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While we're exploring improbabilities, here are a couple you might consider:

- Havelock vanishes.  I know, impossible, except for the long, sordid history of vanishing/mysteriously hacked exchanges.


RentalStarter survived BitFunder's death. It wasn't an ideal transition, but it was very well handled, and there was frequent communication via email and this thread.

You can read more about it in the history of this thread.
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@tempestb:
Lol, not giving name when asked--hallmark of transparency, very confidence! Cheesy

BTW, didn't you rage at me once for questioning the integrity of Mr. Kenneth Slaughter, the CEO of Active Mining, your other sterling investment?
How's that going, all good?

Man, you're not even a good troll.  Now you're just making stuff up!  Wow, you must be some depressed hobo with no life to be grasping at straws.  I've never been pro AMC.  But you keep guessing.  Maybe something will stick.

Sorry, you intrepid investors all start blending together.  But hey, no need for me to grasp.  To show you there are no hard feelings, I'll send you a personalized condolences gif when you lose a sufficient portion of your coin to this investment.  You're down anywhere from 18 to 40 percent thus far, at what point would you like your gif?  50%?  75?  90?  Just name it and I'll be glad to accommodate Smiley

  ~Happy investing.

Edit:  Ohai Kushedout, any luck tracking down Mr. Labcoin?  Perhaps if you raised your bounty a bit...

So many moguls of finance in the same thread.  Intoxicating!
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SaluS - (SLS)
Can we not feed the troll please?

So, far this thread has been packed with 34 pages of useful/relevant information. 
Lets not break that trend.
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@tempestb:
Lol, not giving name when asked--hallmark of transparency, very confidence! Cheesy

BTW, didn't you rage at me once for questioning the integrity of Mr. Kenneth Slaughter, the CEO of Active Mining, your other sterling investment?
How's that going, all good?

Man, you're not even a good troll.  Now you're just making stuff up!  Wow, you must be some depressed hobo with no life to be grasping at straws.  I've never been pro AMC.  But you keep guessing.  Maybe something will stick.
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@tempestb:
Lol, not giving name when asked--hallmark of transparency, very confidence! Cheesy

BTW, didn't you rage at me once for questioning the integrity of Mr. Kenneth Slaughter, the CEO of Active Mining, your other sterling investment?
How's that going, all good?

A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. Angry
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name? 

His name is in the history of the thread.  I know it.  His email is as well.  You can look it up.  I'm not doing your work for you.

My facebook, twitter and linkedin profiles have also been posted several times. Along with links to the Ohio SOS pages, my real estate license data from the Ohio div RE. Much of this information also can be found several places on the havelock listing agreement/prospectus.

How many times can the two of you fail at answering a simple question?  Your full name can't possibly be longer than all the typing the two of you did to avoid posting it.

Now act like an adult and type "My name is ______ ______."

I just did 2 minutes of research and found his full name and LLC license.
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How many times can the two of you fail at answering a simple question?  Your full name can't possibly be longer than all the typing the two of you did to avoid posting it.

ow act like an adult and type "My name is ______ ______."

Because we know the only reason you want it is to create more FUD in here.  So we're not going to assist you in your stupidity.
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name?  

His name is in the history of the thread.  I know it.  His email is as well.  You can look it up.  I'm not doing your work for you.

My facebook, twitter and linkedin profiles have also been posted several times. Along with links to the Ohio SOS pages, my real estate license data from the Ohio div RE. Much of this information also can be found several places on the havelock listing agreement/prospectus.

How many times can the two of you fail at answering a simple question?  Your full name can't possibly be longer than all the typing the two of you did to avoid posting it.

Now act like an adult and type "My name is ______ ______."
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name?  

His name is in the history of the thread.  I know it.  His email is as well.  You can look it up.  I'm not doing your work for you.  Isn't that your whole point?  That people should do their own investigating?

Stop acting like a sulky child and give me his name.  Why is getting the name of your asset issuer like pulling teeth?
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name?  

His name is in the history of the thread.  I know it.  His email is as well.  You can look it up.  I'm not doing your work for you.

My facebook, twitter and linkedin profiles have also been posted several times. Along with links to the Ohio SOS pages, my real estate license data from the Ohio div RE. Much of this information also can be found several places on the havelock listing agreement/prospectus.
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name?  

