it's tracks.

Thus the Warmies arguments by nature must remain oriented toward the planet warming, or they lose their lynchpin and need to tax us all for not producing CO2.

I guess they could just generalize and tax us for CO2 regardless of whether our production was positive, negative or zero. 

Well that was a nice TL;DR, summing up parts of the ideas discussed among the 25+ pages.

I did not read the 26 pages so far, but a few points:

IF Global Warming is happening, it has been shown that it actually can be a prelude to another Mini-IceAge
and this Winter certainly seems to point at that. This is what I think is happening.

Also, haven't you seen the pics and videos of where some of the temp sensors are placed in cities? They should
not even be in a city to begin with, and often they are on the roof right next to an air conditioner heat exchanger!

I DO think it's all mostly the money/carbon tax as this is what drives everything. If we hurt our manufacturers,
we hurt our/your country because it causes you to lean on outside countries more and hurts your military
capacity.

Like a simple parlor trick, the networks are able to make skeptical scientists vanish, at least from the eyes of their viewers.

In some cases, the broadcast networks have failed to include such scientists for years, while including alarmist scientists within the past six months. ABC, CBS and NBC's lengthy omission of scientists critical of global warming alarmism propped up the myth of a scientific consensus, despite the fact that many scientists and thousands of peer-reviewed studies disagree.

Neither CBS nor ABC have included a skeptical scientists in their news shows within the past 1,300 days, but both networks included alarmists within the past 160 days -- CBS as recently as 22 days ago. When the networks did include other viewpoints, the experts were dismissed as "out of the scientific mainstream" or backed by "oil and coal companies."

The networks were able to promote the myth that there is a scientific consensus for man-made, catastrophic climate change by including climate alarmists much more often than skeptical scientists and by challenging the credentials of the skeptics that they did include.

There are thousands of skeptical scientists, so it's not like the networks couldn't find any. Marc Morano, who runs the website Climate Depot, has published a special report listing more than 1,000 dissenting scientists worldwide who dispute man-made global warming claims made by the likes of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.

CBS was the worst, ignoring skeptical scientists for 1,391 days, ever since the May 15, 2010, "Evening News." That night, CBS interviewed former NASA climatologist, Dr. Roy Spencer during an extensive profile of alarmist meteorologist, and non-Ph.D., Dan Satterfield.

It was just 22 days ago, on Feb. 12, 2014, that CBS included an alarmist physicist, Dr. Michio Kaku on "This Morning." Kaku is a contributor to "This Morning" and that day he warned of the "heating up of the North Pole" which "could cause gigantic storms of historic proportions."

ABC last included a skeptical scientist 1,383 days ago. During the May 23, 2010, segment of "World News," ABC played a brief, 23-second clip of Princeton-educated Dr. Fred Singer expressing his skepticism over man-made climate change, along with clips of two alarmist scientists. Singer's was the only opposing view in that report and his views were actually taken from a much earlier interview aired on ABC March 23, 2008.

Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, a Princeton professor, appeared on ABC "World News" Sept. 27, 2013, arguing that climate change is "bearing down on us," only 160 days ago.

NBC did a far better job than the other broadcast networks, but the last time they included a skeptical scientist was still a whopping 298 days ago. NBC's May 13, 2013, "Today" included Dr. Jay Lehr of the Heartland Institute. Lehr criticized the supposed link between carbon dioxide and global temperatures.

An alarmist scientist appeared on NBC much more recently, however, only 115 days ago.  On Nov. 11, 2013, "Today" Dr. Raghu Murtugudde predicted the increase of high-intensity hurricanes during a segment on how global warming would make hurricanes more powerful.

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/sean-long/cold-shoulder-abc-cbs-exclude-scientists-critical-global-warming-more-1300-days

I guess the reason I am interested and post on this subject is that it is not a "complex" subject, but one in which chaotic behavior predominates, and in which people try to apply all their little rationalizations and prejudices to.

This from the article you posted from....

