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Well, guess the cat's out of the bag, tempestb.  I'm also Branny and Benny1985.  And everyone else on this forum that I set up for you.


I'll admit, I laughed.
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With houses4bitcoins, it looks like it just points towards Havelock if you decide to contribute any funding, which means that its just a placeholder page, correct? Is that illegal? I don't know, but could this be like posting a rental property on multiple websites?

PS who are you people who have the time to look this stuff up? Are you unemployed and just have a lot of time on your hands, or are you being employed to find this, and if so, by who?

The intention with houses4bitcoin was to potentially offer an alternative to havelock and open up crowdfunding a mortgage for the properties. I started on this before the HL IPO had finished when there was a concern that we wouldn't do very well and would be caught short on funding of Scioto #1. In the end the website was totally un-needed since the 1st HL tranche went so well.

I really thought that I had 301'd the site to havelock, but I guess I just linked/redirected to the HL page.
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With houses4bitcoins, it looks like it just points towards Havelock if you decide to contribute any funding, which means that its just a placeholder page, correct? Is that illegal? I don't know, but could this be like posting a rental property on multiple websites?

PS who are you people who have the time to look this stuff up? Are you unemployed and just have a lot of time on your hands, or are you being employed to find this, and if so, by who?
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These accusations are getting funny.  Since nothing is working, he's just trying for any dumb thing now.  Maybe one of his three accounts can find some evidence of Branny jaywalking.  That might hurt the share price.  Investors beware!

Well, guess the cat's out of the bag, tempestb.  I'm also Branny and Benny1985.  And everyone else on this forum that I set up for you.
Hope this doesn't ruin your "investing experience," but the joke's getting tired and I'm getting bored.

Ah, never mind.
Just forget it...

The forum is real, with many totally not me people posting.  You're a manly financial visionary. a maverick!  Adored by children and mothers who birthed them, respected by industrialists and feared by Bankers!  Soon you'll thrust your well-funded Havelock portfolio into their filthy [yet ...oddly alluring and... arousing?] fiat heart.  Yeah, I said heart.

Now get back to investing, tempestb, and continue holding your girthy holdings--the girls are watching!
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asbestos can be sealed under new siding with minimal cost, FYI. And its not illegal. Same can be done with lead paint if it is not chipping or peeling.

These accusations are getting funny.  Since nothing is working, he's just trying for any dumb thing now.  Maybe one of his three accounts can find some evidence of Branny jaywalking.  That might hurt the share price.  Investors beware!


Ready for something funnier?


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Tri-Plex
1 Studio, 1 2-bed , 1 3-bed
2,700+ square feet
Location : Ohio
Purchase price ฿116 *
Monthly income – ฿1.5 *
Yield – 15.5%/year *
Funding




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Features
2 homes on one lot
1 Duplex + 1 Detached home
 Unit #1 – 3br , Unit #2 – 2br , Unit #3 – 1br
Built in around 1900



Now, pay close attention because I'm about to do something...



Now, tell me what goes through a person's mind that they needed to flip an image of a house to secure funding sans disclosing such facts, just like they never mentioned asbestos or lead paint abatement in their business plan, two major expenses incurred if such is present and renovations are in order, both of which are highly likely.

Here's the Google maps street view:


But the houses4bitcoins is 100% illegal, There are only 2 states that allow for more then 1 lender on a property with out it being a classified as a REIT. It does not matter if you register you company in africa or ohio the property and the loans are given to and held by a US citizen and company there fore they must follow all security laws. I don't care what you say or what legal type loophole you think you have found, it does not work.

I am not sure if I understanding this, do they own the property or are looking for funding?
vip
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These accusations are getting funny.  Since nothing is working, he's just trying for any dumb thing now.  Maybe one of his three accounts can find some evidence of Branny jaywalking.  That might hurt the share price.  Investors beware!


Ready for something funnier?


