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Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/
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So what's the game here?  Logon and let your propaganda masters tell you who is a "Denier" and then "call them out?"



Pretty much.
legendary
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Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/
.....

So what's the game here?  Logon and let your propaganda masters tell you who is a "Denier" and then "call them out?"

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Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/

I seriously couldn't upload this picture to imgur.com (even though I can upload other pictures, and this one obviously works), I wonder if they can tell where I got it from and are censoring it.



wow.
I was able to do it!
Don't know where you had a problem. But it was fine to do it on mine!

It might be because I had named the file obama on my computer at first. I tired to change names but it still wouldn't let me upload it. I notice they give me errors depending on file names a bit nowadays. I just rename them then. But this one I tried about 4 or 5 times. Oh well.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/

I seriously couldn't upload this picture to imgur.com (even though I can upload other pictures, and this one obviously works), I wonder if they can tell where I got it from and are censoring it.



wow.


I was able to do it!
Don't know where you had a problem. But it was fine to do it on mine!
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
I do not believe that Global Warming exists from Carbon Dioxide. There are many other ways that Global Warming can be produced. I think there may be Global Climate Change. But, the idea of it being formed by carbon dioxide is a terrible one! Why did scientist put this hypothesis ahead around two decades ago and have still not been able to prove it? When it is provedn by 20 different scientists from each of the 7 continents, then I will believe that global warming exists, when each scientist has produced 100000 pages on their experiment, how they cam up with it, the affects of global warmings and calculations for when "THE WORLD WILL END!"
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Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/

I seriously couldn't upload this picture to imgur.com (even though I can upload other pictures, and this one obviously works), I wonder if they can tell where I got it from and are censoring it.



wow.
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Video: Obama Asks Americans To "Call Out The Climate Change Deniers"

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." Adolf Hitler. It is scary to see how sick our country has become.

https://www.barackobama.com/climate-change-deniers/#/

I seriously couldn't upload this picture to imgur.com (even though I can upload other pictures, and this one obviously works), I wonder if they can tell where I got it from and are censoring it.

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SCIENTISTS TO TURN RELIGION TO GET CLIMATE ACTION...


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Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, said Pope Francis' encyclical Laudato Si is less about ecology than morality and fairness.


I was just watching a video on him....World Deems Pope as Noah

Matthew 24:37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Noah was telling people, look you have to prepare, a flood is coming.

Pope Francis is telling people, look we need to stop this, a flood is coming (glaciers melting from Global Warming). Of course God told us, the rainbow was a sign there would never be a worldwide flood again, just another instance of him not listening to the bible.

From the National Catholic Reporter: Francis: World close to suicide over climate change

The person in the video is claiming that the US will institute a law where you can't worship/rest on Saturday (the Sabbath) and have to rest on Sunday (the day of the sun-god that the Catholic Church worships). I don't know about that, but I do know that the pope has tied the two together.

From Pope Francis' encyclical Laudato Si, that they mention:

"It protects human action from becoming empty activism; it also prevents that unfettered greed and sense of isolation which make us seek personal gain to the detriment of all else. The law of weekly rest forbade work on the seventh day, “so that your ox and your donkey may have rest, and the son of your maidservant, and the stranger, may be refreshed” (Ex 23:12). Rest opens our eyes to the larger picture and gives us renewed sensitivity to the rights of others. And so the day of rest, centred on the Eucharist, sheds it light on the whole week, and motivates us to greater concern for nature and the poor."
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SCIENTISTS TO TURN RELIGION TO GET CLIMATE ACTION...






 PARIS (AP) -- The cold hard numbers of science haven't spurred the world to curb runaway global warming. So as climate negotiators struggle in Paris, some scientists who appealed to the rational brain are enlisting what many would consider a higher power: the majesty of faith.

It's not God versus science, but followers of God and science together trying to save humanity and the planet, they say.

