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legendary
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August 11, 2017, 02:58:14 PM
#24
Alright, I will send you imgur and zerobin link.
You don't have to send it to me, just upload it in OP:

That has nothing to do with it. Take me as an example:
1) I didn't know who he was at the time.
You didn't knew me when I went to jail. You still don't know me other than my online profile.
That has nothing to do with what I said. I was aware of the user escrow.ms at the time, and have possibly even commented on the main thread regarding your situation (not sure). I had no idea who Shreem was nor whether he had a BTCT account.

Because I'm a honest member of this community and I don't think I deserve these ratings.
That's not how this messy trust system works though.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 02:46:34 PM
#23
I was following your case the moment it hit the news and if the things you have said is true i am really sad to hear the plight you are in,yes the chances of you being fucked up for not looking at the source of the money is really high and it hit you really hard and this is a clear warning for every trader who does business,never do deals without having a proper check about the source of money,hope you could provide the evidence and prove your innocence in court .
Good luck buddy.

Thank you so much.
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August 11, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
#22
I was following your case the moment it hit the news and if the things you have said is true i am really sad to hear the plight you are in,yes the chances of you being fucked up for not looking at the source of the money is really high and it hit you really hard and this is a clear warning for every trader who does business,never do deals without having a proper check about the source of money,hope you could provide the evidence and prove your innocence in court .
Good luck buddy.
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August 11, 2017, 02:22:18 PM
#21
I am really very sorry about what has happened with you Pankaj. I wish you can recover soon from this mental torture soon.
I am really curious to know how are you planning to defend yourself in court?
Court needs proofs & facts. Do you have some proofs against Sumeir that he was actually the mastermind behind all this & you were just used as a puppet?

Do you have bitcoin addresses of Sumeir to which you ever sent any BTC? Did you try to trace what's happening with all the bitcoin that you sold him?

Do you have Bank details of Sumeir from which you were receiving bank transfers before you started accepting cash from him?
 
Did you try to contact this IDBI Bank branch in Surat whose customers are the real victims to understand what has actually happened?
Was their any breach in bank's security or how was this guy who was arrested in Mumbai was able to withdraw funds from debit cards of these customers (without customer's consent)?

Did IDBI Bank give any official statement about this theft?

Were any of these customers ever filed complaint against the guy who was caught redhanded in Mumbai or against IDBI Bank?

This INR 14.5 Lakhs cash that you handed over to Police: Do you have any receipts or anything to prove that you were unaware of the origin of these funds and this money was taken by Police from you and never given back to you or the IDBI Bank customers (to which it actually belongs)?

As you have already spent 13 months in jail, so are you planning to sue the Police officials who extorted this money from you?
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August 11, 2017, 01:46:21 PM
#20
I'm pankaj bhardwaj from Ghaziabad (Which comes under Delhi NCR Region) India.
Your Linkedin profile does not exist. As u have stated, your real name is Pankaj Bhardwaj, r u anyway related to GBminers/GainBitcoin owner Amit Bhardwaj?

Details about Sumier shaikh and his transactions
Does Sumier Shaikh exist on BitcoinTalk? If yes, can u please provide us his ID? Do u have his photo or FaceBook profile or phone no.? Can u please provide us any of those?

After some hours he called me again and said mumbai angadiya guy was arrested.
This is a learning for everyone over here. U were supposed contact a lawyer immediately after this. In an financial transaction chain, if one point is involved in illegal thing then the whole chain become suspect and law-enforcement tend to go for the whole chain.

After midnight they called me and asked me to strip and give all the things I have. They slapped me as I was unable to tell them the name of my grandfathers home where I never went in my whole life.
That's terrible.

I was sent to mumbai (A city I've never been before) in the night and was told that they will be taking 3.5 Lac rupees from remaining funds and I need to stay quiet in front of seniors otherwise they will beat me and make my case tough for me.
So, law-enforcement literally extorted money from u?

Ps: My only crime was to sell bitcoins to a person without asking his source of money and I believe I've gotten my punishment by spending 13 months in Jail. I've suffered a lot and my family suffered more. I was never involved in a crime and will never be. I've spent a long time in bitcoin community and always tried to spread awareness about bitcoins in India.
I totally sympathize with u, but u probably misunderstood your mistake. Selling bitcoin for cash was most likely the spark for law-enforcement.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 10:20:12 AM
#19
Under what UID name does this charlie Shrem use here on BCT?

I'm sorry but you know nothing about bitcoin community or it's members.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
#18

I would like to ask you the same question? Why didn't you waited for the outcome or waited for me to come back instead of copy pasting same thing in my profile as others when I was not there to defend myself?

Because it had been independently verified that you had been arrested and charged with a crime.

Verified by whom? News papers? Did you tried investigating yourself? Did you checked my localbitcoins profile or checked my trades here or talked to someone who really knew me.
If you would have done that you would have realized that I was just a bitcoin trader who was doing his business honestly. That crime has nothing to do with me. They used me as a scapegoat because I was soft target for them.

