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Topic: Remove red trust, it is nothing but noise. Getting sickening to watch. (Read 1118 times)

newbie
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Stay quite, that's my advise. If I will need a dentist service I will contact u. U might give me an address of a good dentist.

My advice would be to avoid following Quickseller into his doxing rabbit holes. He makes most of that shit up.

Who the f. is Quickseller? I am not interested. I even don't know his real name. (I don't need it) I already said that I wan't dox anyone and I wan't start writing about silk road ad who set it up. There were some Russian dudes involved, but they are free now. WHY? If u have 
enough money there is no problem... But not in US or EU. Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life in prison without parole for running the Silk Road. Will I be banned if I will publish real names + facts including transactions + money laundering facts and so on...? The answer is yes. So u college buddies just stay quite and I will b 2. I do not want 2 b involved in this shit and nobody wants to join Ross Ulbricht in his "Hotel" I am a believer of god and I hate bad ppl. Yea.. and suchmoon.. Take care about your family and stop be addicted to this forum that let many ppl homeless. (A lot of them committed a suicide.. God bless us all. 
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Stay quite, that's my advise. If I will need a dentist service I will contact u. U might give me an address of a good dentist.

My advice would be to avoid following Quickseller into his doxing rabbit holes. He makes most of that shit up.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 1
I don't think this person is mooseprong..

Yeah don't flatter yourself. I takes years of hard work to earn multiple trollpuppeting enemies. This is likely your best buddy mosspringles, although I'm not sure why he's so blatantly exposing his account-selling alt.

Stay quite, that's my advise. If I will need a dentist service I will contact u. U might give me an address of a good dentist.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
I don't think this person is mooseprong..

Yeah don't flatter yourself. I takes years of hard work to earn multiple trollpuppeting enemies. This is likely your best buddy mosspringles, although I'm not sure why he's so blatantly exposing his account-selling alt.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 1
I'm not JB and I don't think I have done any twittering about UNB ever.. That I can recall.. I have done very little twittering at all ever..
I have no guilt/regret about anything UNB related other than not having more balls trading it than I did..

U were involved in that scam. Please don't call it a "failed project" That is an excuse of many scammers and we heard that shit a lot. And I don't give a shit about your trust rating, trading or anything else, I am talking about facts.

I am not JB

I know who u r.

Doxing me publicly would not impress me with your skills at all.. It would just be a dick move.. A few users here have/had my complete dox that I have bought things from.. I'm not all anonymous..
And what are you gonna do? Post shit on other sites I use or something and make me look like an Alfa for having haters chasing me across the internet?
If you've looked me up you know you aren't coming to my house..

I already announced that I wan't dox anyone here or on another website, even for money. That's out of my morality and very dangerous.

I'm not afraid of some russians..
The russians probably have me on a list for talking shit about russia.. Fine..
Can you get me my whole russian record? That would be interesting to see.. Maybe they have my whole US record and everything? Maybe even my browsing history? Did you see how good my credit score is?
Fuck em.. I hope they enjoy themselves reading about me.

Your bank credit score is good. But the amounts are not too impressive. But do not let your bank (s) know that u r dealing with crypto, coz in that case all your credit history will be blacklisted and u'll receive zero credit from them in the future. Eddie, I wish you a good health and everything good to you and your family. Just stop defending scammers and be rude to forum members. Also stop to be narcissistic "A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette, That's my advise. And stop talking bad things about Russians and especially about Russian criminals that are searching for the lost money. They are not good guys. Even I am afraid of such ppl. God bless u. Excuse for my bad English.

@mprep is the best moderator here. He will never delete your post without explanation why he is doing so. This forum must be  proud of such people.


Nobody will escape God’s judgment (That's about my previous post regarding bitconnetc and other scams. Unfortunately I did not had a power to stop them.)
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
Guess I messed this for a little bit..

A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette,

This is pretty funny... You never had a single positive review in your trust list since 2017. You tried to get one by taking a loan from DarkStar_ in 2016 (around $4-10) to get a positive review, but it did't work coz lenders are giving neutral trust for loans. After that, you sold something  (there is no reference) to RealHummer and received positive review for god knows what. Finally U used OG escrow for selling for buying some cheap staff to yourself or for your alt account and he granted you with a positive review.(there is no reference) Also you were involved in some scams together with a scam master Jim Basko (All his social accounts are abandoned)  Of course you called  Unbreakablecoin a failed project (You was a head of their twitter campaign and a team member) Do you know how much money so called failed projects stole from gullible investors? Hundreds of millions. I do not know why suchmoon is supporting you in any case. My problem is that I know names. Almost all of them and yours too. I will not publish them because I don't want to dox anyone.