Physicist John Schellnhuber, founder of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, said he has been coming to these international talks for 11 years and essentially seen negotiators throw up their hands and say "sorry guys we tried our best." And no one protested. But this time, with the power of Pope Francis' encyclical earlier this year calling global warming a moral issue and an even more energized interfaith community, Schellnhuber feels the world's faithful are watching and will hold world leaders accountable.

"They know they will be measured against the encyclical," Schellnhuber, a member of the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences, said Saturday at a Catholic Church event. Ever the scientist, Schellnhuber said on Saturday he hadn't seen any evidence yet during the first week of negotiations that this will happen, but he has faith it will.

In the first five days of climate negotiations, interfaith activists came, fasted, talked to media, buttonholed leaders and prayed. On Saturday night in a downtown Paris chapel, hundreds of people, many of them prostrated on the ground, sang and prayed for the climate negotiators and mostly for the world.

Faith "is much deeper" than science, said Caroline Bader of the Geneva-based Lutheran World Federation.

And so are their numbers. Bader said interfaith leaders recently handed top United Nations negotiators a petition with 1.8 million signatures begging for meaningful climate action. Such action was also sought by Brother Alois Taize, a Catholic member of the ecumenical monastery, as he was preaching at the song-laden service about how the faithful and the world have to open their eyes to solutions to global warming.

"The environment movement, which has primarily been a secular one, has realized that over the last 30 years or so it's not been that successful in achieving its goals," Joe Ware of Christian Aid wrote in an email from the Paris talks. "Increasingly it has looked to faith groups for help in mobilizing a broader movement of people calling for action on climate change. They are actually natural allies as almost all faiths have a theology of creation care at their heart."

Scripps Institution of Oceanography scientist Veerabhadran Ramanathan, a non-Catholic who advised Pope Francis on climate and is on the pontiff's science academy, says he thinks this new alliance will play a major role in what he hopes will be a historic agreement.

But for Ramanathan, now a member of the Holy See's delegation to the climate talks, it's more than science or history. About four years ago he had a moment that he called "a revelation."

He was presenting a paper on glacier melt to the scientists at the pontifical academy. It was academic and laid out the conclusions in cold hard facts. But then the chancellor to the academy, a bishop, added one sentence to the end: "If we want justice and peace, we must protect the habitat that sustains us."

It was quickly agreed to and Ramanathan started to look at climate science not as an academic issue but an issue of justice, because those who are hurt the most by climate change are the world's poorest 3 billion. He started volunteering, working with the poor and examining his own consumption habits, like how much he drives.

Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, said Pope Francis' encyclical Laudato Si is less about ecology than morality and fairness.

"Climate change is a global problem with serious social, environmental, economic, distributional and political dimensions, and poses one of the greatest challenges for humanity," the bishop said Saturday. "The poor populations are the most severely affected even though they are the least responsible."

Pope Francis, called a rock star by young religious climate activists, was not in Paris. But as he spoke to faithful in St. Peter's Square Sunday he appealed to those deciding on climate change measures to show courage by also fighting poverty, saying "the two choices go together."

He asked for prayers so that those making decisions on climate measures receive "the courage to always use as their criterion of choice the greater good of the human family."

Marcia McNutt, a former U.S. Geological Survey director and Science magazine editor who is about to become the head of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, can't say enough about the importance of the pope's message.

"You can argue the science until cows come home, but that just appeals to people's intellect," McNutt said. "The pope's argument appeals to someone's heart. Whenever you appeal to someone's heart that's a much more powerful message."

In some ways, the enlisting of the faith movement is a sign of scientists' desperation, but it's also a realization of the need for a moral revolution on climate, said Ramanathan, who actually briefed the pope on climate in a parking lot.