Sometimes I really wish there was a public ledger of a person's activity so I could prove I am not a criminal. I've always remained open about my real life identity and almost everyone who is trading in India knows me very well. You can ask them about me.
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August 11, 2017, 09:43:21 AM
#17

I would like to ask you the same question? Why didn't you waited for the outcome or waited for me to come back instead of copy pasting same thing in my profile as others when I was not there to defend myself?


Because it had been independently verified that you had been arrested and charged with a crime.

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August 11, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
#16
And again apologies for my ignorance about Indian culture, what is

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30 lac rupees

Is that 30,000 rupees?

30,000,000 rupees?

30,000,000,000 rupees?

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August 11, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
#15
Under what UID name does this charlie Shrem use here on BCT?

I ask because Escrow.ms hasn't red flagged any UID with the name "charlie" or "Shrem":  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76380 so I'm wondering why Escrow.ms would be bellyaching TM about Red Paint TM splashed about (or not as the case may be) for another UID.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 09:08:31 AM
#14
If that's your main concern I would like to inform you I'm not into trading anymore

So why do you care about your negative rating?

As has been said, Charlie Shrem had his day in court, yours is yet to come. Why do you have a problem with waiting for the outcome if you're not using this account to trade?

legendary
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August 11, 2017, 08:32:40 AM
#13
I have given all details in my first PM. Please check google drive link.
I don't usually touch links like that, thus a different upload location could be preferred. If the content is text, then I recommend zerobin, otherwise imgur for images (unless it needs to be private).

There is a difference, none of you left negative feedback on charlie shrem's profile.
That has nothing to do with it. Take me as an example:
1) I didn't know who he was at the time.
2) I was not a DT member nor leaving negative ratings at the time.
3) I don't even know which BTCT account is his(?).
4) His situation and yours, although both relating to money laundering, are quite different.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 08:02:40 AM
#12
I forgot to archive the list of people that neg. rated you, so here it is. I want to keep track as to who removed/changed theirs. Thanks for not PM-ing me anymore.

My concern is that, even if your explanation of events is true..
I doubt that there is a way for us to know with 100% certainty that the story (as told by OP) is true.

If that's your main concern I would like to inform you I'm not into trading anymore and please tell why people like Charlie shrem are still doing business and considered as top bitcoin personalities.
Charlie Shrem has served his sentence. Your court case is on-going. Massive difference there.
legendary
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August 11, 2017, 07:22:36 AM
#11
My concern is that, even if your explanation of events is true and that you were not aware you were receiving stolen money and effectively laundering it for bitcoin, you've still got a court case to get through and you're now on the radar of law enforcement as somebody who they can shakedown at the drop of a hat.

Essentially the reality is that you could be in the middle of a legitimate trade in the future and get locked up before you can complete.

Whatever your intentions may be there is a real risk of a trade going bad and people who deal with you do need to understand this.


I'd rather wait for the outcome of the court case to be known. No matter how innocent you claim to be, you are facing charges which make you somebody who is very high risk to trade with at this time.


legendary
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August 11, 2017, 06:06:25 AM
#10
I have been thinking about the situation for a while and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything about the lawyer ? Did you have your lawyer ? If yes,why didn't they bail you out or did whatever it takes to not let you rot in the cell for 13 months assuming you were never guilty ? Don't tell me you used a Government lawyer.
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August 10, 2017, 12:42:09 PM
#9
I was arrested on 8th of feb from my home but in news it's 9th and according to them I was arrested from India Gate (I've never seen India gate).

This doesn't surprise me, journalists defend their jobs, even if it means publishing something false they will publish it




After my arrest no investigation was done

the real culprit still free?


legendary
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August 10, 2017, 09:46:14 AM
#8
If you did not steal anyone here in the forum and you do not seem to have stolen anyone in real life then i think it would be fair for people to remove negative feedack
legendary
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August 10, 2017, 06:06:37 AM
#7
your in jail now?

The guy literally said they were released, so why, being such a blind, are you asking a stupid question here?
Pankaj, my sincere kind-hearted love to you brother as the place where you live, I know very well how tough it is to deal with situations there and when you get stuck, they just drag your family members too into this without any involvement of them. One of my colleagues went there and was arrested due to some misconceptions and got a bail after giving $2500 cash to the officer who arrested them. Such a shame that people like these are holding these high statuses and none can do anything against them. I feel pity for you but proud to see the way you dealt with the situations bravely.
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August 10, 2017, 03:11:16 AM
#6
your in jail now?
legendary
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August 10, 2017, 01:01:33 AM
#5
I am not interested in the personal story, but will watch and see how others handle this and would likely follow the *will of the majority*. Good luck.
Note: I am only posting here since you've sent me a PM.
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