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Tri-Plex
1 Studio, 1 2-bed , 1 3-bed
2,700+ square feet
Location : Ohio
Purchase price ฿116 *
Monthly income – ฿1.5 *
Yield – 15.5%/year *
Funding




Quote
Features
2 homes on one lot
1 Duplex + 1 Detached home
 Unit #1 – 3br , Unit #2 – 2br , Unit #3 – 1br
Built in around 1900



Now, pay close attention because I'm about to do something...



Now, tell me what goes through a person's mind that they needed to flip an image of a house to secure funding sans disclosing such facts, just like they never mentioned asbestos or lead paint abatement in their business plan, two major expenses incurred if such is present and renovations are in order, both of which are highly likely.

Here's the Google maps street view:

hero member
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These accusations are getting funny.  Since nothing is working, he's just trying for any dumb thing now.  Maybe one of his three accounts can find some evidence of Branny jaywalking.  That might hurt the share price.  Investors beware!

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The process of renovation has been made available to investors.
vip
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Ben owns an apartment complex, I did him a favor and posted the vacancy on our facebook page.

If you were honest about it and showed the post threading correctly you would have seen that when I posted his contact details, it was in response to a query about his apartment unit being vacant.

As for the addresses - Both of us have registered at some time in the past whois data to a common address (Our parent's house). In most cases the whois data just carried over to new websites because we weren't paying attention to how it propagated. We (RS) have moved to the POB to try and solve any mail mixing issues, but it's never really been any sort of case, except when one guy with half a dozen (or more accounts) starts complaining about it.

As for the website posting - I've hired multiple advertising firms in the past to promote various websites I've owned. Some of them spammed blogs, and in those cases I can't easily recall whatever comments they posted. Be honest about your whois data search, if you did much work you'd find that I've had hundreds of domains registered to myself, using many different combinations of addresses, some of which have overlapped Ben's due to how godaddy uses their whois data.


Did you mean Post Office Box (POB) or Panama Office Box (POB)?

http://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=houses4bitcoin.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=LDrw5kLHCIyo8ncAJ4xiUl6fiKgEn04G8ufwU3MZRuQim3TJwoQF7nsETP3EgNqIIF054CL8cXs%3d

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Domain Name: HOUSES4BITCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1847990312_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-02-24 10:24:17Z
Creation Date: 2014-02-24 18:24:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-02-24 18:24:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 00000
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

http://houses4bitcoin.com/



http://rentalstarter.com/mill-street/pano2/



One more thing. I noticed in your business plan located here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/Public%20release%20for%20RentalStarter.pdf you not once mention asbestos abatement. I'm curious as to how you got around this issue when you replaced the asbestos siding on 129 W. Mill St., Circleville, OH, as shown above. Surely, you didn't do the work yourself and dispose of the siding to a conventional landfill, did you?

I suggest being very, very careful in answering my last question, for I may or may not have already placed a call. Looking forward to your public reply. Once you've done that, I further suggest preparing an answer for when I inquire about your procedures inside the house pertaining to lead paint.

Assuming the following was accomplished in only one day, you're looking at only up to $37,500 per violation as expressed here http://www.nahb.org/generic.aspx?genericContentID=193155&fromGSA=1 for given the age of the home, it's highly unlikely that lead paint wasn't present.

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Brandon.  You asked your brother to bump the price when the price of your "virtual units" (or whatever you call this shit you're peddling) tanked:

...
I had to call my brother to have him put bids in , it seems someone dumped around a thousand shares at whatever the bids were and drove it down to .002 - going forward I need to make sure i have valid bids in on those kinds of scenarios.
...

Your brother, in his own IPO thread (now locked) claimed that he didn't place the bids you asked him to place because "conscious decision."
So if he's not involved in your "business," it ain't for your lack of trying.  Further, you are clearly trying to obfuscate the true ownership of this ...business.  You even brag about your mad obfuscation skillz (unfortunately, tripping over your shoelaces in the process with "HK LTD as a minor stakeholder in the business," lol.):

...The third line of defense is the fact that we're under a LLC, if we get sued *normally* the LLC is only sued and not the owners (me) since our operating agreement only shows the HK LTD as a minor stakeholder in the business. The 4th line would be me in a catastrophic event, 5th line would be the HK LTD. All of these layers of protection are to avoid any connection between a property sitting at XXXXX and you guys. If you TRULY want to start digging up the addresses and who lives there, my concern is that you're all opening yourself up to some liability. ...