What a load of horse shit.. Your account research on me sucks.. I shouldn't even respond to line items..

My deal with OG was for this.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-2013-brass-5-casascius-funded-1578532 in 2016
spectre1989   2016-08-19   Reference   I bought a loaded Casascius physical coin from him and got it across an ocean just fine.. Thank you..
Used OG as escrow then and he didn't give me any rating for it at all for almost 2 years!! And then he randomly left one.. Maybe he saw me around enough by then or something..
Your timeline is off..

Check the ref for RealHummer in my sent rating .... .. . https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/auction-25-bitpiece-loaded-physical-coin-2135991 You didn't read any of those?
He bought a coin worth around $2k at the time and chose not to use escrow.. Are you calling him my alt? I think you would make yourself look foolish claiming that..

Check the ref for the darkstar deal in my sent rating  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-001-btc-please-1579735
Read the thread, it's good stuff Wink I had all my BTC in polo lending and just bought that Cas (was illiquid) but wanted to make some trades so took a small loan.. Killed it on UNB of all things, lol.. IIRC I about tripled that loan and paid it back early..
I didn't even ask Darkstar, I asked anyone and DS was the fastest.. Maybe he is my alt too?

I'm not JB and I don't think I have done any twittering about UNB ever.. That I can recall.. I have done very little twittering at all ever..
I have no guilt/regret about anything UNB related other than not having more balls trading it than I did..

Doxing me publicly would not impress me with your skills at all.. It would just be a dick move.. A few users here have/had my complete dox that I have bought things from.. I'm not all anonymous..
And what are you gonna do? Post shit on other sites I use or something and make me look like an Alfa for having haters chasing me across the internet?
If you've looked me up you know you aren't coming to my house..

A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette,

 ...probably does have the dox on mosprognoz though
thankfully he won't make it public
says edited by a mod so who I knows what it said originally

Still not one solid argument for retaining red tags and still no rebuttal of the negative impact and danger subjective tagging brings to the community.  That's agreed then.

I received a message from a mod saying he edited my post because I mentioned the real name of suchmoon. Yes I know the real names of   many users. I lived in Russia and in Moscow if you know the right person in the federal security Service (FSB) you can get any name or address of anyone just for some money. But as I understand mentioning the real names is restricted on this "decentralized and free speech" forum. My friend once tried to mention theymos real name and was banned immediately. Crypto and especially this forum became the heaven for scammers. "Scams are non moderated" https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657 that is written in rules. Great. Don't u think that it looks like  "concealing a crime?" or something? Everyone sober or not window licker (mentally sick) knew that bitconnect was a ponzi, but nobody banned the thread due to "Scams are non moderated" end some greedy idiots lost millions of dollars. Bitconnect was just a small part of uncountable scams that forced some gullible investors loosing their hard earned money. I heard that a lot of ppl committed suicides. lost their homes and borrowed money. Now look into your soul and think about that ppl. It was so easy to ban all scammers and lock their threads. Or maybe peoples lives or leaving them homeless is nothing comparing to "Scams are non moderated"? I'm not accusing anyone or something. God will judge us all an the basis what we did in our live. I am not giving or selling any information about real names of users, so don't waste your time sending me pm's. I will ignore all of them.

I'm not afraid of some russians..
The russians probably have me on a list for talking shit about russia.. Fine..
Can you get me my whole russian record? That would be interesting to see.. Maybe they have my whole US record and everything? Maybe even my browsing history? Did you see how good my credit score is?
Fuck em.. I hope they enjoy themselves reading about me..

Theymos's real name is not hard to find at all.. SM's dox is out there I think, if it's correct..

I don't think this person is mooseprong.. English is too good..
I see some telltails in this posts language that look familiar but I don't care enough to look into it too much..
Wonder who might be pissed at me..

Lame..
Try harder..


