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newbie
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February 17, 2016, 11:22:25 AM
#26

I will remove it now.
You need to not act like that.

In fact seeing as you brought up the subject, the information I posted was researched by myself.

As to giving negative trust for Alt's there is a discussion in other threads about only giving out (negative) for those who have negative from DT (which you do) hence the red paint.

Perhaps you should lock this thread now?

It wasn't researched, you just looked at my trust feedbacks.

LOCKED.
legendary
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I will remove it now.
You need to not act like that.

In fact seeing as you brought up the subject, the information I posted was researched by myself.

As to giving negative trust for Alt's there is a discussion in other threads about only giving out (negative) for those who have negative from DT (which you do) hence the red paint.

Perhaps you should lock this thread now?
newbie
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Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

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KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
Is that your negative feedback?
I think that is KWH's feedback, and I have to deal with KWH alone to work that out.


If you removed your feedbacks on the both of my accounts, which shouldn't be there, I would remove my trust that I placed there.

I've highlighted the word why - the why being that KWH left you negative trust.

You can go first on removing your negative trust like you did for the others.
It's different.
You are untrusted, you are doing this based off something you are not involved in, and you are giving another repetitive feedback off the ones already there.

And in the time you took to write that, as an act of good faith on my part, I have changed the trust to neutral. So, it is you who are refusing to remove negative trust.

Oh dear.
I will remove it now.
You need to not act like that.
legendary
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Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

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KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
Is that your negative feedback?
I think that is KWH's feedback, and I have to deal with KWH alone to work that out.


If you removed your feedbacks on the both of my accounts, which shouldn't be there, I would remove my trust that I placed there.

I've highlighted the word why - the why being that KWH left you negative trust.

You can go first on removing your negative trust like you did for the others.
It's different.
You are untrusted, you are doing this based off something you are not involved in, and you are giving another repetitive feedback off the ones already there.

And in the time you took to write that, as an act of good faith on my part, I have changed the trust to neutral. So, it is you who are refusing to remove negative trust.

Oh dear.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

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KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
Is that your negative feedback?
I think that is KWH's feedback, and I have to deal with KWH alone to work that out.


If you removed your feedbacks on the both of my accounts, which shouldn't be there, I would remove my trust that I placed there.

I've highlighted the word why - the why being that KWH left you negative trust.

You can go first on removing your negative trust like you did for the others.
It's different.
You are untrusted, you are doing this based off something you are not involved in, and you are giving another repetitive feedback off the ones already there.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
💲🏎️💨🚓
Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

Quote
KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
Is that your negative feedback?
I think that is KWH's feedback, and I have to deal with KWH alone to work that out.


If you removed your feedbacks on the both of my accounts, which shouldn't be there, I would remove my trust that I placed there.

I've highlighted the word why - the why being that KWH left you negative trust.

You can go first on removing your negative trust like you did for the others.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

Quote
KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
Is that your negative feedback?
I think that is KWH's feedback, and I have to deal with KWH alone to work that out.


If you removed your feedbacks on the both of my accounts, which shouldn't be there, I would remove my trust that I placed there.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
💲🏎️💨🚓
Oh yeh - just recalled why my feedback was negative...

Quote
KWH 70: -0 / +7   2015-11-19   0.00000000   Reference   Knowingly giving a Rep. Loan. You basically sold your feedback for dust. Congratulations.
legendary
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...and yet for all your bullying about, you haven't removed the negative feedback you left for me...

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Hands out negative feedbacks, for literally no reason, watch out for this guy.

Somebody needs to poke me with a stick when my name gets mentioned in one of these threads...
newbie
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Is it just me or has the mood around bitcointalk darkened since these adjustments to the DT list happened?  I see a lot of sniping--more so than usual, and I realize I'm not one to talk, as I can rip new anuses with the best of them.  I don't know, I could be wrong.  Seems like some of the senior members who usually adopt a neutral tone have gone on the attack.  

I do see that. All is good now, but I see other members (not just Lutpin) on that attack stance first thing.

I think OP realizes his mistake of giving out a rep loan and hopefully he won't do this again.  The question is at what point can these things be forgiven?

At what point can you believe these things to be said as true? Has OP stuck around long enough yet? Creating a new account and abandoning the old is usually not a good sign but thats just my opinion.

The thing is, you cannot really tell.
This is not us being coworkers in cubicles, but strangers running an online community on the net.

I think that I fucked up badly, as you can tell by the sheer amount of work I have had, and still have to do to get my rep cleared.
However, was 4 months ago giving a rep loan w/o understanding the bigger picture worth getting all the negatives four or five months later?

I agree with what you are saying.

I feel like it was right, for in order for me to clear my rep of the previous negatives, major apologizing and talks with the people who gave those negatives were needed.
On the other hand, people not involved should not be throwing more dirt on the pile, doesn't help at all.

