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Nah he's not TECSHARE, I am sure of that there is plenty of evidence. There could be a connection though, maybe a family connection, but fuck it how are we supposed to know it's only speculation at this point, what does it matter really.

Doesn't really matter who the dude is, I think everyone has said everything that needs to be said at this point kinda pointless continuing arguing over it, it's not like WoodCollector is going to suddenly come and say "oh yeah I lied I lasered the shit out of everything" and it's even less likely the nubbins is going to come out and say "oh yeah I fucked up btw and was wrong about everything and take it all back, guy is legit".
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I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings.

If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand.




WOW, and were off topic again. You guys have the attention span of a gnat.

This is the last off topic reply that i am responding to


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If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand.

If i were to do that, then there would not be much else the little kids that are doing the free marketing for me could use as their giant red bulls eye to get attention, then the free marketing would stop. I can only capitalize on that for so long as sooner or later someone else with a high profile is going to make their radar and they are going to go after them instead to fulfill their need for attention. There are a lot more videos then what are publicly posted on this forum at the moment. It is very much for the time being in my best interest to let the kids keep going.  

Scroll back up and see #9
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]Fixed, but why don't you address my concerns that I brought up above?

Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly?

Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here?

Are you TECHSHARE?

Totally my fault i didn't see that reply it seems to have slipped in while i was typing my reply.

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Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly?

The trust system in general is great, the only thing that makes it manageable is the ability to build your own trust networks and not use the default system. It is not the negative trust itself that is benefiting me directly, it is the little kids who keep leaving it and their undying demand to get attention which in doing so is great marketing for me. The problem with the system is there are a lot of people who dont even know that you can make your own trust network and just assume that the default trust list must be right when those who deal in the marketplace know that very often it is not.

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Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here?

You obviously don't have children do you? When little kids get on a tangent, stomping their feet or flailing their arms in the air, you cannot simply walk up to them and say "hey, your acting like an idiot and you look like a fool" Some of the best parenting books on the market will tell you that the absolute best thing you can do to settle a child like that down is to go get a mirror and let them see for themselves how they look when acting like that.

^ that is not an attempt at trolling you in case you were thinking that. You are entitled to your opinions and showed you are a little more respectable then the rest for the crowd by at least fixing the typo for me. The above was a serious and direct answer to your question, no sarcasm intended towards you.

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Are you TECHSHARE?

No, TECSHARE is just a client of mine, although unlike most of my other clients he has pretty thick skin and an ability to tolerate some of the idiots around here so he voices his opinions. I can see how you would think that though, i am willing to bet he has read some of the same parenting books i have as he too seems to be a big fan of the "holding a mirror in front of them" response.
legendary
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I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings.

If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand.

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8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months.
This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business.

If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase.

The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains

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hey thanks, i appreciate that buddy, although the word is "LASER" which is the acronym for l.a.s.e.r which means "light amplified by a stimulated emission of radiation" I greatly appreciate the negative feedback, but would you mind fixing the typo? I might lose credibility if every kid that leaves me negative feedback shows that they are total idiots.
Fixed, but why don't you address my concerns that I brought up above?

Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly?

Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here?

Are you TECHSHARE?
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8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months.
This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business.

If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase.

The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains

Negative feedback left


hey thanks, i appreciate that buddy, although the word is "LASER" which is the acronym for l.a.s.e.r which means "light amplified by a stimulated emission of radiation" I greatly appreciate the negative feedback, but would you mind fixing the typo? I might lose credibility if every kid that leaves me negative feedback shows that they are total idiots.
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I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in.

No, No, you are totally right buddy. The fix for the default trust system is already in place. Most of the members of this forum that matter are smart enough to use their own trust settings. You can edit them yourself and build your own trust network list. It's the Trust settings link on your trust page.

The real problem is that the "default trust" list is the default setting and misleads a lot of new members into getting into the mix of kid games that goes on here. The only thing that really needs to be done is to prompt all new users to either "A" set their own settings or "B" use the predetermined list. A lot of newer members and even some older members who dont partake in buying things on this forum dont even know there is an option to build your own trust network here. Thats the only real problem.

