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Quote from: blockman on April 04, 2023, 05:52:13 PM

Quote from: South Park on April 04, 2023, 05:12:34 PM

When it comes to gambling referrals it is not about quantity but the quality of the people you can refer, as many times the only thing you need to do is to refer a single whale and that can be more than enough to obtain good profits, however, this is something difficult to do as whales prefer to play at the casinos in which they have already reached a high VIP status as this allows them to get huge bonuses compared to what they can get at other casinos.

Some referrers think quantity is the best, it's like they're not thinking long-term with their referrals and they're just like one-time referrals and that's all good and good.
I agree that it's about the quality and those that have been quality referrals will bring you more stable income by the way they're gambling. It's a niche that everyone should think of if they're for referrals and affiliate marketing.
The more quality they are, the more money you'll get as a commission from referring them and it's not going to be easy, there must be something you should do to take them and that's why too many helpful articles are there with attached referral links on some particular words.

When you think of quality as the basic driver in referral earning then you should also be prepared to follow up with your referees to check how active they are, a lot of referrals who think that their earning comes from the number of referrals they have is a pattern of thinking that have to reduce so many people from earning what the should have since they may have a high number of users registring with the referral code but are not actively playing.

This is why the casino thought it wise to have implemented this system that you earn from the activities of your referees, this has set the difference in the whole gaming industry and their affiliate marketing policy.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on April 05, 2023, 06:55:14 PM

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Quote from: efialtis on April 05, 2023, 03:21:14 AM

It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

but most casino sites mix it up, after all, the work is the same, namely promoting referral links, it's just that the difference is in bonuses, usually affiliate links have bigger bonuses while referral links get less bonuses, but the way both of them work is the same, usually on sites the exchange doesn't mix it up only some casinos do mix it up, same or not that's for sure how it works the same Wink

If you dont know on whats the difference about referral and affiliate.Here's some short read.
https://supermetrics.com/blog/referral-program-vs-affiliate-program

Overall it would really be just the same because not all context been state on the link given above where actually that precise yet we know that referrals arent those someone
who are close to you and also could be other person or random fellas which signed under you which do falls into the category of affiliate marketing but in
general or overall sense, it is really just the same.

But usually in a lot of casinos almost mix up affiliate and referral so that's what confuses many people so they don't know which affiliate program and referral program, to be honest I was never interested in any program from the casino because I was worried it would be a problem for my account, so I didn't would waste my time promoting my referral link, BTW thanks for the reading link Wink

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Quote from: Lanatsa on April 05, 2023, 06:55:14 PM

Quote from: piebeyb on April 05, 2023, 04:50:28 AM

Quote from: efialtis on April 05, 2023, 03:21:14 AM

It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

but most casino sites mix it up, after all, the work is the same, namely promoting referral links, it's just that the difference is in bonuses, usually affiliate links have bigger bonuses while referral links get less bonuses, but the way both of them work is the same, usually on sites the exchange doesn't mix it up only some casinos do mix it up, same or not that's for sure how it works the same Wink

If you dont know on whats the difference about referral and affiliate.Here's some short read.
https://supermetrics.com/blog/referral-program-vs-affiliate-program

Overall it would really be just the same because not all context been state on the link given above where actually that precise yet we know that referrals arent those someone
who are close to you and also could be other person or random fellas which signed under you which do falls into the category of affiliate marketing but in
general or overall sense, it is really just the same.

After reading the short text you shared in your latest post, it seems that the main differences between referral and affiliate programs are the following:

- The referrer is usually a client of the service, while the one who affiliates is not, but is related to target customers.
- Referrers earn special benefits (bonuses...) while the others do it for an income.
- Referee is usually close to the referrer, but there is no relationship in the affiliation.

Although these terms are usually mixed up, if we stick to these differences I would say that referral bonuses are a waste of time, with a few exceptions, because almost no one can build such a close relationship with so many people to make profit from such an effort.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on March 24, 2023, 07:04:42 PM

If roobet offers me a referral offer and I see it as a lucrative and way to be more active in the casino and involve friends to also play there.