I mean, it's really hard to figure this stuff out.
You either have a system that slams down on scammers and the like, and imprisons a few innocents in the system, or you are too lax, and scammers continue to prey on members.



Creating a new account and abandoning the old is usually not a good sign but thats just my opinion.

I understand it isn't a good practice, especially when we are dealing in the business of feedback, but honestly, it's just a pain to log in and out of BTCT accounts.
I have had this account since Nov. I believe.
I can start swapping out each message by a different account if you want Tongue

Thanks, everyone, for listening.
legendary
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I think OP realizes his mistake of giving out a rep loan and hopefully he won't do this again.  The question is at what point can these things be forgiven?

At what point can you believe these things to be said as true? Has OP stuck around long enough yet? Creating a new account and abandoning the old is usually not a good sign but thats just my opinion.
legendary
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Lutpin, take it from me.  If I meant it the way you think I meant it, I would not be afraid to tell you.  I am not playing mind games with you.  I was making a general statement about what I see as a shift in tone in some of the threads that senior members participate in, with this thread being just one of them.  I was not talking about you in particular by any means.  And if you're on DT I have no problem with that, nor Mexxer.
copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
No, I didn't mean it that way.
But it certainly sounded like you did. Sorry, but that might easily be misunderstood in a thread that starts with the sentence
I would like to charge Lutpin with ruining people's trust scores with malicious, erroneous negative trust feedbacks.
You can see where I get that idea from.



What I wrote was just a straight observation and I'm wondering if others see it the same.  I guess it was the SebastianJu thing where he seemed to be getting attacked from all sides in a tone that I don't often see used with trusted members like him. And there were other threads too. But as I said, I could be totally wrong.
Well, I don't agree. That's only my observation though.
legendary
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Is it just me or has the mood around bitcointalk darkened since these adjustments to the DT list happened?
Is it mexxer or me you don't like being on DT?

No, I didn't mean it that way.  I have no problem with Mexxer at all, and in fact I think he does a great job around here.  I'm not as familiar with you, but I don't have a problem with you.  What I wrote was just a straight observation and I'm wondering if others see it the same.  I guess it was the SebastianJu thing where he seemed to be getting attacked from all sides in a tone that I don't often see used with trusted members like him.  And there were other threads too.  But as I said, I could be totally wrong.
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Goodbye, Z.
Is it just me or has the mood around bitcointalk darkened since these adjustments to the DT list happened?
Is it mexxer or me you don't like being on DT?

I think OP realizes his mistake of giving out a rep loan and hopefully he won't do this again. The question is at what point can these things be forgiven?
I'm fairly certain he won't do that again. As for the part of "forgiving":
shorena had left him a negative, and revised it to a neutral. I have done the same, after some discussion.
We both decided to give the guy a second chance (and yes, I know I took longer with that, but that's because the rep loan wasn't the only issue I had).
That's it at the end of the day.
legendary
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Is it just me or has the mood around bitcointalk darkened since these adjustments to the DT list happened?  I see a lot of sniping--more so than usual, and I realize I'm not one to talk, as I can rip new anuses with the best of them.  I don't know, I could be wrong.  Seems like some of the senior members who usually adopt a neutral tone have gone on the attack. 

I think OP realizes his mistake of giving out a rep loan and hopefully he won't do this again.  The question is at what point can these things be forgiven?
newbie
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I will remove one of them then.
I will remove the feedback from your account.
Thus meeting my 2 conditions stated earlier:

I was ready to remove the negatives I gave you (or better said, to change them to a neutral) under 2 conditions:
1) You remove either of the trust points you left MonetaCoin
2) You remove your negative on my account


As shorena already did, I have now changed my ratings on your two accounts to neutral.

Thank you.
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Goodbye, Z.
February 15, 2016, 09:28:45 PM
#9
I will remove one of them then.
I will remove the feedback from your account.
Thus meeting my 2 conditions stated earlier:

I was ready to remove the negatives I gave you (or better said, to change them to a neutral) under 2 conditions:
1) You remove either of the trust points you left MonetaCoin
2) You remove your negative on my account


As shorena already did, I have now changed my ratings on your two accounts to neutral.
sr. member
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February 15, 2016, 09:21:31 PM
#8
It's called being the opposite of lenient: fair.

Deal with it, if you fuck up even a tiny bit on this forum you're done for, however severe. Even just once. By accident. Doesn't matter, some users aren't nice.
newbie
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February 15, 2016, 09:20:24 PM
#7
You did not mention the trust points on Moneta.
You were at fault, as you weren't involved, and I wasn't 100% wrong, where as you were.
And if you removed them both, I would have removed mine.
There's that thing again.
Feedback can't be wrong. Yours can not, neither can be mine.
You can dislike someones opinion, but you can't tell them their opinion is wrong.

I agree with that.

I will remove the feedback from your account.
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