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Quote from: reg on January 27, 2013, 04:53:16 AM

slightly lost the plot!!!

can anyone clarify my position as a previous shareholder of companies listed on glbse?

I know nefario released shareholder names to "companies" on the 12th december 2012. Since then, three I held shares with have contacted me and upheld their contracts/ dividends but five have not?.

Do I just wait and hope they will come forward? or do I name them and hope shame them into a reaction of sorts (even an acknowledgement would help)?

Or do I ask others in the same situation to band together to find a solution?

Or is there already a place this is happening?

How do the documents here help shareholders (of companies not contacting their shareholders?)exactly and will a resolution of that data resolve shareholders concerns? Any clarification would be helpful. reg.

ok so I posted the question to the thread originator but got no reply- so re-posting as I am unwilling to just let this and my btc's go. reg

reg

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slightly lost the plot!!!

can anyone clarify my position as a previous shareholder of companies listed on glbse?

I know nefario released shareholder names to "companies" on the 12th december 2012. Since then, three I held shares with have contacted me and upheld their contracts/ dividends but five have not?.

Do I just wait and hope they will come forward? or do I name them and hope shame them into a reaction of sorts (even an acknowledgement would help)?

Or do I ask others in the same situation to band together to find a solution?

Or is there already a place this is happening?

How do the documents here help shareholders (of companies not contacting their shareholders?)exactly and will a resolution of that data resolve shareholders concerns? Any clarification would be helpful. reg.

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Quote from: ErebusBat on January 25, 2013, 05:30:06 PM

My guess is that we will never see these, or they would have been released by now.

Unless, of course, the documents were also sent to another party. I'm just saying.

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My guess is that we will never see these, or they would have been released by now.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 03:38:46 PM

False accusations, misinterpretations of intention, speculations regarding liability, etc.

Those are all possibilities you were aware of when you started this thread.

My concern is that many Bitcoin enterprises are already ridiculously opaque. I believe that when they fail, the identities and the actions of those involved with the business should no longer be protected - they should be subject to public scrutiny just as they are in the real world.

Without such scrutiny, people have no idea whether the same people who were associated with one failed enterprise are operating a new one and they have little information on which to judge whether the failure was due to incompetence, malice, or factors which were truly beyond the control of the operators.

I don't believe it is reasonable to expect the community to accept at face value the unexamined claims by service operators of why their business failed.

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Quote from: Axios on January 25, 2013, 01:06:08 PM

Of course one would have to ask, what problems these documents could cause to theymos? But I respect theymos too much to care

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False accusations, misinterpretations of intention, speculations regarding liability, etc.

Just read again the responses trying to discredit me in this thread and you will have a good idea of what could happen not only against Theymos, but against all other undisclosed shareholders. It is imperative to me not only look after the wishes of the forum users, but also after the welfare of the undisclosed GLBSE shareholders.

So at this point is quite unlikely I will disclose the documents.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 10:01:13 AM

One GLBSE shareholder sent me a personal message with good arguments to not release the documents. His request is very convincing. Many users participating in this thread have already indicated they are not qualified to examine the documents. So I am very inclined to not release the documents to protect the privacy of the GLBSE shareholders. Furthermore, I have a great deal of respect for Theymos because he never acted with malice when dealing with forum discussions where I was involved. So I do not want cause more unnecessary issues for him with the release of the documents.

Of course one would have to ask, what problems these documents could cause to theymos? But I respect theymos too much to care

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I can confirm that augustocroppo has the files that he listed, and at least some parts of these files seem genuine.

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One GLBSE shareholder sent me a personal message with good arguments to not release the documents. His request is very convincing. Many users participating in this thread have already indicated they are not qualified to examine the documents. So I am very inclined to not release the documents to protect the privacy of the GLBSE shareholders. Furthermore, I have a great deal of respect for Theymos because he never acted with malice when dealing with forum discussions where I was involved. So I do not want cause more unnecessary issues for him with the release of the documents.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 08:01:05 AM

I merely played with Greyhawk sarcasm.

Yeah, right...

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 07:34:31 AM

Wait... I thought I was a liar? A clown? A whore looking for attention? Do you believe in what I say now?

I actually didn't think that you were a liar, a clown, or an attention whore but you convinced me otherwise. Please keep your documents.

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Inb4 kangaroo court.

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Quote from: purplesquid on January 25, 2013, 07:53:50 AM

Quote from: augustocroppo on January 20, 2013, 09:46:51 PM

The point is to let the users of this forum decide if they are really interested to look into the documents.

And with the poll showing >80% thinking you should release, you don't. Congrats man, great work here...

At no moment I declared the poll would be the only reference to determine the release the documents.

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Quote from: Blazr on January 25, 2013, 07:46:32 AM

Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 07:28:42 AM

Thank to you, now I have evidence that you are the anonymous user or that you also received the same documents.

LOL. If you had actually opened the 7z file (which is what any good "private investigator" would've done, or heck just even look at the file size) you would realize that is not the case.

If they do happen to be the same as the documents you have, I can understand why you didn't publish them.

Well. I did it. Every file contains the same phrase, "Augustocroppo is an attention whore".

I even notice that greyhawk compacted archive have 17.01 KB, which is a different size from the compacted archive I have.

I merely played with Greyhawk sarcasm.

You and other users are proving that you select what is true or not in accordance with your bias.

That is why I decided to gauge the responses from the forum users, to know who could be trusted or not with the documents.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 20, 2013, 09:46:51 PM

The point is to let the users of this forum decide if they are really interested to look into the documents.

And with the poll showing >80% thinking you should release, you don't. Congrats man, great work here...

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 07:28:42 AM

Thank to you, now I have evidence that you are the anonymous user or that you also received the same documents.

LOL. If you had actually opened the 7z file (which is what any good "private investigator" would've done, or heck just even look at the file size) you would realize that is not the case.

If they do happen to be the same as the documents you have, I can understand why you didn't publish them.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on January 25, 2013, 07:34:31 AM

It is very interesting to gauge user responses and notice the selective reasoning.

Indeed, my friend. Indeed.

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Quote from: Bitinvestor on January 25, 2013, 07:29:46 AM

Haha, and you're a private investigator? LOL

Wait... I thought I was a liar? A clown? A whore looking for attention? Do you believe in what I say now?

It is very interesting to gauge user responses and notice the selective reasoning.

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