The world will not act enough on climate change, Ramanathan said, "until we teach this in every church, every mosque, every synagogue, every temple."




http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN_GOD_FACTOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-06-15-15-25




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They really call freakin carbon dioxide pollution. Don´t take my word for it, look it up. That´s how crazy these cultists are. It must have been a huge blow to those nuts when grains produced record yields last year and are on track for a new high this year. Wheat price is at a 20-year low.
The effects of carbon dioxide can easily be tabulated.  The first order effects would be some slight change in the emission of IR from co2 absorbing sunlight, higher plant growth, possibly some ocean  and fresh water pH level change, and so forth. 

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Have you noticed how the more the world DROWNS in an overabundance of stuff, foodstuffs, energy stuffs all kinds of stuff, the louder all those preachers of scarcity get? And have you wondered who gets those ideas of scarcity in a world that is always supposed to be running out of stuff, into their heads? Who would benefit?
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They really call freakin carbon dioxide pollution. Don´t take my word for it, look it up. That´s how crazy these cultists are. It must have been a huge blow to those nuts when grains produced record yields last year and are on track for a new high this year. Wheat price is at a 20-year low.
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Sean Penn Blames Climate Change Denial on Cult-Like ‘Fox Network Thinking’

Sean Penn is in Paris this week for the big climate change summit, and in an interview he took a swipe at Fox News over widespread climate denial.

Now, apparently Penn doesn’t actually believe “climate skeptics” actually exist. He told Bloomberg, “I think there are people who indulge in a culture of what can be reduced to Fox network thinking. That has nothing to do with the politics that apply to the protection of quality of life in any sense.”

He compared it to someone being “a member of a cult” and said he has no interest in engaging with someone like that...


http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-penn-blames-climate-change-denial-on-cult-like-fox-network-thinking/


http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-paris-climate-summit-interviews/




Well, the cult that he belongs to believes that CO2 is pollution and as such harmful to the world. Which brings into question what they´re going to do about all the exhalation going on every day from mice to men and all the other things. Maybe it´ll turn into one of them suicide cults to help solve the problem.

This phrase is worthy of meditating over with giant "OMMMM...." sounds from the startup of a thousand coal plants.

the politics that apply to the protection of quality of life
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Sean Penn Blames Climate Change Denial on Cult-Like ‘Fox Network Thinking’

Sean Penn is in Paris this week for the big climate change summit, and in an interview he took a swipe at Fox News over widespread climate denial.

Now, apparently Penn doesn’t actually believe “climate skeptics” actually exist. He told Bloomberg, “I think there are people who indulge in a culture of what can be reduced to Fox network thinking. That has nothing to do with the politics that apply to the protection of quality of life in any sense.”

He compared it to someone being “a member of a cult” and said he has no interest in engaging with someone like that...


http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-penn-blames-climate-change-denial-on-cult-like-fox-network-thinking/


http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-paris-climate-summit-interviews/




Well, the cult that he belongs to believes that CO2 is pollution and as such harmful to the world. Which brings into question what they´re going to do about all the exhalation going on every day from mice to men and all the other things. Maybe it´ll turn into one of them suicide cults to help solve the problem.
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Bill Nye Explains The Connection Between Climate Change And Terrorism In Paris



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-nye-climate-change-paris-terrorism_565ccdebe4b079b2818b810b


he is so fkn funny....
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Sean Penn Blames Climate Change Denial on Cult-Like ‘Fox Network Thinking’

Sean Penn is in Paris this week for the big climate change summit, and in an interview he took a swipe at Fox News over widespread climate denial.

Now, apparently Penn doesn’t actually believe “climate skeptics” actually exist. He told Bloomberg, “I think there are people who indulge in a culture of what can be reduced to Fox network thinking. That has nothing to do with the politics that apply to the protection of quality of life in any sense.”

He compared it to someone being “a member of a cult” and said he has no interest in engaging with someone like that...


http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-penn-blames-climate-change-denial-on-cult-like-fox-network-thinking/


http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-paris-climate-summit-interviews/


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So far I do not remember deniers patting each other on the back for being smart. ...