I mentioned the real name of suchmoon.
This is true.. I looked and it was infact caught and archived..
Posting a "dox" outside of investigations.. Tisk Tisk

newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 1
A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette,

 ...probably does have the dox on mosprognoz though
thankfully he won't make it public
says edited by a mod so who I knows what it said originally

Still not one solid argument for retaining red tags and still no rebuttal of the negative impact and danger subjective tagging brings to the community.  That's agreed then.

I received a message from a mod saying he edited my post because I mentioned the real name of suchmoon. Yes I know the real names of   many users. I lived in Russia and in Moscow if you know the right person in the federal security Service (FSB) you can get any name or address of anyone just for some money. But as I understand mentioning the real names is restricted on this "decentralized and free speech" forum. My friend once tried to mention theymos real name and was banned immediately. Crypto and especially this forum became the heaven for scammers. "Scams are non moderated" https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657 that is written in rules. Great. Don't u think that it looks like  "concealing a crime?" or something? Everyone sober or not window licker (mentally sick) knew that bitconnect was a ponzi, but nobody banned the thread due to "Scams are non moderated" end some greedy idiots lost millions of dollars. Bitconnect was just a small part of uncountable scams that forced some gullible investors loosing their hard earned money. I heard that a lot of ppl committed suicides. lost their homes and borrowed money. Now look into your soul and think about that ppl. It was so easy to ban all scammers and lock their threads. Or maybe peoples lives or leaving them homeless is nothing comparing to "Scams are non moderated"? I'm not accusing anyone or something. God will judge us all an the basis what we did in our live. I am not giving or selling any information about real names of users, so don't waste your time sending me pm's. I will ignore all of them.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette,

 ...probably does have the dox on mosprognoz though
thankfully he won't make it public
says edited by a mod so who I knows what it said originally

Still not one solid argument for retaining red tags and still no rebuttal of the negative impact and danger subjective tagging brings to the community.  That's agreed then.



newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 1
A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette,

This is pretty funny... You never had a single positive review in your trust list since 2017. You tried to get one by taking a loan from DarkStar_ in 2016 (around $4-10) to get a positive review, but it did't work coz lenders are giving neutral trust for loans. After that, you sold something  (there is no reference) to RealHummer and received positive review for god knows what. Finally U used OG escrow for selling for buying some cheap staff to yourself or for your alt account and he granted you with a positive review.(there is no reference) Also you were involved in some scams together with a scam master Jim Basko (All his social accounts are abandoned)  Of course you called  Unbreakablecoin a failed project (You was a head of their twitter campaign and a team member) Do you know how much money so called failed projects stole from gullible investors? Hundreds of millions. I do not know why suchmoon is supporting you in any case. My problem is that I know names. Almost all of them and yours too. I will not publish them because I don't want to dox anyone.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
Owlcatz, based on evidence and testimony I have reviewed, played a minor role in the extortion scheme. Even though in a conspiracy, the crimes of one are the crimes of all, I believe it is appropriate to remove his name from the thread. If you disagree, or if you disagree with removing the tag against Lauda, you are free to add one yourself.

I don’t think moving to a flag system exclusively would solve the trust system problems. The flag system, and the smaller impact of negative ratings make it so an individual cannot unilaterally ruin a persons reputation.

There is still the problem of mob justice and the lack of accountability in the trust system. The excuse of many has frequently been that xx is a net benefit to the trust system and this is why a controversial rating can be overlooked. I don’t think this should be an acceptable answer, especially if the controversial rating in question is actually many ratings regarding many distinct situations. Over time people have been tagged, and when they had no realistic chance of defending themselves nor remediating their reputation after a mistake, they would rage quit, sometimes with a scam attempt that was either not serious or had no reasonable chance of succeeding. There are many guilty of doing this and more that defended this.

Many people have made mistakes in the past, and I would not suggest a permanent scarlet letter for most people that engaged in the above, especially if they are trying to be a benefit to the trust system. I have seen some people improve their behavior on a limited basis, even if I still disagree with their past behavior and some of their current ratings.  

If you are willing to play a minor role in trying to extort another member of the forum, and then for years support those that played a major role in that extortion, and one that performed a very dirty looking escrow. Then it is quite foolish to say that it increases the safety of other members to remove those warnings. This is nonsense.

