[Request to mod/admin] Can I create a topic on "other language"?

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Quote from: Little Mouse on December 28, 2021, 07:44:12 AM

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While I have been waiting for this, I have already gathered some information and started organizing the thread contents. I really hope that I will be allowed to do so. Please, someone?

Unfortunately, I don't think that this will be approved. here many local communities asked to get their dedicated board but no one got it.
Just imagine if you would get permission to open another Bengali topic, surely others would ask.

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While I have been waiting for this, I have already gathered some information and started organizing the thread contents. I really hope that I will be allowed to do so. Please, someone?

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 05, 2021, 04:30:19 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on December 05, 2021, 03:46:28 AM

You might be able to make the same argument for opening a thread for many other languages in the 'other languages' sub, and allowing for two (or more) threads per language would only clutter that sub in a confusing way. I think it is unlikely you will be banned for opening a single duplicate thread, however i think there is a good chance it would get removed.

I don't think the "clutter" is so bad: Other languages/locations still shows topics that were last active in April. The entire board isn't very active, and the main threads are pinned already.

If you potentially have two (or more) threads per language, you are potentially doubling the number of threads (or worse). This might cause a non-stickied thread to go from being on the 1st page to now being on the 3rd page.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on December 05, 2021, 03:46:28 AM

You might be able to make the same argument for opening a thread for many other languages in the 'other languages' sub, and allowing for two (or more) threads per language would only clutter that sub in a confusing way. I think it is unlikely you will be banned for opening a single duplicate thread, however i think there is a good chance it would get removed.

I don't think the "clutter" is so bad: Other languages/locations still shows topics that were last active in April. The entire board isn't very active, and the main threads are pinned already.

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I think that you should discuss this with theymos directly. PM him, explain your reasons for wanting to do that, and ask him if you are allowed to do it. Theymos might not respond to PMs that he feels aren't that important, but when it's about the forum or security issues, bugs, etc., he will probably get back to you.

Alternatively, check with a global moderator like hilariousandco or mprep.
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Quote from: The Cryptovator on December 01, 2021, 10:22:35 PM

I am curious where had you found the rules that users will be ban posting threads out of the local board?

That's a direct quote from the stickied thread in the other languages board.

There are dozens of threads stickied in the other languages sub, and the thread stickied is at the bottom (a non-conventional location). When I first read this thread, I had trouble finding the thread with that rule.

Quote from: Little Mouse on December 01, 2021, 10:04:58 AM

Thank you PrimeNumber7 for pointing out some true facts. Bengali should be given a dedicated board.

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on December 01, 2021, 08:44:36 AM

but I suspect it is at least influenced by their inability to create threads to discuss specific topics in their local language.

This is the most important reason why people don't discuss in the local thread. It's very hard to discuss things in a single thread. You don't know what has been discussed or shared, you can't find a piece of specific information because there are hundreds of pages to check out.

These are all compelling reasons why a new thread with important/useful information being in a central location should be allowed.

I don't think you will be given permission to open a new thread though. As I mentioned previously, I think it would be better to create a new dedicated sub for your location. The cost of doing so would be trivial, and there would be tangible benefits.

You might be able to make the same argument for opening a thread for many other languages in the 'other languages' sub, and allowing for two (or more) threads per language would only clutter that sub in a confusing way. I think it is unlikely you will be banned for opening a single duplicate thread, however i think there is a good chance it would get removed.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on December 01, 2021, 11:12:50 AM

I appreciate what you are actually trying to do but even if you collect all the post which have some information for newbie and post it on B&H or in other English section people still not going to understand it right so great effort will become completely useless.

No, if it happens to collect the post and combined them according his arrangements or setup without no addition and also reference it to the original posters it's not going to be useless, because the post is going to be translated with English language first before coming to English board like beginner's and help or other boards that suits to the topic, i think people do obtain permission from people that create a meaningful thread and translate a educational thread that created by another user to their local board. So from my perspective i have not seen atoms that will make it useless.

