Topic: redsn0w and others - page 2. (Read 1570 times)

I have read the thread in question. You were buying trust. You originally required that trust be left for you and the lack of trust being left would result in you not repaying the loan (you later dropped this requirement after you were given negative trust). You had posted that you were considering to buy LTC with your BTC to use as collateral. You claimed that you wanted to buy more LTCgear shares however your scheme resulted in you having less funds available to pay for them and as a result your request (and reason) was illogical.

You were clearly trying to buy trust, here is a direction quote from your loan request:


Contractual obligation to leave positive trust under threat of default is not "a courtesy", it is trust buying, and you deserve the negative feedback.

No. Vod thought I was buying trust because he thought I didn't need the loan. His feedback states "By his own admission, he does not need loans because he has the BTC to use as collateral. He *requires* you to leave him positive trust after he repays the loan or he will leave you negative feedback."

Neither of this is accurate. I explained why I needed the loan several times and why I was willing to use LTC as collateral. If you look at the reference he points to, I ask that positive trust be given to me as a courtesy. This is not about trust buying. Prior to the negative feedback I asked Vod to discuss with me how I should word a loan request to satisfy his criteria. I pointed to the escrow/collateral sticky at the top of the forums several times but instead of responding to me and helping me understand, he ignored me and negrated me. I view this as unacceptable behavior.

Redsn0w tends to only point out scams that everyone should see or scams that he is told about (he usually doesn't require evidence for this). The only reason he is on default trust list is because he gave CanaryInTheMine positive trust a while back.

Devthedev has removed his trust.

Vod is very good at spotting scams and calling out scammers. His feedback is accurate as you were buying trust.

Your trust rating to Redsn0w is accurate because you are right he should be more careful with others' property. I am actually surprised that the community did not react more negatively towards him (maybe because he did not have enough time to 'make it right' for all parties involved before the situation resolved itself)

I'm getting a little tired of the redsn0w/vod/etc. trust game. These people need to be removed from default trust. But (removed)'s accusation of trust buying is what pushed me to post this.

I was negrated by vod for asking for a loan as a newbie*. I was very careful to read the escrow and collateral terms stickied at the top of the lending page. Yet I was negrated without a chance to discuss or defend my position, based on a misunderstanding vod had. Vod has still not removed his negrate despite his reasoning being self-evidently false.

Next redsn0w negrated me solely because of what vod said. Redsnow was rather mocking in PM. I think he's sent me three unsolicited PMs so far, I don't really have an interest in talking with him. But I did negrate them both for abuses of the trust system.

In the meantime of this, I took out and repaid a loan with a forum member despite vod and redsnow's childish behavior.

Fast forward, I recently negrated redsnow 0 risked BTC for his screw-up handling the moreia case. This is my only connection to the moreia case. I negrated him as a warning to others that he should not be trusted as escrow. My rationale is below**. However, now (removed) has negrated me for selling negative trust. For a reference he points at two users selling negative trust who are not me.

This situation tires me. Just so you all know, *I am not a newbie, I have been here for years, and as printshop I run several large assets on NXT AE. I plan on being here as printshop and others for a very long time. Trust is not a commodity for you to flippantly throw in the face of others.

My rationale for tagging redsnow is not selling negative trust. (removed) is lying and his reference does not point to anything to do with me:

"Yeah that might an issue..not sure how he will handle that. I would eat the .8 if I were the escrow...exactly why I avoid escrowing."
Blazedout419 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005835)

"That's a mistake on your part redsn0w.. Whenever you escrow an account (or anything) you must ensure it is in your FULL control."
marcotheminer (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marcotheminer-147773)

"I agree with marco,its a mistake on your part,"
erwin45hacked (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10003916)

"This is a serious breach, redsn0w. As an escrow you should be on top of these things."
Magic8Ball (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10003954)

"Well seems redsn0w might get screwed on this one."
Blazedout419 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/blazed-134378)

"Failed verification. You're a scammer."
Tomatocage (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tomatocage-37522)

"Verification failed.
You are not redsn0w.
You are a scammer. "
Scamalert (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/scamalert-213255)

"I think it's an expensive mistake Redsn0w made. He should be more careful with people's accounts, but I'm sure he learned his lesson."
Sumerian (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005852)

"I would say that redsn0w has been added as someone who I would not deem trustworthy, nor would I trust to escrow a transaction."
charlieSheen (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10007169)