What you had previously done was nothing near as bad as trying to ruthlessly extort a member. I had always thought with the self escrowing that the person duped lost nothing compared to using any other escrow and you could do so placing him at no greater risk because you knew you would uphold your end. It was sneaky but nothing like threatening people and attempting to extort large amounts of money from them.

This deal you have cut is obscene and anyone can see how it went down.

Leaving this aside since specific examples are not of prime interest to me.

Let me say that your post makes no sense to anyone who has been here for years and know things really work.

I will present some inviolable truths.

* the vast majority want to earn with sigs
* red tags can jeopardize or prevent earning with a sig and trading
* red tags or threat thereof can prevent people from enjoying freedom of speech and create echo chambers
* lack of freedom of speech prevents powerful scammers being outed and taken down
* If you do not have objective evidence to present of scamming and no strong objective corroborating evidence that clearly demonstrates attempting to scam or setting up a scam. There is no reason to damage their account
* allowing people to leave red tags on others without requiring objective. evidence leaves it dude open to abuse and manipulation which again leads to crushing of free speech, powerful scammers getting a free pass, innocent members incorrectly tagged and a general devaluing of the ratings and increase risk.

Those are insoluble problems without moving to the flagging system. People will only be able to ruin your account if it deserves to be ruined.

The only persons wishing to retain tagging are those that either can not grasp those inviolable truths or wish to keep abusing the trust system for their own ends.

Move to an objective standards based trust system that only targets scammers that are clearly a direct financial threat, and cut back on the individual swuabbles. This would be optimal in terms of retaining free speech and providing a sensible and accurate warning system for those posing a financial threat.

Your points for retaining the tagging system are invalid. That is not an opinion, the  net benefit of removal is crystal clear.

When can we see tagging removed. This subjective damaging nonsense has surely had it's time. All the problems that existed with it have been increased since reducing the threshold to anything goes. Could you design something to crush free
speech with greater efficiency. You can for any reason you like take away a persons sig and trading potential.  What a stupid design.

What a coincidence,  lauda decided QS deal was a go, owlcatz and tman are right there like with the extortion. Not that you'd know that now because QS has redacted his name. I guess that correlation being hidden from view makes everyone far more safe. Thanks QS.

Imagine the probability of after years with people adamant each other were scammers. Then all in a small space in time with no deals cut and using only their idividual ' good judgement ' poof it's all gone and was all just one big mistskr. Rather than red trust they should have positive trust. They shot through neutral and are certainly to be trusted. This is a very useful trust system.
legendary
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I have seen some people improve their behavior on a limited basis

I have just left QS a positive trust, all this peace and love shit has got to me. I dont know if its my inner hippy, or the fact I want to engage in the QS, Lauda, TMAN sexual 3 way.. anyway - giving him a chance, not that it matters with 22000 negs against him, but if a few more people remove negs (I in no way at all fucking advise to change trust lists, until the reformed character has really proved his worth) but a small piece from TMAN is sent.

peace and love from the middle east you fucko's
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
There is still the problem of mob justice and the lack of accountability in the trust system. The excuse of many has frequently been that xx is a net benefit to the trust system and this is why a controversial rating can be overlooked. I don’t think this should be an acceptable answer, especially if the controversial rating in question is actually many ratings regarding many distinct situations.
This. I have grown to agree with this excuse being improper for overlooking something. An occasions or two perhaps, but over many distinct situations no. OP's suggestion doesn't do much, red trust has barely any effect nowadays. I'm also sorry that you're being attacked over this, but as some others have pointed out: Wage war - you get attacked for it, make peace - you get attacked for it. Nothing one does is correct. Undecided

*Barely has any effect on people like you who do little to no trading here anyway. Why should you give a fuck when other people are paying the cost?
copper member
Activity: 2926
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There are multiple people that are guilty of this and these add up.

This empowers some other people to just go crazy with ratings that really don’t have any basis in fact or reality and act in bad faith when someone tries to talk about it.