Here is my next prediction – and remember, I have been consistently right about these. The next phase of the comedy will feature increasingly frantic attempts to bolt epicycles onto the models. These epicycles will have names like “ENSO”, “standing wave” and “Atlantic Oscillation”.

....and my comment is that in the last several years, there have been numerous "climate skeptics" warn that these factors were being misunderestimated.

But they had to keep shutting the skeptics down.  Now warmers want to hijack the same arguments?

What say you to that, Reddit moderators?

Hahaha

Stick a fork in that AGW turkey, all d'juice done oozed outta her...

Causes and implications of the pause

Dan's comments are always satirical:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5297&cpage=1#comment-426394

Chipotle stirred up the media and guacamole lovers with news that it could "suspend" guacamole from its menu due to global warming.
But a restaurant spokesman tells the Los Angeles Times: "This is way overblown."
The annual report from the restaurant chain warned:
"Increasing weather volatility or other long-term changes in global weather patterns, including any changes associated with global climate change, could have a significant impact on the price or availability of some of our ingredients. ...
"In the event of cost increases with respect to one or more of our raw ingredients, we may choose to temporarily suspend serving menu items, such as guacamole or one or more of our salsas, rather than paying the increased cost for the ingredients."

Chipotle's Chris Arnold told the L.A. Times on Wednesday morning that the disclosure was routine: "As a public company ... we are required to disclose any potential issues that could have potential impact on our business, and we do that very thoroughly."
So far, Chipotle is handling weather-related problems with ingredients just fine.
 As NPR points out, avocados seem to be in plentiful supply despite vagaries of climate change that resulted in "lemon-sized" Hass avocados.
"The sky is not falling," Arnold said. "We have guac in all of our restaurants."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/shareitnow/la-sh-chipotle-guacamole-20140305,0,1040665.story#ixzz2v756nzr5
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We are safe from Guacamolegeddon people! Back to Defcon 4

Avocados, most of the good ones are grown down in Mexico.  They are a broad leafed evergreen plant, basically tropical. 

Can't see why there would be any effect of "climate change" on the production of them.

It’s your choice, America. Fix the climate, or the guac gets it.

Chipotle Inc. is warning investors that extreme weather events “associated with global climate change” might eventually affect the availability of some of its ingredients. If availability is limited, prices will rise — and Chipotle isn’t sure it’s willing to pay.

“Increasing weather volatility or other long-term changes in global weather patterns, including any changes associated with global climate change, could have a significant impact on the price or availability of some of our ingredients,” the popular chain, whose Sofritas vegan tofu dish recently went national, said in its annual report released last month. “In the event of cost increases with respect to one or more of our raw ingredients we may choose to temporarily suspend serving menu items, such as guacamole or one or more of our salsas, rather than paying the increased cost for the ingredients.”

Chipotle did say that it recognizes the pain it (and its devotees) would have to go through if it decided to suspend a menu item. “Any such changes to our available menu may negatively impact our restaurant traffic and comparable restaurant sales, and could also have an adverse impact on our brand,” the filing read.




http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/04/3360731/chipotle-guacamole-crisis/#

Well, now that's just fucking brilliant. 

What do you say?  Maybe they could all call in on a HOTline?

"Yeah, it's hot here in texas in August.  I'm going to get another beer OH NO I DIES!"

"Ugh.  Eskimo Barrow Alaska calling.  Yes very very cold.  Igloo covered six meters ice caving in-AYIIII!!!"

Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J.


“Millions are already dying, or have died, as a result of changes in the climate,” Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., told Salon.

Holt, a plasma physicist and eight-term congressman (and five-time “Jeopardy!” champion), last month announced he’ll leave the House in January. For “future generations, who will pay an even greater price than the current generation from climate change,” Holt told Salon late last week, “it will be hard to explain to them the inaction of America and the U.S. Congress.” A condensed version of our conversation – on climate change, the Keystone Pipeline and colleagues who “don’t really have a clue of how you sustain a productive science enterprise” – follows.

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/03/gops_inane_war_on_science_plasma_physicist_congressman_takes_on_the_denialists/

Clearly all heat in public housing should be turned off.  For the public guuuud.