You went to a lot of trouble to make everything as convoluted as you could, and, for extra lullz, warned your marks "investors" to let sleeping dogs lie, or "...you're all opening yourself up to some liability."  They ain't your suckers, they'r co-conspirators! Roll Eyes

So stop it with the slighted virgin act.

But wait!  The business your brother has nothing to do with is actually a reboot of your brother's business, done to dupe banks into issuing you credit.  A homemade shelf!  

Quote from: lol, teh locked thread!
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Guess paintball equipment sales is high on the list as well
   FURY PAINTBALL SUPPLY, LTD.   04/24/2003  Changed name to YOUR NEW HOME LLC.  Status ACTIVE:
...

Quote from: Branny on July 13, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
...I made the choice to pay the $50-$75 conversion fee to rename & reorient the company from my brother and I's old paintball LLC to the real estate related one. Because of this on bank documents the entity shows as a 13 year old one and not as a 5 or 1 year entity. ...
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Quote from: Branny on July 13, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
As far a background report, i'm not sure what report you're talking about. My name is on 2 properties I purchased with my brother in 2007...

Finally, if Brothers Schlichter have nothing to hide, why did neither of you acknowledge knowing each other?  Surely having a brother running a reputable offering on the same exchange would bolster investor confidence and help Benny's IPO? 

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Ben owns an apartment complex, I did him a favor and posted the vacancy on our facebook page.

If you were honest about it and showed the post threading correctly you would have seen that when I posted his contact details, it was in response to a query about his apartment unit being vacant.

As for the addresses - Both of us have registered at some time in the past whois data to a common address (Our parent's house). In most cases the whois data just carried over to new websites because we weren't paying attention to how it propagated. We (RS) have moved to the POB to try and solve any mail mixing issues, but it's never really been any sort of case, except when one guy with half a dozen (or more accounts) starts complaining about it.

As for the website posting - I've hired multiple advertising firms in the past to promote various websites I've owned. Some of them spammed blogs, and in those cases I can't easily recall whatever comments they posted. Be honest about your whois data search, if you did much work you'd find that I've had hundreds of domains registered to myself, using many different combinations of addresses, some of which have overlapped Ben's due to how godaddy uses their whois data.
vip
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Ben owns a couple of rentals, outside of that he really isn't involved in real estate.

Art is a 3rd cousin of ours, we have never met him and he does not, nor has ever lived in Circleville (He's from Washington Court House).

I was kind of the one that introduced Ben to Bitcoin, he then in turn introduced me to the funding side of things.

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I have never met Art Schlichter in my life. We share an unfortunate last name, and a very vague relationship (3rd cousin, I believe).

As for the rest of your post(s), I am unsure what it has to do with me. I own one apartment - the one I live in with my wife and child. The vast majority of your post involves my brother. I am not involved in RentalStarter in any capacity.

Otherwise, feel free to dig up whatever you like on me. I am glad to answer whatever questions you have of me...

...but do it before we lock this thread and start a self-moderated one to fend off you trolls, thus allowing us to control the conversation till we, too, get our Brewster Millions, hence locking your sorry asses out.

vip
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Is this 6 or 7 shill accounts?

I'm losing track.

I think you got me mixed up with somebody else. I suggest you get in front of this issue oppose to simply labeling posters as shills.
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Is this 6 or 7 shill accounts?