His name is in the history of the thread.  I know it.  His email is as well.  You can look it up.  I'm not doing your work for you.  Isn't that your whole point?  That people should do their own investigating?
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While we're exploring improbabilities, here are a couple you might consider:

- Havelock vanishes.  I know, impossible, except for the long, sordid history of vanishing/mysteriously hacked exchanges.

- Branny vanishing.  Again, unthinkable!  But not as unlikely as NEOBEE's Danny Brewster, Bitcointalk's  most public entrepreneur, vanishing.

What's Branny's name, BTW?


Havelock vanishes - Two times per day I am sent a list of all shareholders and their contact information (emails). In the event of HL disappearing we can work on transition to another exchange, or system that would allow business to continue.

I vanish - There's two options here #1 being untimely demise, #2 would be me taking money and running.

For #1 We have set in place several agreements for management. Ben, the owner of BuyAHash will take over management duties in the case of my death or incapacitation. From that point on he will be able to either liquidate the properties & bank accounts and disburse funds to investors OR continue management of the company. As it is, 90% of the daily operations are outsourced, and the training required to do my part is quite easy. I could create a manual of practices to help guide Benny or someone to continue the daily management aspect, or liquidation.

For #2 it would be quite difficult for me to take money and run outside of the bank accounts. Most of our larger investors have deed copies, addresses and all pertinent information for our properties. They would immediately know that this has occurred and could seek legal action.

The best option for investors, and it is one that we're pursuing is to set up a legal power of attorney locally that would have the authorization to liquidate all assets in the case of a substantial breach of trust or death. I already have messages out to several individuals locally who can do this, but haven't had enough response to get it set up fully. This would be kind of like an automatic deed in lieu of foreclosure that executes on specific financial or ethical events.

As for my name/contact information - It's been posted here twice, i won't re-post, and instead will make you go through the responses to find it.
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What can be simpler than giving the full name of your asset issuer?  This is not a game.  Again, what is his name? 
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While we're exploring improbabilities, here are a couple you might consider:

- Havelock vanishes.  I know, impossible, except for the long, sordid history of vanishing/mysteriously hacked exchanges.

- Branny vanishing.  Again, unthinkable!  But not as unlikely as NEOBEE's Danny Brewster, Bitcointalk's  most public entrepreneur, vanishing.

What's Branny's name, BTW?


Already discussed both of these things.  You should maybe read the thread and not pretend that we haven't done due diligence.  If you're going to look him up on Google and find his Real-Estate license and such, we've done that all too.  Maybe read the thread, it'd be good for you to do that.  You might learn something.

 
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While we're exploring improbabilities, here are a couple you might consider:

- Havelock vanishes.  I know, impossible, except for the long, sordid history of vanishing/mysteriously hacked exchanges.

- Branny vanishing.  Again, unthinkable!  But not as unlikely as NEOBEE's Danny Brewster, Bitcointalk's  most public entrepreneur, vanishing.

What's Branny's name, BTW?
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I for one, like NotLambchop's posts. Yes, they are, to the posts I've read, always negative. But that is good. He's pointed out things I have missed, and I thank him for it. Is posting additional information, questions, scrutinizing everything, and gathering additional information such a bad thing?

If a thread was ONLY positive, such as all those scam and failed IPO's I've seen, I'd be wary. I've been burnt on a few things when I first got into bitcoinland due to my inexperience, and wish there had been more people being the naysayers.

Caveat emptor.

Disclaimer: I'm invested into RentalStarter

No you're right, its good to chip away at any possible holes to make sure issuers are being honest.  The Providence (PROV) ASIC offering was picked apart this way and for good reason, as they were evaluating the company at an absurd level, giving only ~2% to investors.

Are there risks with Rental Starter?  Oh hell yeah, just as there are risks with any investment.  There's a difference though between communicating risks in a balanced way and launching into a Y2K-esque hysteria about how everything's a Madoff scheme.

Now granted, most are - and to reiterate what I've previously stated and be fair, I've agreed with NotLambchop on 95+% of his other equity reviews.  The community does (desperately) need watchdogs like Puppet and NotLambchop.  They provide a very valuable and necessary vetting service to warn investors of the duds.

The value behind this equity is that (1) Branny himself is invested in it with his time and money, (2) the ambiguous regulatory environment, in my opinion, currently leans toward allowing the type of investment core to Rental Starter's business plan, and (3) relatively speaking American real estate is cheaper than blow in Bogota right now, and (4) post-housing crash, with these low prices, the price-to-rent (analogous to/same thing as gross P/E for stocks) ratio is looking better than ever as people continue to shift toward renting vs. buying housing (especially younger people with outstanding student debt and young families working to build credit).

