Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 50. (Read 636455 times)

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Quote from: hdbuck on April 26, 2016, 01:09:07 AM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Try not to think lazy. I can do all kinds of sources. But then you are not in a position to take the moral high ground and from that high perch, with a booming voice proclaim to the heavens what is an acceptable source. You are the guy that refused to look at actual sourced satellite temperature data, IIRC.

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Wrong, I looked at it and saw the exact definition of the words "temperature increase"

When I linked to the actual original satellite data, you found some excuse to disregard it.

So what the fuck is your problem, dude? You don't win a scientific argument with insults, or with denials. Denying the satellite data...

Wait, are you a Denier?

I never insulted you. Simply put the fact that you get banned for giving out false arguments and lies (like the blog article you gave that willingly misinterpreted a scientific article).

The parts to focus on I have bolded to help you.

Again, no insult and I looked at your data. Which showed what anyone on the world but the climate change denyers call a rise.

The actual satellite data sets show no statistically significant warming. In lay terms, that means no trend. Do you have any other exaggerations or mis representations of data to bring out to support your true faith and belief?

Because I've got news for you. When a scientific controversy must be supported at all costs, and when that means it is necessary to use mis representation, denial, obfuscation, and ad hominem attacks to support it, as far as science is concerned, it's over for those hypotheses. But don't worry — you are NOT ALONE. There appear to be quite a few people that would believe a fantasy over facts.

http://www.steynonline.com/7517/steyn-vs-the-big-climate-enforcers

Prof Judith Curry, the former chair of Earth and atmospheric sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, added: "It is inappropriate to dismiss the arguments of the so-called contrarians, since their disagreement with the consensus reflects conflicts of values and a preference for the empirical (i.e. what has been observed) versus the hypothetical (i.e. what is projected from climate models).

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Quote from: SgtMoth on April 26, 2016, 01:01:05 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36130346

Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth'

no kidding, that's real science: photosynthesis.

YOu're wrong and that's what's interesting. Photosynthesis has nothing to do with science, it's a complete natural phenomenon in which humans can't interfere willingly.
The article is intereting because it shows Nature is able to adapt itself faster than what we thought. But there was nothing obvious in the fact that higher CO2 concentration helps trees. The perfect contrary phenomenon has already been demonstrated. This article might prove that greening outweights asphyxion of plants, but even them are not sure of it. And will it be enough to stock the CO2? Even the authors of the article are sckeptical about that.

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Quote from: SgtMoth on April 26, 2016, 01:01:05 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36130346

Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth'

By one of the authors:
"But we can't be certain yet when that would happen. Hopefully, the world will follow the Paris agreement objectives and limit warming below 2C"

Though it's an excellent news if Nature is able to adapt itself faster than what we expected of course!

But don't you think it's a bit foolish to just throw a stone in the hope that it won't touch anything?

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on April 25, 2016, 02:50:43 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 02:30:18 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Quote from: SgtMoth on April 26, 2016, 01:01:05 AM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Try not to think lazy. I can do all kinds of sources. But then you are not in a position to take the moral high ground and from that high perch, with a booming voice proclaim to the heavens what is an acceptable source. You are the guy that refused to look at actual sourced satellite temperature data, IIRC.

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Wrong, I looked at it and saw the exact definition of the words "temperature increase"

When I linked to the actual original satellite data, you found some excuse to disregard it.

So what the fuck is your problem, dude? You don't win a scientific argument with insults, or with denials. Denying the satellite data...

Wait, are you a Denier?

I never insulted you. Simply put the fact that you get banned for giving out false arguments and lies (like the blog article you gave that willingly misinterpreted a scientific article).

The parts to focus on I have bolded to help you.

Again, no insult and I looked at your data. Which showed what anyone on the world but the climate change denyers call a rise.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36130346

Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth'

no kidding, that's real science: photosynthesis.

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buy silver!

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36130346

Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth'

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People involved in crypto-currencies are an interesting lot but they all have a huge bias against accepted reality. It is conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. I'm not saying they're anymore 'wrong' than the average Joe, but their biases in this regard are far beyond the average Joe.