I'm losing track.
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Why does a successful real estate agent resort to http://urvbhatt.blogspot.com/2008/06/public-ipl-getiplthoughtscheer.html

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FEBRUARY 11, 2010 AT 12:06 AM

And, why do Benny and Banny use the same address?

http://whois.domaintools.com/buyahash.com

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Domain Name: BUYAHASH.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1793196042_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2013-04-11 22:22:40Z
Creation Date: 2013-04-12 06:22:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-04-11 22:22:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: BEN SCHLICHTER
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 19193 GREIST ROAD
Registrant City: STOUTSVILLE
Registrant State/Province: OH
Registrant Postal Code: 43154
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.7404121856
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.5555555555
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:

http://bgp.he.net/dns/thewavesinger.com#_whois

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Domain Name: THEWAVESINGER.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1682337954_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2013-10-07 08:25:40
Creation Date: 2011-10-15 17:02:32
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-10-15 17:02:32
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Brandon Schlichter
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 19193 Greist road
Registrant City: stoutsville
Registrant State/Province: OH
Registrant Postal Code: 43154
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.7405711606
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Brandon Schlichter
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: 19193 Greist road
Admin City: stoutsville
Admin State/Province: OH
Admin Postal Code: 43154
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.7405711606
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]

Here we have two entities seeking millions in funding, but when questions are asked, those asking are considered trolls and treads are locked to be restarted as self-moderated ones.

To top it off, if you visit the below address found on https://buyahash.com/contact-us/ you'll find yourself in a candle shop...

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BuyAHash

106 West Main Street

Circleville, Ohio, 43113

740-601-9922

The candle shop is registered here: http://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=tarascountryhomecandles.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=nNaSKlffF1r0bcchBdoM3QSPpqK0Y4bnRWh3fm0fCEwnlqdNSN2p+T4CX99ZkXPlX2FYVJdxogvQZv23wqrbQw%3d%3d

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Registrant Name: BEN SCHLICHTER
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 19193 GREIST ROAD
Registrant City: STOUTSVILLE
Registrant State/Province: OH
Registrant Postal Code: 43154
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.7404121856

And the phone number above goes to...wait for it...here: https://www.facebook.com/MidOhioRentals/posts/658199324200579



Of which there is no affiliations between buyahash and Rental Starter, both having offices in Hong Kong to conduct honest-to-goodness businesses in Ohio offering up shares to fellow bitcoiners so that everybody can enjoy a piece of the proverbial pie. Hell, the only think missing in this equation is listing them on Havelock which in located in Panama whose claim to fame is Danny Brewster... Oh, wait...
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If Havelock can make a csv file with "date,RENT_price" available I can make a neat chart to analyse USD/BTC vs BTC/RENT.

Here's the chart, using Photoshop and 15 minutes of my time.



Here's how it was made:

1.  Grab Havelock chart (first frame)
2.  Superimpose BTC price chart for the same time period, (thanks Bitcoincharts Smiley) so that dates line up (second frame)
3.  Clean up useless stuff like volume, adjust v-scale, align vertically (third frame)
4.  Invert the BTC price chart, keeping the origin at IPO price (fourth frame)
5.  Orange bands are initial and second public offering--to be ignored since RENT price is locked (fifth and longest frame)*

If RENT price reflected BTC price, the two lines (inverted BTC and RENT) would be identical.


*The problem with the chart (other than Havelock's chart making it look as if the POs ended ~ a week too soon) is, once the irrelevant data is discounted (2 months' worth), there's not enough here to to make a call.  Other than RENT price decoupling from btc price in June Sad



Its a growth stock, so a premium is to be expected.  The USD and RENT prices diverged back in June compared to the rest of the non-PO data, showing that RENT was indeed undervalued during this time, but as of now, is back to a hold.

vip
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^i can post a CSV of [date, price, number_of_shares] if you want, but the candles/volume in my gif give you a better guesstimate.

And here's the two charts combined, with BTC price movement inverted (click for bigger pic):

legendary
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Here is a graph of the RENT price on Havelock:
http://i.imgur.com/IJA96mK.png

Here is the BitstampUSD price of Bitcoin for the same time period:
http://i.imgur.com/pyKpeqK.png

Interesting.  Is it possible to show only the large trades (say, larger than 10 shares) on the rental price chart since a trade of 1 share will show up on the graph as a high/low spike but really doesn't effect the price.
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Here is a graph of the RENT price on Havelock:
http://i.imgur.com/IJA96mK.png

Here is the BitstampUSD price of Bitcoin for the same time period:
http://i.imgur.com/pyKpeqK.png
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