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To create barriers and restrict bounty hunters to create many localized ANN threads from altcoin projects, forum has this rule in Do not create threads or post translated ICO Announcements in here

It was applied since December 2017 because of massive spam from ICOs and bounty hunters. I am not aware that it has been changed so far.

Consequently, if you don't have a local board, but only have a local thread, it is a bit inconvenient without categories for your local community. Anyway, you have to accept it & obey rules before your community can have a local board.

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 02, 2021, 12:57:10 PM

Allow me to counter that with another quote:

Quote from: বাংলাদেশ (Bangladesh)

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

Thanks. It's not exactly what my purpose is. You are right but I have no major issue with the current thread as I said but maybe someday in the future, thread moderator may delete someone's reply.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on December 03, 2021, 12:48:42 PM

However, a statement from a moderator would help OP.

Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for. I will try to PM if I don't get a reply kin few days.

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 02, 2021, 12:57:10 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on December 01, 2021, 08:00:38 AM

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If you post threads outside of your own local thread you will be banned.

Allow me to counter that with another quote:

Quote from: বাংলাদেশ (Bangladesh)

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

C'mon LoyceV, You made my day, lol. Both statements conflict with each other.

I do not support banning accounts to create a new thread in the local language. It's quite impossible to discuss everything in a thread that is self-moderating as well. I know it's hard to detect something from a new thread if someone abusing forum rules, but shouldn't prevent someone who wants to contribute to the forum.

However, a statement from a moderator would help OP.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on December 01, 2021, 08:00:38 AM

Request to mod/admin- Please allow me to create a thread.

I also think Bangladesh thread needs an active mod. There are always more offtopic / lowquality posts. But the moderator does not report it. He is not Bangladesh thread active. He is not active in the forum. Bangladesh thread needs an active mod member to avoid spam and maintain beauty.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on December 02, 2021, 11:29:17 AM

I don't want to create another thread for Bangladeshi users but I want to create a thread that will contain all the important articles, important links, directory, etc on cryptocurrency and also on forum issues (in the Bengali language) so that new Bengali users can have all in one place. I will ask BitcoinDream (our local thread moderator) to link my thread so that everyone can get the link easily.

You seem to be right. It should be done. But BitcoinDream will do it. He is not active in Bangladesh thread. I PM him to add an important topic on the first page. I don't see any active. I have applied to him later. I do not see any active part of it.
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Quote from: Little Mouse on December 01, 2021, 08:00:38 AM

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If you post threads outside of your own local thread you will be banned.

Allow me to counter that with another quote:

Quote from: বাংলাদেশ (Bangladesh)

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 02, 2021, 11:37:58 AM

This can be done in the local thread and you ask the OP edit the link into the first post, so everyone would be able to locate it even if it gets buried under other replies.
Other local thread members could have ideas similar they would want to post but that would just make the board a bit clunky and difficult to navigate.

Or you could wait for a direct reply from a mod.

Our local thread is a self-moderated thread and can be censored though I believe it will not be. The thread moderator has the right to delete the post anytime. The purpose is to create a thread, organize it in a good shape with resources available in Bengali. I will be waiting for a reply from the admin or mod before creating a thread. I don't want to get banned Cheesy

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Quote from: Little Mouse on December 02, 2021, 11:29:17 AM

This can be done in the local thread and you ask the OP edit the link into the first post, so everyone would be able to locate it even if it gets buried under other replies.
Other local thread members could have ideas similar they would want to post but that would just make the board a bit clunky and difficult to navigate.

Or you could wait for a direct reply from a mod.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 02, 2021, 12:09:30 AM

I would say you have an argument to be allowed to create your own thread, the forum allows one who does not wish to be moderated by a fellow member to create their own thread, and that should apply to local threads as well. But it would be best for the Bangladesh community to come together and discuss on these issues so different threads do not start springing up, while it waits for a local board.