People should have the right to express their opinion on if someone is a scammer or a high risk to deal with. If these opinions are not in line with the community as a whole, they shouldn’t be on DT, or they should leave ratings not in line with community consensus from an alt not on DT.
legendary
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Merit: 2965
Terminated.
There is still the problem of mob justice and the lack of accountability in the trust system. The excuse of many has frequently been that xx is a net benefit to the trust system and this is why a controversial rating can be overlooked. I don’t think this should be an acceptable answer, especially if the controversial rating in question is actually many ratings regarding many distinct situations.
This. I have grown to agree with this excuse being improper for overlooking something. An occasions or two perhaps, but over many distinct situations no. OP's suggestion doesn't do much, red trust has barely any effect nowadays. I'm also sorry that you're being attacked over this, but as some others have pointed out: Wage war - you get attacked for it, make peace - you get attacked for it. Nothing one does is correct. Undecided
copper member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 2348
Owlcatz, based on evidence and testimony I have reviewed, played a minor role in the extortion scheme. Even though in a conspiracy, the crimes of one are the crimes of all, I believe it is appropriate to remove his name from the thread. If you disagree, or if you disagree with removing the tag against Lauda, you are free to add one yourself.

I don’t think moving to a flag system exclusively would solve the trust system problems. The flag system, and the smaller impact of negative ratings make it so an individual cannot unilaterally ruin a persons reputation.

There is still the problem of mob justice and the lack of accountability in the trust system. The excuse of many has frequently been that xx is a net benefit to the trust system and this is why a controversial rating can be overlooked. I don’t think this should be an acceptable answer, especially if the controversial rating in question is actually many ratings regarding many distinct situations. Over time people have been tagged, and when they had no realistic chance of defending themselves nor remediating their reputation after a mistake, they would rage quit, sometimes with a scam attempt that was either not serious or had no reasonable chance of succeeding. There are many guilty of doing this and more that defended this.

Many people have made mistakes in the past, and I would not suggest a permanent scarlet letter for most people that engaged in the above, especially if they are trying to be a benefit to the trust system. I have seen some people improve their behavior on a limited basis, even if I still disagree with their past behavior and some of their current ratings. 
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
Re https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53831608

I can use my good judgement to see if I believe they will reoffend or attempt a similar negative scheme again. Based on my good judgment, I don’t think Lauda will try a similar scheme in the future.

You are free to disagree with me if you choose. If you are who I think you are, you don’t like to criticize people with a lot of influence, at least not from your primary account. If you disagree, you are free to leave Lauda a negative rating for his previous misdeeds.

Let’s be honest though, I don’t think you actually care about warning the community about Lauda. My rating was not on the first page of Laudas trust wall, and probably wasn’t on the second. I think it would be unlikely for anyone unaware of his past to ever see my rating.

We get it, you worked hard to build a new account PN7 and lauda put a red tag on it jeopardizing your new sig revenue. So your ' good judgement ' to apologize and retract the pill accusations, redact and soften the extortion thread and now start claiming lauda is not a danger to the community all happens as his ' good judgement ' removed your red tags from PN7 and quickseller. Which happens at the same time owlcatz ' good judgement' to remove your tags and your good judgement to remove owlcatz name from the extortion thread. After years of certainty each other are among the most dangerous scammers here all of a sudden and at the very same time your ' good judgements' all benefit each other.

That's a great story.

Those using theymos ' forgive and de-esculate' instructions are taking this out of context, a proven scammer does not need to de-esculate with their tagger. There is no forgiveness for trying to extort or scam another member.

Theymos was obviously talking about the petty individual squabbles that the tagging system is abused with.
There is no way to argue the safety of the forum is increased by the removal of warnings on repeat scammers and offenders.
You have cut a deal with lauda and remain forever now his bitch.
Let's stick with Ch toaa, I don't wish for this to turn into who's alt is it and detail the true purpose of this thread.

There remains no sign of a single valid reply or reason to retain the flagging system is there?
So there is no good reason to keep it and clearly it is abused and manipulated to crush free speech and also leveraged by scammers to ensure they can not be correctly branded as scammers. it can be used to punish persons speaking the truth about scammers.
Theymos where are you? why have you retained this mess of a tagging system and appear to have lowered the responsibilty to leave tags? are you sleeping at the wheel or intending to drive us all over the cliff edge ?

Move to the flag system, and give clear guidance that even the thought crimes yellow flag must only be given / supported when there is clear and strong evidence of direct financial risk.
legendary
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Complete removal of negative tags would be less than fair to users like me, and most others, that have gone their entire histories here NOT raising any cause for a red warning.. Similar to canceling student debt isn't fair to all those who have no student debt, or have paid it..
A long standing perfectly clean account (like mine) having no history of mischief or "financially motivated wrongdoing" is hard earned and only accomplished with great care and great etiquette, which the vast majority of red tagged accounts have breached in some way shape or form..