You're right to request a view of the risks involved here.  Many have already been covered, but I will create a list summarizing those which could impact the business the most.  I think that this is definitely healthy, and I also feel that this asset's investor community is one of the few that might be able to do so without verbally butchering each other in the process.

jjdub7's Projected Risks & Mitigations:

- Illiquidity:

Unavoidable, especially in the early stages and after BTC/USD-volatility-induced selloffs and due to the nature of listing on Havelock, but will decrease over time as the company maintains a successful track record and Havelock finally sifts through enough garbage to find the diamonds in the rough worth listing.

Probability: short-term medium-high; long-term unknown, optimistic

- Regulatory:

Rejection by the SEC for registration (if this does happen, keep in mind that investors could still restructure their equity in the company in a manner that complies with finalized regulation).  In this case, personally I would consider becoming an accredited investor to maintain my equity, though I realize this option is not open to everyone.

Probability: unknown, optimistic.  As detailed in my earlier posts, this will largely depend on the SEC's evaluation of Branny's character/mgmt ability/records/business plan, the resources (i.e. auditors) he chooses for 3rd party functions, Rental Starter's continued compliance with applicable tax law, leverage levels and financials, and levels of current capital raised vs. what has been returned to investors at this stage.

- Housing market volatility:

Similar to what caused the '08 mortgage crisis, if the housing market were to take a further dive, Rental Starter could run into solvency issues with its creditors.  This can be mitigated through proper planning of loans, structuring of dividends, and maintenance of cash flows and working capital - it is not rocket science.  There are tried-and-true methods of doing this.

Probability: unlikely, due to the current record-low state of the market.

- Forex Risk (i.e. the BTC/USD factor)

The asset price, as determined in BTC, will likely fluctuate with the US dollar, as both revenues and assets are priced in USD markets.  Because dividends are received in BTC, however, it is my understanding (anyone with a CPA and knowledge of BTC tax liability - verification on this would be great) that only when gains or losses are realized in USD do investors become liable for a capital gains tax burden (20%, because the money is generated from capital investment into a commodity, which may change according to IRS views of BTC/cryptos - detailed below).  This is in contrast to mining operations, which would cost investors their marginal income tax rate of the proceeds, as mining is currently classified as income.

Overall, not a huge issue, as the dollar value of your RENT investment will hold.  This attribute will actually mitigate the forex risk across the rest of investors' BTC portfolios (portions of the portfolio which have yields driven by BTC-denominated revenues) since it functions to balance (hedge) the portfolio against such currency fluctuations.

- Tax Risk (i.e. the IRS factor)

The same risk inherent across the BTC equity spectrum - how the IRS will classify tax liabilities of investments in BTC and BTC-denominated equities.  Currently BTC is considered a commodity by the IRS, but this could change.  For more ont he topic, read up on the cryptocurrency bill recently passed by the California legislature and signed by Gov. Brown, as well as a federal-level bill sponsored by Congressman Stockman of Texas.
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I think asking Branny for clarification on things is fine.  But now he's being ridiculous saying it's a Ponzi.  That comes off like he's got some vendetta and isn't even an investor or even wants to be.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue why I invest in Branny.  I think he's doing a great job. 
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I for one, like NotLambchop's posts. Yes, they are, to the posts I've read, always negative. But that is good. He's pointed out things I have missed, and I thank him for it. Is posting additional information, questions, scrutinizing everything, and gathering additional information such a bad thing?

If a thread was ONLY positive, such as all those scam and failed IPO's I've seen, I'd be wary. I've been burnt on a few things when I first got into bitcoinland due to my inexperience, and wish there had been more people being the naysayers.

Caveat emptor.

Disclaimer: I'm invested into RentalStarter
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Mmhmm, and you think that the SEC is going to waste its time coming down on Rental Starter ex post facto before/instead of pushing the proposed revisions (i.e. Title III) through first?  When they have bigger fish to fry?  Trololol, that's rich.
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Lolno.  Just like the cops won't go after Dimebag Pedro.  OTOH, if Dimebag Pedro walks into a police station and goes on record as a dealer of dimebags, i'm sure they'll take him in.
Branny, if you will remember, is in the final stages of registering with the SEC to garner some tasty VC cheddar--that's what I found particularly lulzy.
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