Even though some members may time it addictive and reproductive, it can be a good way to generate extra income from your activities.

and added as you are also a proud advertiser of that said site so why deny the fact of generating income while adding some promotion?
that is a win win situation on your part as doing your job and gaining , while the site is also gaining popularity and generating income.
addiction is not your problem because even without you they will still go to gamble so it is their choice and decision to make.

Well, I think that people are free to do what they have to to have some extra money, and if it's something like recommending it, it's not a bad thing, I also think that all of us who live in the forum and on other platforms are also here because this Children like it, and there is nothing more rewarding than doing what you like and getting paid to do it, I think that's what it's all about, right? If you put love into a job, I don't think you'll be knocked down, I know there are many envious people, and unfair accusations can be made in the jobs, it's the common denominator, but when it's shown that this wasn't the case, that's where it's expected To be retract, then earning by recommendation is a very good thing, at least I see it that way.

I totally agree with you, because as far as I know, to get referral bonus, you need a group first and some followers there, who are deeply involved in getting referral bonus. My experience is that if one has few followers and the referral bonus is limited, it is natural for many to feel that the time spent on the referral bonus may seem largely futile.Because we often think of referral bonuses in a very simple way that often causes us to worry.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on March 16, 2023, 07:02:21 AM

Basically you're saying you cannot make affiliate money because you don't know anyone who would deposit using your code? You do realize that that has nothing to do with who you know or where you live right? To make money from affiliate marketing you have to be good at marketing. You have to share your code in ways noone else has thought of.

Look at btcgosu for example. The guy is marketing and made a website. He offers all who have codes under him special rakeback deal, has special contests for his referrals, and does ok for himself I assume.

You can also look at your casino streamers. There are a lot of them who make money from affiliate marketing as well. Getting users to sign up under their code and play.

People think that simply sharing their code on a facebook group is going to make them rich, but if you only know poor people what are the odds they have money to waste gambling? You have to be innovative and think.

what you are saying here is absolutely true, there are many people who want to make money from affiliate marketing but don't want to work hard for it, they don't want to rack their brains and think of the best and most appropriate way to get people to click on their affiliate links.

Successful affiliate content creators are those who rack their brains on how to get interested audiences to click on the affiliate links they provide, so the notion that referral bonuses are a waste of time is wrong.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on April 04, 2023, 09:44:02 PM

I think that people are free to do what they have to to have some extra money, and if it's something like recommending it, it's not a bad thing, I also think that all of us who live in the forum and on other platforms are also here because this Children like it, and there is nothing more rewarding than doing what you like and getting paid to do it, I think that's what it's all about, right? If you put love into a job, I don't think you'll be knocked down, I know there are many envious people, and unfair accusations can be made in the jobs, it's the common denominator, but when it's shown that this wasn't the case, that's where it's expected To be retract, then earning by recommendation is a very good thing, at least I see it that way.

Gambler or everyone is obviously free to do what they have or want to do, and when it comes to referring people to a website, especially if it's a casino platform or a platform that involves investing money, the best practice is to tell them everything and leave them with a warning that they should do this only at their own consent and you will not be responsible for anything that happens to their funds.

Doing that, the decision of whether they wish to join or not will be totally on themselves and you will not be guilty nor be called greedy for referring people to places where you earn money while they lose money ultimately.

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Quote from: wiss19 on April 05, 2023, 01:16:03 PM

Quote from: 1miau on April 03, 2023, 07:27:27 PM

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on April 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM

My advice? Stay away from any MLM or referral scheme. You'd only save your time, neurons and money.

I can really agree here.
MLM should be avoided right away as it's only a scheme to enrich founders (and sometimes early investors, which is never safe of course, should one be trying to be an early investor). It's just not profitable and finally, people will lose money.
It's best to avoid MLM and don't participate in it, see also my topic MLM - a dangerous marketing stratgy

Referral rewards are too tiny or if they are too good to be true, they are not true (because it's not a vital concept for an operator to spend endless money on referral rewards after all). See point 2 in my topic above (2. MLM causes significant costs)
Instead of reflink, MLM and co., there are so many better ways to earn honest money.