To be honest, I do.  Seems that there were some serious high-five's going around when one of those (purported) professors was run off within a few days.  It was a significant and meaningful win, I thought, because it involved the application of actual science and logic to a large degree with relatively little fallback to run-of-the-mill name calling theatrics.  It was pretty interesting to see how little ammo the guy actually had.



When a horse has to be put down, it is never a joyous moment. When someone has to be put down with common sense, logic and science, it not a joyous moment. You hope to hear something not just based on blind faith. This is when you just have to let the professionals do their job and watch...

 Wink


Here's what it comes down to.  Check out the latest Sci American article, which bluntly admits that what "Deniers" have been saying for 20 years - is RIGHT.  And who do they quote?   Pat Michaels, who was ruthlessly insulted as a Denier (including one entire NYT article by Paul Krugman), fired from at least one job, and who never changed one bit the way he saw the facts.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-will-not-be-dangerous-for-a-long-time/


In 1990 the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was predicting that if emissions rose in a “business as usual” way, which they have done, then global average temperature would rise at the rate of about 0.3 degree Celsius per decade (with an uncertainty range of 0.2 to 0.5 degree C per decade). In the 25 years since, temperature has risen at about 0.1 to 0.2 degree C per decade, depending on whether surface or satellite data is used. The IPCC, in its most recent assessment report, lowered its near-term forecast for the global mean surface temperature over the period 2016 to 2035 to just 0.3 to 0.7 degree C above the 1986–2005 level. That is a warming of 0.1 to 0.2 degree C per decade, in all scenarios, including the high-emissions ones.

At the same time, new studies of climate sensitivity—the amount of warming expected for a doubling of carbon dioxide levels from 0.03 to 0.06 percent in the atmosphere—have suggested that most models are too sensitive. The average sensitivity of the 108 model runs considered by the IPCC is 3.2 degrees C. As Pat Michaels, a climatologist and self-described global warming skeptic at the Cato Institute testified to Congress in July, certain studies of sensitivity published since 2011 find an average sensitivity of 2 degrees C.

Such lower sensitivity does not contradict greenhouse-effect physics. The theory of dangerous climate change is based not just on carbon dioxide warming but on positive and negative feedback effects from water vapor and phenomena such as clouds and airborne aerosols from coal burning. Doubling carbon dioxide levels, alone, should produce just over 1 degree C of warming. These feedback effects have been poorly estimated, and almost certainly overestimated, in the models.


Here's the proper way to look at this type of matter.  If one or several scientists, however many, put their weight behind a statement of this sort "global average temperature would rise at the rate of about 0.3 degree Celsius per decade (with an uncertainty range of 0.2 to 0.5 degree C per decade)" and if the resulting temperatures are outside the "uncertainty range," they should be fired from their jobs with cause.

The scientists that made the correct predictions should then be promoted.

This is not complicated.
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The truth is scientists can't even prove the earth is a globe let alone that it's warming.

Did you see this video?

Global warming, Climate change, & Global flooding, only on a Flat Earth

We're on a flat surface inside a climate controlled artificial dome, the Sun is 32 miles wide and 3k miles up. This man-made climate change is such a scam, our creators are obviously able to control the climate on a whim.

I never thought of this!  If the COFE (Creator of Flat Earth) has a thermostat, which of course he would have, then who could possibly argue that man was in control of the temperature of the Flat?
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The truth is scientists can't even prove the earth is a globe let alone that it's warming.

Did you see this video?

Global warming, Climate change, & Global flooding, only on a Flat Earth

We're on a flat surface inside a climate controlled artificial dome, the Sun is 32 miles wide and 3k miles up. This man-made climate change is such a scam, our creators are obviously able to control the climate on a whim.
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The truth is scientists can't even prove the earth is a globe let alone that it's warming.

Measurements of gravity began in the 17th century,
using precision pendulums. 
These were carried on ships, which led to the discovery
that the earth was not a perfect sphere,
but had a larger radius
near the equator.

Cool lyrics. Now you need a cool beat to educate the masses...



 Cool


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