On the other hand, I might be in favor of removing the negative tag feature, and rolling them all into neutrals, and from then on relying solely on the Flag system with it's higher standards (maybe even increasing those standards also), because these negative ratings are all too often abused for persona grudges and used with far too low of standards..

Do you have any idea how many likely valuable members I have seen ran off this forum by red-tag addicts for at many times simple mistakes or etiquette infractions? Tons!!
Running off all these likely valuable future members over such petty shit over the years has almost certainly been a detriment to this community and likely even pushed many out of Cryptocurrency entirely.. Going back to the point of how difficult it has been for users to maintain perfectly clean accounts over the past years, not making any mistakes, and having the education of etiquette to even know what mistakes not to make..

Far too much of a "safe space" mentality has also been created..
Tagging ALL sold accounts in attempt to keep everyone safe from possibly being scammed by a sold account?
Like you are actually going to stop users vulnerable to being scammed from being scammed.. They'll just go buy an ICO and be scammed by that..
Probably a better chance of being scammed by an ICO than by a sold account, but they all don't get automatic red tags, lol.. And they scam in the $$ Millions ($Billions?)
Hardly anyone would consider all of the digital value in this community has been basically burned by tagging all those accounts (akin to burning Bitcoins), and all the likely valuable users that have been ran out of here tagging ALL of their accounts because one of them has been found to be purchased so they could, heaven forbid, earn some crypto posting..
"Account buyers are not to be trusted" - OMG thank you sooo much for padding the walls incase I bump my elbow!!
Poor decision IMO..

Liberal use of red tags has probably cost this community the loss of more valuable users than scammers have..
Users tend to come back or not leave after getting themselves scammed, they learn from it.. Users that have been ran off over the possible chance of scam probably aren't coming back.. Users that have been ran off because they didn't know what not to do, are probably not coming back..


A lot of the reason I am so hard on DT taggers is that I have seen them destroy hundreds and hundreds of accounts over a lot of petty shit over the years and have ran those users out of here, so they damn well better not be hypocrites!

But oh no!! What's this? The good outweighs the bad? So they are just allowed to be hypocrites?
Can't run them out of here with red tags because they have ran so many users out of here with red tags? Or because they do business? Can't hold them to their own inflicted standards?
Nah..

The trust system should not have been so liberalized in the first place, reserved only for truly bad and dangerous users..
Maybe it should just be completely removed..
legendary
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I won't be negging you just as I didn't neg PN7. Have at it so long as you can remain un-cunty.

I.E. "Stop saying things I don't like or I will use the trust system against you to force you into silence."
copper member
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Re https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53831608

I can use my good judgement to see if I believe they will reoffend or attempt a similar negative scheme again. Based on my good judgment, I don’t think Lauda will try a similar scheme in the future.

You are free to disagree with me if you choose. If you are who I think you are, you don’t like to criticize people with a lot of influence, at least not from your primary account. If you disagree, you are free to leave Lauda a negative rating for his previous misdeeds.

Let’s be honest though, I don’t think you actually care about warning the community about Lauda. My rating was not on the first page of Laudas trust wall, and probably wasn’t on the second. I think it would be unlikely for anyone unaware of his past to ever see my rating.
legendary
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Oh please. Its obviously cryptohunter, refreshed from their "vacation."

The constant posting in Meta and Reputation.
The obvious dislike of Lauda, TMAN and suchmoon.
The 6th grader nicknames.
The long-winded spiels about the trust system and forum injustices.

Though I am happy they haven't tried to shit down my neck thus far let's not pretend this might not be cryptohunter.

As for the subject at hand: red trust has already been removed. Its now orange trust.

Can't remove the negative sign. Can't get people to always leave negatives only for scammers.

I think the recent Default Trust changes are a good idea, however I do think the merit requirements for voting need to be upped at a rate proportional to that being introduced into the system.

OK trust or dare, I've said all I need to say. I won't be negging you just as I didn't neg PN7. Have at it so long as you can remain un-cunty.

Just put the disgusting cunt on ignore dude. Life is better when that negativity is blocked outs

I do wonder about the users mental state after all this behaviour
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