MLMs and referral programs are too very different things altogether. An MLM scheme requires you to get a certain amount of referrals which should invest for you to make money, it is a one-time payment until your referrals make referrals of their own, etc. But a referral program is different where it's an optional opportunity provided to you to earn a few extra bucks on top of what you do in a platform.

If you are a gambler, you can get a decent amount of money if you can get some active referrals who regularly deposit and play, giving you a percentage of what they are wagering or depositing. So, it's different from MLM schemes.

Agreed, there are also exceptions in some other respects. In the MLM system they will not get any earnings until their referrals are fulfilled. That is, if left or right is not equal, then referrer will not get any advantages. But gambling sites are completely different. The few referrals that are active here will get the bonus and a portion of the referrals will be paid as long as they continue to gamble. So it has no similarity with MLM system.

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Quote from: efialtis on April 05, 2023, 03:21:14 AM

It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

- Yes, you may be right in what you said, mate, because before I remembered that when you share your referral link, you will receive crypto immediately even if you have not deposited yet, and there is also the fact that you will only receive a commission when the person deposits under your link .

Even if you have already signed up, you will not be able to get commission rebates until there is no deposit made when you clicked on your referral link.

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Quote from: piebeyb on April 05, 2023, 04:50:28 AM

Quote from: efialtis on April 05, 2023, 03:21:14 AM

It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

but most casino sites mix it up, after all, the work is the same, namely promoting referral links, it's just that the difference is in bonuses, usually affiliate links have bigger bonuses while referral links get less bonuses, but the way both of them work is the same, usually on sites the exchange doesn't mix it up only some casinos do mix it up, same or not that's for sure how it works the same Wink

If you dont know on whats the difference about referral and affiliate.Here's some short read.
https://supermetrics.com/blog/referral-program-vs-affiliate-program

Overall it would really be just the same because not all context been state on the link given above where actually that precise yet we know that referrals arent those someone
who are close to you and also could be other person or random fellas which signed under you which do falls into the category of affiliate marketing but in
general or overall sense, it is really just the same.

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Quote from: 1miau on April 03, 2023, 07:27:27 PM

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on April 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM

My advice? Stay away from any MLM or referral scheme. You'd only save your time, neurons and money.

I can really agree here.
MLM should be avoided right away as it's only a scheme to enrich founders (and sometimes early investors, which is never safe of course, should one be trying to be an early investor). It's just not profitable and finally, people will lose money.
It's best to avoid MLM and don't participate in it, see also my topic MLM - a dangerous marketing stratgy

Referral rewards are too tiny or if they are too good to be true, they are not true (because it's not a vital concept for an operator to spend endless money on referral rewards after all). See point 2 in my topic above (2. MLM causes significant costs)
Instead of reflink, MLM and co., there are so many better ways to earn honest money.

MLMs and referral programs are too very different things altogether. An MLM scheme requires you to get a certain amount of referrals which should invest for you to make money, it is a one-time payment until your referrals make referrals of their own, etc. But a referral program is different where it's an optional opportunity provided to you to earn a few extra bucks on top of what you do in a platform.

If you are a gambler, you can get a decent amount of money if you can get some active referrals who regularly deposit and play, giving you a percentage of what they are wagering or depositing. So, it's different from MLM schemes.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on March 24, 2023, 07:04:42 PM

If roobet offers me a referral offer and I see it as a lucrative and way to be more active in the casino and involve friends to also play there.

Even though some members may time it addictive and reproductive, it can be a good way to generate extra income from your activities.

and added as you are also a proud advertiser of that said site so why deny the fact of generating income while adding some promotion?
that is a win win situation on your part as doing your job and gaining , while the site is also gaining popularity and generating income.
addiction is not your problem because even without you they will still go to gamble so it is their choice and decision to make.

Well, I think that people are free to do what they have to to have some extra money, and if it's something like recommending it, it's not a bad thing, I also think that all of us who live in the forum and on other platforms are also here because this Children like it, and there is nothing more rewarding than doing what you like and getting paid to do it, I think that's what it's all about, right? If you put love into a job, I don't think you'll be knocked down, I know there are many envious people, and unfair accusations can be made in the jobs, it's the common denominator, but when it's shown that this wasn't the case, that's where it's expected To be retract, then earning by recommendation is a very good thing, at least I see it that way.