Finding a hive of climate science deniers on here should be of no surprise to anyone.

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Quote from: sdp on April 25, 2016, 04:34:34 PM

I will get banned from reddit for this, but I am a Flat Earth denier!

Many people live in denial, you're not alone.

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Quote from: sdp on April 25, 2016, 04:34:34 PM

I will get banned from reddit for this, but I am a Flat Earth denier!

But are you a Denier of the Warming of Flat?

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I will get banned from reddit for this, but I am a Flat Earth denier!

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Quote from: mOgliE on April 25, 2016, 02:50:43 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 02:30:18 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 02:30:18 PM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Try not to think lazy. I can do all kinds of sources. But then you are not in a position to take the moral high ground and from that high perch, with a booming voice proclaim to the heavens what is an acceptable source. You are the guy that refused to look at actual sourced satellite temperature data, IIRC.

Quote

Wrong, I looked at it and saw the exact definition of the words "temperature increase"

When I linked to the actual original satellite data, you found some excuse to disregard it.

So what the fuck is your problem, dude? You don't win a scientific argument with insults, or with denials. Denying the satellite data...

Wait, are you a Denier?

I never insulted you. Simply put the fact that you get banned for giving out false arguments and lies (like the blog article you gave that willingly misinterpreted a scientific article).

The parts to focus on I have bolded to help you.

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Try not to think lazy. I can do all kinds of sources. But then you are not in a position to take the moral high ground and from that high perch, with a booming voice proclaim to the heavens what is an acceptable source. You are the guy that refused to look at actual sourced satellite temperature data, IIRC.

Quote

Wrong, I looked at it and saw the exact definition of the words "temperature increase"

When I linked to the actual original satellite data, you found some excuse to disregard it.

So what the fuck is your problem, dude? You don't win a scientific argument with insults, or with denials. Denying the satellite data...

Wait, are you a Denier?

I never insulted you. Simply put the fact that you get banned for giving out false arguments and lies (like the blog article you gave that willingly misinterpreted a scientific article).

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 25, 2016, 11:10:18 AM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Try not to think lazy. I can do all kinds of sources. But then you are not in a position to take the moral high ground and from that high perch, with a booming voice proclaim to the heavens what is an acceptable source. You are the guy that refused to look at actual sourced satellite temperature data, IIRC.

When I linked to the actual original satellite data, you found some excuse to disregard it.

So what the fuck is your problem, dude? You don't win a scientific argument with insults, or with denials. Denying the satellite data...

Wait, are you a Denier?

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Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

You're banned from reddit not because you defend climate denying.

You're all banned from reddit as you should be banned from here simply because you keep giving out totally shitty sources and present them as reliable scientific sources.

Spendulus

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Quote from: AnonyMint on December 17, 2013, 10:08:39 PM

Isn't refreshing to share what one feels about the climate on a forum, without the fear of being targeted by the Global Warming Stasi?

You are all welcome.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like you re persecuted sure... you just say suit so it's normal that people treat you this way. But don't go like you re harrassed by people or anything. You ve always been free to argue about everything! You re not some kind of resistant don't get too arrogant...

Quite the reverse. We all ARE THE BANNED FROM REDDIT.

We are those who punched back twice as hard and only grew stronger.

And don't complain - because your ideas are welcome too.

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Read all the 27 comments at the provided link. You can't just be lazy to read only what I commented here. I can't copy this entire linked page of comments into this thread.

There is no science of man-made global warming. Period. The comments at the linked thread are irrefutable.

Never in millions of years of cycles has temperature risen after CO2 does. Temperate always rises at least 600 years before C02 does. So C02 can't be the cause. Duh!

Al Gore lied. He didn't show his chart zoomed in.