Fake amounts is kind of like a child stomping their feet during a temper tantrum, there is really nothing that can be done about it beyond calling them out after they do it you kind of just have to let them finish their fit first, which is what i did, and CITM was smart enough to step back and re-visit his decision and correct it. I could care less about the feedback itself, he is not on my list so i dont even see it unless i click the show untrusted feedback link.  
Seriously, how do you know so much about the trust system in such a short amount of time? Are you sure you are not TECHSHARE?
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I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in.

No, No, you are totally right buddy. The fix for the default trust system is already in place. Most of the members of this forum that matter are smart enough to use their own trust settings. You can edit them yourself and build your own trust network list. It's the Trust settings link on your trust page.

The real problem is that the "default trust" list is the default setting and misleads a lot of new members into getting into the mix of kid games that goes on here. The only thing that really needs to be done is to prompt all new users to either "A" set their own settings or "B" use the predetermined list. A lot of newer members and even some older members who dont partake in buying things on this forum dont even know there is an option to build your own trust network here. Thats the only real problem.

Fake amounts is kind of like a child stomping their feet during a temper tantrum, there is really nothing that can be done about it beyond calling them out after they do it you kind of just have to let them finish their fit first, which is what i did, and CITM was smart enough to step back and re-visit his decision and correct it. I could care less about the feedback itself, he is not on my list so i dont even see it unless i click the show untrusted feedback link.  
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8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months.
This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business.

If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase.

The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains

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I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in.
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so funny that when I call you out on things that matter like you saying my coin artwork is copied OR that you are a coward because you choose to keep your identity hidden...YOU SAY NOTHING.

As soon as I make a snide comment because this is just a clown thread you take that as if it is the only substance I have put out on this forum concerning you and your shady actions.

LOL @ the guy who didn't have the respect to approach me and ask me if my artwork was original or not...given I did that with you to see if your work was lasered or not.

Sure enough you have proven nothing to support your claims.

Just like every other pathetic/lazy scammer out there....make claims you can't back up with irrefutable proof.

 Grin Grin Grin


Lets first cover the FACTS, then get this back on topic since this is the "CITM is abusing the trust system thread" not the "smoothie and friends want to have another temper tantrum to feel good about themselves thread"

1: There are all but maybe 6 or 7 people still whipping your dead horse. Maybe 8 or 9. Of that i am 100% certian that about 30% of those "people" are alts of your own band of idiots.

2: There are on any given day over a thousand active members on this forum

Which means that

3: you and your very tiny band of whipper snappers constitute less than 1% of people on this forum.

which further brings me to....

4: you and your little degenerate band of kids are the MINORITY on this forum.

I know this because

5: at least twice a day i get a P.M. from someone on this forum telling me about your little kids society and how you maintain to act in the very same fashion you are yet today, and that you idiots will attack any high profile body on this forum. Its the only reason your here, they were kind enough to point out all of your post history's as evidence that not one of you provide anything useful here.

Which brings me to....

6: some of the communities most prestigious members are now making their way onto my client roster

Because

7: Ever since day 1, this whole charade started by nubbins then followed up by the usual suspects has been nothing more than 1 huge publicity campaign for me that i could have never even thought of on my own. I started as a pretty much anonymous virtual identity on BCT and thanks to the efforts of you, BG4, CITM, Nubbins, Jonald, and the rest of your degenerate clan. Today. I'M F#@KING FAMOUS and all over the web with my anonymous identity people who would have never found me in the bitcoin market have been lead right to me and its all thanks to you.

Here's just one message of 7 i received today.

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That gold leaf on the dark wood sure does look nice.  I don't know a thing about wood carving, but one thing is pretty clear.  You're making the nicest looking wood carved products on the forum.

Straight from the mouth of a guy who one of the highest trusted members on this forum.

Moving on to a message i got last weekend

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Awesome job man, looking at your feedback page its like a who's who of immature children on this forum and you have managed to make them all look like morons. I'm a novice wood worker myself and would love to chat some time maybe get a few pointers from you. How much would you charge me to make a new set of handles for my chisel set out of something like purpleheart? That one from your video turned out beautiful.