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Quote from: efialtis on April 05, 2023, 03:21:14 AM

It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

but most casino sites mix it up, after all, the work is the same, namely promoting referral links, it's just that the difference is in bonuses, usually affiliate links have bigger bonuses while referral links get less bonuses, but the way both of them work is the same, usually on sites the exchange doesn't mix it up only some casinos do mix it up, same or not that's for sure how it works the same Wink

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It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it again - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink

Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges?

Money can be made... Wink

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Quote from: btc78 on March 24, 2023, 09:01:33 PM

Quote from: Ojima-ojo on March 24, 2023, 07:04:42 PM

If roobet offers me a referral offer and I see it as a lucrative and way to be more active in the casino and involve friends to also play there.

Even though some members may time it addictive and reproductive, it can be a good way to generate extra income from your activities.

and added as you are also a proud advertiser of that said site so why deny the fact of generating income while adding some promotion?
that is a win win situation on your part as doing your job and gaining , while the site is also gaining popularity and generating income.
addiction is not your problem because even without you they will still go to gamble so it is their choice and decision to make.

Well, I think that people are free to do what they have to to have some extra money, and if it's something like recommending it, it's not a bad thing, I also think that all of us who live in the forum and on other platforms are also here because this Children like it, and there is nothing more rewarding than doing what you like and getting paid to do it, I think that's what it's all about, right? If you put love into a job, I don't think you'll be knocked down, I know there are many envious people, and unfair accusations can be made in the jobs, it's the common denominator, but when it's shown that this wasn't the case, that's where it's expected To be retract, then earning by recommendation is a very good thing, at least I see it that way.

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Quote from: South Park on April 04, 2023, 05:12:34 PM

When it comes to gambling referrals it is not about quantity but the quality of the people you can refer, as many times the only thing you need to do is to refer a single whale and that can be more than enough to obtain good profits, however this is something difficult to do as whales prefer to play at the casinos in which they have already reached a high VIP status as this allows them to get huge bonuses compared to what they can get at other casinos.

There are referrers that think quantity is the best, it's like they're not thinking long term with their referrals and they're just like one-time referrals and that's all good and good.
I agree that it's about the quality and those that have been quality referrals will bring you more stable income by the way they're gambling. It's a niche that everyone should think of if they're for referrals and affiliate marketing.
The more quality they are, the more money you'll get as a commission from referring them and it's not going to be easy, there must be something you should do to take them and that's why too many helpful articles are there with attached referral links on some particular words.

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Quote from: South Park on April 04, 2023, 05:12:34 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on April 04, 2023, 10:15:51 AM

This is not completely correct, you do not need hundreds of referrals to make it worth as it is not about how many referrals you have but it is more about how much is wagered by your referrals.
It will be useless to have hundreds or thousands of referrals but 99% of them is inactive like what you are experiencing.
I'm not surprising if you earn small on freebitcoin while you have hundred of referrals since most people joined freebitcoin for free satoshi only.
Something different may happen if you have hundreds of referral in gambling site because most of them must be people who at least want to gamble.

When it comes to gambling referrals it is not about quantity but the quality of the people you can refer, as many times the only thing you need to do is to refer a single whale and that can be more than enough to obtain good profits, however this is something difficult to do as whales prefer to play at the casinos in which they have already reached a high VIP status as this allows them to get huge bonuses compared to what they can get at other casinos.

I usually don't take part in referral events, since the actual bonus I get from gambling is a good time. Watching any match is really interesting when you bet on it Cheesy

So, referral is actually, IMHO, a waste of time... Maybe it's useful for people trying to earn a thing by having many accounts in different casinos, but for fun it's not that interesting...

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 04, 2023, 10:15:51 AM

This is not completely correct, you do not need hundreds of referrals to make it worth as it is not about how many referrals you have but it is more about how much is wagered by your referrals.
It will be useless to have hundreds or thousands of referrals but 99% of them is inactive like what you are experiencing.
I'm not surprising if you earn small on freebitcoin while you have hundred of referrals since most people joined freebitcoin for free satoshi only.
Something different may happen if you have hundreds of referral in gambling site because most of them must be people who at least want to gamble.