Carrying on from the posts I made in the past refuting AGW:

Quote from: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/historical-evidence-of-climate-change-links-to-political-change/

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Posted Apr 25, 2016 by Martin Armstrong

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QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; I have read your thesis on global warming and that this is only part of a natural cycle. I admit that you have persuaded me whereas the claims are false especially that New York City should have been under water by now according Al Gore. You mentioned that there was global warming which enabled the Vikings to reach America because the ice melted. My question is rather blunt. If we are headed now into a global cooling period, what is the historical evidence that society also declines?

Thank you in advance

PD

ANSWER: I have reported that the peat fires in Borneo and Sumatra have now exceeded all the emissions from the entire U.S. economy. This whole movement is simply to raise taxes on the bogus theory of global warming. We are not so powerful to alter the course of cyclical movement of the planet. Bouts of global cooling (ice ages) as well as warming periods predate the combustion engine and mankind. It is rather questionable analysis to claim we have altered the climate. We are capable of polluting things, true. But actually altering the climate is something beyond our power.

Volcanoes are a major issue in climate change. Yes, studies reveal that the Hawaiian Kilauea volcanoe eruption discharges between 8,000 and 30,000 metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each day, which has been going on for more than 20 years. However, gas studies worldwide by volcanologists have calculated that global volcanic CO2 production on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually. But this is really in the absence of any real catastrophic eruptions. Volcanoes emit also Sulfur dioxide SO2 which automobiles emit very little. When Mount St. Helens erupted on May 18th, 1980, it produced 1.5 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide on that one day and about 2 million metric tons for the entire event far more than automobiles.

Moreover, volcanic production of CO2 is by far not really the issue in climate change. Instead of global warming from CO2, it is the plume of ash in the sky which actually blocks the sun and reverses the climate from warm to cold like sitting under an umbrella at the beach. I have discussed Mount Tambora which erupted in 1815 and threw into the air so much ash that it snowed during the summer of 1816 in New York City. It became known as 18-hundred-and-froze-to-death. I have shown the correlation of that eruption to wheat prices.

I have also written about the Maunder Minimum (<--- returning again in 2030!) which sent the Earth into a cold period 300 years ago from the perspective of the cycle energy output from the Sun. I have also gone into the evolution of science which has been set in motion by the very discovery of a frozen woolly rhinoceros which altered science in many fields. I have explain how the temperature at the time of the American Revolution was at its lowest point in the cycle.

All of that said, the ice core samples have revealed that there were two major volcanic eruptions in 536 and 540 AD which sent Europe into an ice age and wiped out the Roman civilization. Flavius Odoacer (433–493) was a soldier who in 476 became the first King of Italy (476–493) after deposing Romulus Augustus, the last official Roman emperor in the West.

Odoacer was overthrown by Theodoric the Great (454-526), the Ostrogoth. He was followed by Athalaric (526-534), and a few others then finally Baduila (541-552). So while Rome officially ends in the West with Romulus Augustus in 476AD, the Ostrogoths fade out after 552 due to the climate changes. In the East, the change in climate appears to have also possibly been linked to the Plague of Justinian (541–542) which was a pandemic that afflicted the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, especially its capital Constantinople, the Sassanid Empire, and port cities around the entire Mediterranean Sea. I have written about the political turmoil there in Byzantium which preceded the plague during the Nika Revolt of 532AD. I have also written about how empires die. It does seem that when temperatures decline, civil unrest rises and this increases the risk of revolutions.

When Thera erupted around 1645-1650BC, this created a climate change and marked the end of the Minoan civilization. They were conquered by the Mycenae who also captured Troy. As the weather turned cold, Greece goes into a Dark Age. The Greeks migrated and other places called them the “sea people” since they did not know where they came from as the invaded Northern Africa. Homer wrote about the period before the Dark Age known as the Heroic Period. Scholars thought this was fiction about Troy and Mycenae until Heinrich Schliemann (1822 – 1890) set out and discovered what Homer wrote about was history.

The historical evidence is rather extensive. It does appear that as we enter into a global cooling period, governments will fall, disease will increase, and the risk of Western Civilization declining sharply all become historically possible.

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