Topic: Reputation System and The Corresponding Abuse - page 2. (Read 1297 times)

You did not mention the trust points on Moneta.
You were at fault, as you weren't involved, and I wasn't 100% wrong, where as you were.
And if you removed them both, I would have removed mine.

How is leaving trust from 2 accounts something you can easily approve of.


You don't get it, do you? It's almost nothing. You were ready to sell out your trust for dust.


You had problems with the trust system back then, you still seem to have problems with it right now.

I was ready to remove the negatives I gave you (or better said, to change them to a neutral) under 2 conditions:
1) You remove either of the trust points you left MonetaCoin
2) You remove your negative on my account
But for you, that was no option, because I had to act first, since

Everything was said. Since you only were coming back again and again appealing me to remove the negative rating, there was no point in exchanging PMs with you.

Yeah, I'm the cancer that kills bitcoin, I got it.

How is leaving positive trust for an escrow service any way the same as giving a rep loan?

You acted before, and still act like 400k sat is a load of money. I was trying to help the guy.

How do I still seem ready to do that? I understood, apologized, and seized responsibility for my actions.
How am I still "ready to do it"?

Also, literally we were talking in PM, you said "you aren't the one commanding it all" while I was trying to have a mutual agreement, you tried to make me remove both of them first, when you were the one in fault.

you were the one in fault.

I was pissed when I got to cryptogames, because you literally act so superior in everything that you do, then you ignore the person once I tried to talk to you in PM.

Honestly, it's people like you that make me want to leave this forum. So many good things, and ideas, marred by people like you and Timelord, who only show the one side that you put together, and charge with negative feedback.

This isn't a court, you don't "charge" someone.

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Quotes from the thread:


And a few posts later, from you:


Yeah, you "didn't see that". I know. You should have known from yourself that what you were doing is wrong.

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Or, what I think is, you wanted to make quick money (0.004BTC in that case), and sold your credibility out for it.
Something I can't approve of, and something you still seem to be ready to do.

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You know what the guy you were willing to trust so easily did later? He tried to run a ponzi.

That was sho, who was willing to remove his negative on you, nice bringing him into this that way.

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We find alts, if those are alts of red trusted members, we mark them accordingly. You were in that moment a red trusted member, hence your alt was marked.

Let's see what I wrote in the other thread about that:

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Which you can find on many other users that leave alot of feedback also. Most of those are retaliation feedbacks, given for revenge after a feedback I had left.
Like the one you left me:

"Maliciously hands out feedback, even when he is not involved."

Most of them glow in red of -4 and deeper, they are sure nice guys to have a coffee with.

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I don't think so, and I after all am in the right to leave feedback as I think its correct.
I told you how we could sort this situation out via PM, you said you don't want to, then I blocked you and you followed me to crypto-games.net
What you pulled off there is on the lowest level. Let me quote the chatlog to you:
You also tried to insult or insulted me on several other occasions.

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To be honest, I was ready to give you a second chance, as shorena already did. I was even willing to overlook the things that had happened and move on.
But that you left trust from both your alts to the account MonetaCoin shows me, that you did in fact learn nothing and have not changed one bit.

"Acted as escrow for my BET investment program. Professional, fast, and a pleasure to work with."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=366279

I would like to charge Lutpin with ruining people's trust scores with malicious, erroneous negative trust feedbacks.

4 months ago, a few days I believe before Thanksgiving, US, I was relatively new to the forums, and I did not understand some concepts about scamming and reputation loans and all of that.
I made the mistake of helping a guy with a reputation loan. Proof : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13009211

Take it from someone who knows.. Lock this thread and keep your nose clean.
Trust is earned, not bought and it can't be forced.
Farming trust and reputation will only end badly, and your best bet is to re-evaluate.

Rep loans are frowned upon here, as ou can see you have been given negative trust
you need collateral and a reason to take a loan

I have received payment for my loan.
5mBTC. Trust has been posted.

I saw the guy around the forums, and wanted to help the guy out with his career.

I have returned, and I started this off, apologizing for my actions, for I wasn't aware of the general use of the reputation loans, to buy trust, and later scam, because of the already-present trust on the account.
Proof:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reputation-and-reputation-loans-1359022

I, instead of being listened to, for apologizing for my actions prior, got slammed with more hate, and one person even went to say that I was "trying to pity" older members.

I, then had a long chat with people on a thread, where my alt (xavTrot6) and the x_Molotov account were marked as being under one owner ( me )
proof : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13869366 and south.

On the x_Molotov account, it says
Lutpin 6: -0 / +4   2016-02-14   0.00000000   Reference   
Knowingly gave out a reputation loan and left positive trust after being repaid. Also fails to see his mistake and insists on having done nothing wrong.

I can see multiple other feedbacks on @lutpin's account, all saying that he gives malicious feedbacks for the sake of ruining people's reputation and boosting other peoples'.

I do not know those people, so I cannot judge if those are correct statements, or if those are scammers, merely mad at the fact that he gave them negative feedback.

I however, know that the feedback on my account is wrong, the Molotov feedback to be taken off, and the mention of xavTrot6 being my alt, reduced to a neutral or removed.
He wouldn't listen to me via PM, and when I confronted him on a chat on a betting site, he had me blocked, then he blocked me on PM.

[...] with sheeple who aren't even involved, following suit, spamming me with negatives.
And the fact that a few people can control the sheeple into spamming negative trusts, [...] when they aren't bloody involved in it.

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However, all the sheeple placing negative trusts on both of my accounts, where they are not involved at all, should not be happening.
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However, the hate just piles up from the sheeple, trying to get in with the higher members, for a pat on the head.
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Alright, I did a little check on you.

#1 gratz on no longer still being a filthy casual.
#2 grow a spine, you just vanished after the negative rating
#3 there are no shortcuts to trust.

a good way to get your rep up, is being honest and doing the right thing.
#4 I will change the rating to neutral, dont make me regret it. This does not mean that others will follow. Dont bother them.
#5 If you want to do trades, do them with the rating you have. Yes, you will get trolled, but those have no interest in trading with you anyway. Those willing to trade with you can use escrow, allow it.