Keep them going, if they had not carried their antics over to reddit i would have never even known you were in the community. I stopped using this forum almost 6 months ago

which starts to bring this to a close...

8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks then i could have done on my own in 3 months.

that leads us to the ONLY thing all of you have been right about so far......

9: for about the past 5 days now, i fully admit i am 100% guilty of trolling all of you into acting out like the kiddies you are. Some of my recent clients pointed out that if it was not for all of your infantile charades they themselves would have never found what i have to offer or ever new i was part of the bitcoin community as i had no idea how much of a community there was outside this forum and never would have thought to market myself in those other places as i didn't even know they existed. Those same new clients also pointed out that besides doing it for laughs (which i have gotten a lot of lately, i mean come on "wet chocolate"? hahahahaha) spending an hour or so a day antagonizing you and your fellow group of kids here on the forum was the easiest and best free marketing i could get in the community because although there are only a few of you, you all make a lot of noise all across bitcoin websites because it is by default your nature to seek out attention. That leads clients right to me, and anyone with a brain can take a look back through the circus act and see that i am 100% the man i say i am which leads to a sale.

And finally....

10: back on topic since only a few bodies seem to be able to read that have posted on the past 5 pages. This thread is about CITM's abuse of the feedback system. It had absolutely nothing to do with wood carving, wood, tools, wet chocolate, shapes, or species of wood. CITM has clearly shown on several occasions that he has a poor sense of judgment, and many times has abused the trust rating system, not saying he never saved anyone from getting ripped off or has not done a few really good things with his position, but his ratio of abuse to proper use is getting worse every day. If anything, this thread is another wakeup call for CITM. I could honestly give a shit if he is removed from the list, i know 100% for fact that i accomplished exactly what i set out to do with this thread as CITM stepped back, thought twice about his actions, then fixed them you will now notice he edited his feedback not to include the false 1,000 amount. My only goal was to open his eyes and maybe get him back on track like he use to be, and i feel i accomplished that. Truth is, the members who matter on this forum, we all set our own trust settings so we have a descent network of trust that does not get over run with garbage.

Now, please feel free to carry on with your off topic rants about chocolate and wood and tools and whatever else. Although it was a giant headache in the beginning, this dog and pony show that nubbins started has been one of the best things that could have happened to me in the bitcoin space, it increased sales, increased visibility, and it only cost me a few days worth of time which were made up for by selling the things i made in those days. Now not only am i famous in the real world, i have a famous bitcoin identity too.

Edit: i'll be back to stir the pot again tomorrow some time. Take your pop shots in the mean time if you must. While your at it, link your wittiest reply to the above on reddit, shout it out on your twitter and social media accounts, be sure it finds its way to CCT and LTBTC too.

Thanks for the free marketing  Grin Sad part is if you were not all children about it, i might have actually paid you for your services.

One more edit:
I sat back and had a laugh to myself and figured i would share it with all of you who are just following along for the laughs. The best part of it all is these guys dont even realize that nobody on this forum or in bitcoin in general takes them seriously or really even pays attention to them any more and they still spend hundreds of hours online fighting for that attention. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH  Grin You cant even script comedy that good.
legendary
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What types of two words can we come up with to have an alternative meaning to WC?

Wet Chocolate

lol

OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy.

So funny that when I call you out on things that matter like you saying my coin artwork is copied OR that you are a coward because you choose to keep your identity hidden...YOU SAY NOTHING.

As soon as I make a snide comment because this is just a clown thread you take that as if it is the only substance I have put out on this forum concerning you and your shady actions.

LOL @ the guy who didn't have the respect to approach me and ask me if my artwork was original or not...given I did that with you to see if your work was lasered or not.

Sure enough you have proven nothing to support your claims.

Just like every other pathetic/lazy scammer out there....make claims you can't back up with irrefutable proof.

 Grin Grin Grin
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OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy.

Says the guy who talk to trees. Roll Eyes
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What types of two words can we come up with to have an alternative meaning to WC?

