Topic: Religion is a plague - page 5. (Read 11811 times)

Um, is Technology to Science as Macroevolution to Microevolution? What's the difference?

ID is a biological hypothesis. Obviously it is wrong, but science grows making errors, not facts. Facts are the fruits of that effort. It's a miracle religion is using scientific method to get the truth rather than just the Biblia.

I actually agree with you. ID is a philosophy. Same as evolution.

So, you say evolution is made up and is not fact, and then point out that you don't even understand what it is or how it works? Oooookay then.

ID has nothing to do with science. period.

Nothing unseen can be proven absolutely. You can only remove doubt. That IS how science works. I can't prove to you that God exists any more than you can prove that gravity is real. We can show proofs, and remove doubt, but absolutes are impossible.

Unicorns are a fantasy for children, didn't you know? The concept of an infinite God is an idea that is difficult even for adults to fully comprehend. I am having trouble convincing you, see? ;^)


The church is not science class, it a place that worships God. Unlike the laboratory where they worship evolu......wait...


Circular Reasoning. "Genome comes from evolution, which is proved by the genome."


You're right! My statement is just a statement.


I don't see evolution, which is supposed to make entirely new organisms. I do see genetic variance, and adaptation.


What was the environmental condition that caused life, a shortage of humans?  
How does evolution adapt? Magic? Where is evolution? What is the source? If it is non-physical, how does it impact physical matter?

It is curious that some non-believers think that intelligent design is a greater threat to science than football, fashion, social presure, justin bieber, rock, drugs ... those things are worse than intelligent design, because they kill interest in science and other important things (like political issues that allow intelligent design). Intelligent design may be wrong, but at least not discourage science completely, as the above factors, which are not criticized by atheists for some curious reason. That is atheist hypocrisy. They only use science to defend their opinions instead of promoting science really.

More evidence? Japan younth is interested in technology, but not in science. However, in practice, Japaese are atheists.

ugh. dont lump us all in with those idiots.

"Intelligent design" makes America an amusing country.

I especially love how a banana is intelligently designed for our hands, with the 5 ridges, easy color coding for ripeness (green -> yellow), and a pull-top for peeling. Yay god!

I think platypus is cute.

But more to the point: you ignored the post and chose to twist the meaning.

That is essentially an acknowledgement that you can't refute the foresight and intelligence in the design of a Platypus. I'm glad you agree. Makes life easier. Its nice that we can get along.

for some reason, idiots think they are not.

In fact, median intelligence In IQ grows 2 points every decade. But some stupid people think they are better than others because of intelligenece. Those are idiots.

God is not a scientific theory; therefore, that idea is not based on scientific proof.

Prove the existence of a god scientifically and not with empty phrases. I could use the "proof is all around you" phrase exactly for my horny green unicorns (they are noble creatures!). That's not how scientific evidence is made.

"unscientific, magical ether"....lol :D
Evolution theory is as the name suggest a theory and is taught as such(in opposite to the church that teaches god as fact and not as theory) Also it has nothing to do with thread title and is offtopic. The evolutionary tree is empirical proven by analyzing genomes of the species. A theory, in a scientific matter, doesn't mean claim or "magic" how you called it... it means substantiated and documented observations with scientific methods, which in this case is done by biological scientist all around the world. Your statement "The proof is all around you" is none of that. You also can see evolution on the human being during the last centuries...we lost and still loose hair, we got and get taller, our pinky got and gets smaller. Go back even more in time and find out that by now we nearly lost the cecum because we heat our meals.

Ah, so it's ok to say god exists without any evidence but if I say there are unicorns without any evidence it's a totally different thing just because i replaced the word god with something else? I say god is a fairy tale that was invented and used by humans to explain things that else couldn't be explained by the time. And evolution is not magic, it's adapting to to environmental conditions.


^^^^^^^^this!....also they look ridiculous..... and boobs should be bigger by default!

Did anyone watch "Idiocracy"?

Of course God have been ever God, but it depends on our definition to accept him as God or not.

In the same way, a mountain will be a mountain wathever we have a word for it or not.

God bless us brother!

Exactly. You'd think THE LORD GOD wouldn't make that sort of mistake, if he was in the design chair...

The biggest failure of evolution is having our food hole and breathing holes share the same tube. Anyone that's inhaled soda after reading some of the idiotic statist arguments on these forums probably knows what I mean.

I think the second biggest failure is having testicles dangling unprotected. It could have at least built a cage around them like my lungs have.

Congratulations, you are officially the first person EVER to use the words 'Platypus' and 'elegant' in the same sentence.

That statement is easily disproved.

Platypus is purposefully and elegantly designed for life in the water:
 - webbed feet
 - nostrils on top of its beak to breathe in the water
 - can close its ears, eyes and nose when diving
 - its beak has electroreceptors to detect tiny electrical currents generated by its prey
 - it has cheek pouches to store caught prey so it doesn't have to eat in the water

One need only look at the duck-billed platypus and see that Evolution has neither foresight, nor a design aesthetic. It uses what works, no more, no less.

Of course it's common sense. I would not expect God's morality to be without sense, or without logic. SO where does morality come from then, if it makes sense? If morality makes, sense, then it must have an opposite: immorality, or the absence of sensibility. Sounds almost like a physical law to me.


That's a very debatable suggestion. There are many examples in the world that prove that not all cultures naturally take on the same morals. In fact, cultures have been shown to abandon morality altogether many times though-out history. Morals are NOT a given, they come from a source OTHER than humanity.


The proof is all around you, but scientists today ascribe it to evolution, an unscientific, magical ether with intelligent powers of foresight and design.

Don't lecture to Christians about fairy-tale unicorns and leprechauns and then tell us that DNA formed by itself through the magic of evolution.

Most moral laws in religions such as "You shall not murder." or "You shall not steal." are just common sense. Those moral laws are just human and independent from any religious beliefs, you can find the same moral laws (or norms and values) in every culture on this planet. The belief in god/allah/shiva/FSM/whatever is what makes the difference in religion. The church claims the existence of an all-knowing and almighty creature or "it" called god without providing any proof for this claim and teaches it as fact, not as theory. With that logic i could also say "In the rainforest, there exist green unicorns that have consensual sexual intercourse in missionary position with Leprechauns until they are filled up and explode. It's a fact that doesn't need any proof.". If you claim the existence of something, you have to provide evidence. Moral laws have nothing to do with that.