When it comes to gambling referrals it is not about quantity but the quality of the people you can refer, as many times the only thing you need to do is to refer a single whale and that can be more than enough to obtain good profits, however this is something difficult to do as whales prefer to play at the casinos in which they have already reached a high VIP status as this allows them to get huge bonuses compared to what they can get at other casinos.

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Quote from: mindrust on April 02, 2023, 01:43:59 PM

Quote from: Obari on March 16, 2023, 05:05:57 AM

In my opinion, I think referral bonuses are typically waste of one's time because of its processes that seems so impossible to claim and recently I came across a thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-paying-online-casinos-for-refer-5437603 seeking for Casinos with paid referral bonuses and I tool out time to read most of the responses there and they all seem impossible to claim referral bonuses.
I wish to know if anyone has successfully claimed referral bonuses and how easy was the process and what Casino did you claim those bonuses

You'll need to have hundreds of referrals to make it worthwhile. I have more than a hundred refs on my freebitco.in account and only 1 of them is still active but I am lucky because he is constantly making bets, selling FUN tokens etc and generating me some nice sats every week. I agree with you in general though. Somehow I manage to collect these refs in the past but I probably wouldn't do it today because it is not worth my effort. Making money this way is not very time efficient.

This is not completely correct, you do not need hundreds of referrals to make it worth as it is not about how many referrals you have but it is more about how much is wagered by your referrals.
It will be useless to have hundreds or thousands of referrals but 99% of them is inactive like what you are experiencing.
I'm not surprising if you earn small on freebitcoin while you have hundred of referrals since most people joined freebitcoin for free satoshi only.
Something different may happen if you have hundreds of referral in gambling site because most of them must be people who at least want to gamble.

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 03, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

Quote from: MaterialMouse69 on April 03, 2023, 05:28:02 AM

It's really waste if you're doing referral, I experienced it because I try some gambling site and they have referral(bonus coin) and it's not worth it. For example, you need to invite like 50 people to get $15 worth of coin. See? Everything now is not free so work hard for yourself and don't waste your life doing referral or some things just to get freebie with no value.

It is free as long as you dont have to spend a single cent, if you need to invite some people to get the bonus but you say it is not free then how referral bonus should work? I'm not sure which casino that give you bonus coin for referring people, can you mention the casino here? I have never heard any casino give us bonus just by inviting people only and the bonus has no value at all. Even if it is true, means that it is your own mistake to invite people for nothing. In short, you decided to participate in the worst referral program while there are some other better program that gives you good chance to earn decent amount of money if you can refer active players/whales.

If you do love inviting then getting those satoshis or bonuses would really be just a freebie but just like the rest been saying that it isnt something that you would really be that be mindful
if we do speak about the amounts been given. You are really that right that you should really be not that minding yourself on inviting just because you are aiming for some rewards.
Its not really that worth but there are people who do love on inviting just because they do really love on inviting someone despite of the amount that it gives.

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Quote from: 1miau on April 03, 2023, 07:27:27 PM

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on April 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM

My advice? Stay away from any MLM or referral scheme. You'd only save your time, neurons and money.

I can really agree here.
MLM should be avoided right away as it's only a scheme to enrich founders (and sometimes early investors, which is never safe of course, should one be trying to be an early investor). It's just not profitable and finally, people will lose money.
It's best to avoid MLM and don't participate in it, see also my topic MLM - a dangerous marketing stratgy

Referral rewards are too tiny or if they are too good to be true, they are not true (because it's not a vital concept for an operator to spend endless money on referral rewards after all). See point 2 in my topic above (2. MLM causes significant costs)
Instead of reflink, MLM and co., there are so many better ways to earn honest money.

MLM is like a ponzi scheme. only those at the top are the ones earning decent money. as you go down the line, you are just like a pawn waiting for crumbs. but it is different from referral bonuses in casinos. some gamblers with good referrals (esp. high rollers) can really get a good passive income out of it.
but as just like any other bonuses inside the casino, you should not expect too much from it. especially if you know, you really don't have significant number of referrals.

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