Topic: Religion in our society - page 8. (Read 2982 times)

Religion teaches us about how to live a good life and end it with good deeds, but criminal activity didn't begin with us and it won't end with us because even God, who is our creature, knows that we humans will never be satisfied with what we have, which is why he created heaven and hell fire before our existence. If you look at the world today, it has completely changed because primarily those to whom God has given power, such as some imams and pastors are the ones that entice young people to engage in illegal activities, such as using yahoo and other scams, the most,due to lack of funds.

But what does the Christian religion really show... that most other religions don't. It shows the personal - between you and God - everlasting life Jesus offers... and why and how it works.

Of course, the whole Bible revolves around doing and being good and righteous. The examples in the Old Testament of the Bible show what happens to people who are not good and right as they live before God, and people who are.

One big focus sould be this. In Matthew in the New Testament, Jesus says, "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." When it doesn't work for people who ask, they say that it was simply not God's will. But if it wasn't God's will, then how could Jesus say it in the first place?

The focus is faith in God. Time to focus on what faith in God really is. In a different area of the NT, Jesus shows what faith can be, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

It's natural for humans to act differently from what is expected of people who are under the umbrella of Christianity. True religion as @BADecker observed is supposed to be practiced without eye service or salutation.
But what goes on these days is hypocrisy and lip service but crime rates is on the high.

 Where I come from, churches are scattered every where but yet still there's corruption, crime and chaos around. While there are the good ones, there's still the bad ones who spoil the reputation of the good.

Not all religions teach love and peace. Even those religions that in their inception called for peaceful coexistence between people, it turned out later that this was to win popular sympathy and to attract more followers. Then the laws of those religions are transformed into laws of life that impose the domination of one class or group of society over another.

Almost this happened with the most prevalent religions today on the surface of the earth, including Islam and Christianity, which was an element that helped to expand the empire in their time.

Indeed, religion always teaches about goodness. But human nature is different. There are people who have good personalities, there are also people who have bad personalities.

In essence, in this world can not be separated from the name of the nature of envy, jealousy, as well as other bad traits. Therefore, religion teaches us to always obey in a good way, and not easily get carried away by emotions.

There are some people who are obedient to their religion, some are not.

Real Christianity is a combination of two things:
1. to be sorry for making mistakes, doing wrong... based on the Ten Commandments and the law of love for God and for other people;
2. Accepting the forgiveness that Jesus offers, that He gained for all people through His suffering and death on the cross.

As you said, the Bible can be understood in many different ways. But this doesn't have anything to do with what the Bible says. The Bible interprets itself. It's people who don't want to look at the whole thing, and understand it all, that come up with really wrong understandings of the Bible. People who study the Bible, and who listen to sound teachings from people who studied it more, are people who don't go off with crazy misunderstandings of it.

However, to be fair, the Revelation says in chapter 19 that nobody will understand the Bible completely. If you go and read chapter 19, you won't find anything that says it the way I just did. That's because people don't take the time to study the Bible to see how chapter 19 says what I said it says.

So, yes. People can and do many things that they shouldn't do, including placing wrong interpretations on the Bible.

But what is the real chiristianity? It has been changing through years. Moreover, the Bible can be understood in many different ways

I believe you (the OP) is from a religion group. And if you are from a religion group how do you feel about this thread and your character toward other people in the society? Remember the theories of English philosophers of John Locke. Thomas Hobbes, and also French philosopher of Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

John Locke said, in the state of nature human beings need not to hurt another person but it is not possible in the society where different characters live together. https://edubirdie.com/examples/john-lockes-concept-of-human-nature/

Thomas Hobbes said, in the state of nature human beings were very wicked they are on war always. https://www.britannica.com/topic/state-of-nature-political-theory

Jean-Jacques Rousseau said, in the state of nature human beings were very good and and everybody was perfect but the society they found themselves corrupt them. https://1000wordphilosophy.com/2021/09/27/rousseau-on-human-nature/

From the above theorist you can discovered that human being character is not controlled by religion but by the society itself and religion is trying it best to refined the behaviour of the individual. Religion can only tell you what is good and bad and it is the individual to decide whether to choose the good or the bad.

Some religions, yes... but others no.

When a person says he is a Christian and that is his religion, if he doesn't follow it, is it really his religion? Or is he a liar?

Check out the New Testament, the whole basis for Christianity. There is no call for violence other than self defense a little. Just the opposite. There are only calls for religious, Christian peace in the NT. The problem is people.

And if you want to say that Islam is the religion of peace, check all the places the Quran says to do violence: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10381547.

Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

The Christian religion, the Bible religion, has 3 major points throughout:
1. The way to eternal life through Jesus (Messiah) salvation;
2. To love God above all things, and your neighbor as yourself;
3. Bible examples of the things that happen when love is or isn't followed.

This is for everybody, because:
1. All people want salvation even though many don't realize ti;
2. There is nothing more fundamental than love for God who made us and who maintains us, and love for our neighbor (all other people) so that we live in peace in this life.

The Bible examples express and show what happens when people don't follow this. Since people won't follow it completely, God has in mercy granted eternal life to people who try. But it is pretty easy. Salvation comes to those who simply believe in Jesus salvation. And we naturally know what we need in life, so we know what everybody else needs, and can live in peace and harmony because of our knowledge.

Simple as that, even if it is not so simple to put it into practice at times.

If they don't follow their evil thoughts, it could happen and when people don't desire ranks and fame, it could happen but people nowadays have their own wants and mostly they want what people have and that's the start of the problem. Jealousy and hate trigger the unstoppable problem because it creates anger, and greed, and people who have this kind of trait often hurt their relatives or friend if they cannot control it which is kinda hard if they don't have any spiritual laws to follow. Muslim have their own answers to these problems and if you read their solutions regarding it, you will be mesmerized by the answer, just read it without any bias or hate just to have an idea why people think a certain religion will have the answer to today's world problem.

I recommend this video to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX2sT5-HQBQ&ab_channel=cutesunshine

The religion you are emphasising is only meant for Christians and the ocean Muslims that is when you come into your religion not about culture. What from things that I notice even normal cultured environment do also love one another they give things two people without asking for return and I know that's such character is a character of a good religion but not everybody that follow such kind of behaviour. So I'm of this solution that stipulate that givers never lack and it's the religion i think your point deriving at

Right and true religion is this >>> to help everybody who has a real need, usually the poor, children, the weak and the sick, etc. And to do it for little or no pay.

And then to come to faith in the fact that when you die, it's really that Jesus is taking you out of this life to a new life in a new universe that has no problems, to live in joy for ever and ever.

Maybe I think you did not understand what what they're trying to expanciate with religion and and society because when you are asked to define what is religion and he also asked to define society. You will not see that society is fog different from religion but the boat work in accordance and would have a different meaning without religion society cannot function and with that society region cannot function so all this is totally the character of human behaviour as a woman adoption and the adaptation for one environment or one particularly ethnicity

This is one of the definitions of religion. Maybe it's basically a linguistic definition.
Psychology defines it in one way and sociology defines it in another. You will find different definitions of it in almost all dictionaries.
Generally, when you say “religion” to any person in any society of any culture, he will understand that it is the means of God’s communication with his human creatures through which he expresses himself and his thoughts. Of course, everyone believes that he has the correct religion, which confirms the naivety of the idea, in my opinion.

Religion in the dictionay:
Look at any religion. It has its dogmas, its rules, its instructions, and all kinds of parts to it. Everybody who reads or hears about the parts, thinks different thoughts than everybody else who reads and hears the same thing. The thinking might not be greatly different. But it is different, because no two people think exactly the same thing the same way.

This means that everybody who says that he is a Catholic is different in his religion than everybody else who says the same. All formally religious people are at least mistaken about what they believe. But if they insist that they are the same religion with everybody else of that religion, then they are liars.

This means that the "clear definition of religion that all schools agree on" is not so clear after all. And the dictionary shows this about it.

So, since everybody is a liar with regard to everybody else pertaining to the religions of their individual lives, we can go to science fact (not theory) that shows the odds of there not being a Creator as entirely wrong. The complexity of things shows that this universe couldn't have come about as it is without an extremely powerful, outside Intelligence having brought it into being. Such a powerful Intelligence matches our definition of the word "God" in all the ways each of us might individually think of the words within the definition.

I don't understand why you insist on calling this religion. Belief in universal values is called belief in universal values and not in a particular religion. Human beliefs are not limited to religion, there are sects that believe in other things.
There is a clear definition of religion that all schools agree on. I'm not playing with concepts here.
I hope I understood your words correctly.

 Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

Since religions are based on complete acceptance of metaphysical ideas, their continuity is hostage to one of two things, either the establishment of a religious dictatorship, as happens with political Islam in our time, or the blessing of a military dictatorship. This is, of course, because the civil state denies it all the ways that religion can exploit to impose its control.
This can be summarized as violence is a system of life for religion to continue and this explains its continuity for many centuries.