Wet Chocolate

lol

OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy.
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You want theymos to moderate the trust system? LOL.

The reason fake amounts of Bitcoin were used was far from the reason others have been removed from the default trust network. They were removed for abusing their "power" of being in the default trust network.

CITM needs to prune his trust list to include less people with zero experience detecting scams. However he should not be removed because he gave feedback to someone who he thinks is a scammer.

Your right, he should be removed for leaving a false amount on feedback for a transaction that never happened which is an abuse of power. But you'll never see that as you stand to lose rating on some of your alts if that happens. Thanks for your 2 satoshis, but you have already lost all credibility in my book. This is theymos's decision. He can either fix the system, moderate the system, or remove the system. or continue to be bombarded by requests and garbage every time someone in a position of power abuses it. If not just on principal alone, it behooves him to fix the problem to avoid his own frustration and wasted time.

It's rare that people do abuse it, but usually when they do they get removed like your buddy tecshare so it can and does happen. Canary should remove the value in my opinion and if he doesn't maybe he will be removed.

You think that I have lost my credibility because my opinion is different then yours? Saying things like that is a very quick way to lose credibility yourself.

He's already lost any credibility he had so it isn't possible for him to lose any more.
legendary
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I'd rather expect people like joehoe, DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes be added to DefaultTrust, who are actually respected by the community and does not fight to hold their seat.

Danny and Deathandtaxes only have DefaultTrust in their trust list, wouldn't be much point in adding them. It would just be a symbolic gesture.
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How can you carve a masterpiece wood carving and video tape it when your falling out of you lounge chair...... We are still waiting for the Video of the grand master woodcollector's fine detail work......

Every thread you Open ..no matter what the topic is..... It will always be about you trying to scam... So here I am ..... ..To catch you in the Act ....again.....  with more of your Bull Shit..... ... .. .

It gets better with every post, never on topic and always like a 5 year old stomping their feet in a tantrum. More BG4 More !!!!!!
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe

Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer..

 Kiss

I almost fell out of my chair when i read that. Absolutely hilarious. You kids will walk out on any limb put before you to try and argue your moot points. This thread is about CITM and his abuse of the trust system. Nothing to do with the overall abuse of the trust system that takes palce every day.

Keep going man, i might have to grab a bowl of popcorn myself this is getting better than the real world on MTV.


How can you carve a masterpiece wood carving and video tape it when your falling out of you lounge chair...... We are still waiting for the Video of the grand master woodcollector's fine detail work......

Every thread you Open ..no matter what the topic is..... It will always be about you trying to scam... So here I am ..... ..To catch you in the Act ....again.....  with more of your Bull Shit..... ... .. .
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Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer..

 Kiss

I almost fell out of my chair when i read that. Absolutely hilarious. You kids will walk out on any limb put before you to try and argue your moot points. This thread is about CITM and his abuse of the trust system. Nothing to do with the overall abuse of the trust system that takes palce every day.

Keep going man, i might have to grab a bowl of popcorn myself this is getting better than the real world on MTV.
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Another +1. Very well put. I dont know joehoe, but i agree totally about danny and deathandtaxes
No offense buddy, but from the looks of it, you have the knowledge about the forum that vastly exceeds that of someone who has only been here a few months. This is especially true considering that you recently were posting multiple threads in the reputation section that happens to be against the rules.

Are you sure that someone didn't buy your account from you? Maybe someone with a ulterior motive? Your writing style does seem to have changed.

Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer.
No I did see that, and that is what is so confusing. As it stands right now, there is no way he will be able to rebuild his reputation. Even if he were to prove beyond any doubt that he is in fact carving his art by hand and at the level of detail of his previous pieces no one would want to work with him because of his complete lack of maturity.

I do not see him gaining anything  by successfully being able to replace the trust system we currently have in place nor  by removing CanaryInTheMine (although he could come back and pull off some other scam in the future). This leads me to believe that someone purchased his account in order to push his goal of removing the trust system. There is one person in particular who has been particularly vocal about wanting this.
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