I don't want to create another thread for Bangladeshi users but I want to create a thread that will contain all the important articles, important links, directory, etc on cryptocurrency and also on forum issues (in the Bengali language) so that new Bengali users can have all in one place. I will ask BitcoinDream (our local thread moderator) to link my thread so that everyone can get the link easily.

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This is excellent Idea . If this happens we bangladeshi user's can create self maid topic of our own.
In Bangladesh forum lot of posts are made in one day so which posts are valuable for us they got disappear in lists of new posts.
Also a articale writer can't write anything about important and made them marge as a informative post. It would be very helpful if admins/Mod take this in serious.😇

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on December 01, 2021, 10:22:35 PM

I am curious where had you found the rules that users will be ban posting threads out of the local board?

That's a direct quote from the stickied thread in the other languages board. Op couldn't quote it directly because that thread is locked now. And the rule is for languages that already have a dedicated thread on that board to prevent spam, all posts in that language should be made in that thread. I am not sure if this rule is strictly followed.

Quote from: Little Mouse on December 01, 2021, 08:00:38 AM

I would say you have an argument to be allowed to create your own thread, the forum allows one who does not wish to be moderated by a fellow member to create their own thread, and that should apply to local threads as well. But it would be best for the Bangladesh community to come together and discuss on these issues so different threads do not start springing up, while it waits for a local board.

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I am curious where had you found the rules that users will be ban posting threads out of the local board? I noticed multiple threads have been created by mdayonliner previously in other languages sections. And mdayonliner has discussed into meta about his threads there. Although I can't recall the threads but as far as I remember he was inspired to do so and no one prevents him to create a thread as long as it's helpful for the forum. Still, I found a couple of threads (locked & unlocked) exist that were created by mdayonliner in Bangla. Since his account hasn't been banned, I don't think your account will ban for contribution since your intention isn't spamming there.

But again, since it's an account ban question, just make sure with forum moderators. It doesn't matter what we think, moderators will follow their moderation policy. So just wait for a moderator reply.

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I appreciate what you are actually trying to do but even if you collect all the post which have some information for newbie and post it on B&H or in other English section people still not going to understand it right so great effort will become completely useless. Maybe you can translate them and compile them in other board which is also allowed as per the forum rules and it won't fall under the plagiarism as well when you give credits to the respective authors.

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Thank you PrimeNumber7 for pointing out some true facts. Bengali should be given a dedicated board.

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on December 01, 2021, 08:44:36 AM

but I suspect it is at least influenced by their inability to create threads to discuss specific topics in their local language.

This is the most important reason why people don't discuss in the local thread. It's very hard to discuss things in a single thread. You don't know what has been discussed or shared, you can't find a piece of specific information because there are hundreds of pages to check out.
Anyway, I would like to keep the discussion on the topic. I think we are going a little bit off-topic.

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I think there is probably a strong argument that there should be a dedicated local sub for Bangladesh/Bengali. It seems like there are bursts of posts that can sometimes result in more than 20 posts being made in a single day, but also there are times when several days go without a post.

The Bangladesh local language thread has more posts than the Hebrew sub has, and it rivals the number of posts in the Scandinavian sub. I looked through the last couple of pages of the Bangladesh thread, and recognized multiple people from my reading of English threads. This means there are people in the Bangladesh community making posts in English rather than their local language. There are probably multiple reasons for this, but I suspect it is at least influenced by their inability to create threads to discuss specific topics in their local language.

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I have the privileges but as according to the rules, it's not allowed or I'm not sure if it is

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If you post threads outside of your own local thread you will be banned.

Reason for a thread-
I would like to collect all the resources available in my local language (Bengali) and organise them so that newbies can get them perfectly presented and can get the benefit.
I can create such a collection post on the existing local thread but that thread is self moderated and my post can be deleted anytime (though I believe BitcoinDream will not delete, just the possibility).
As the above quoted rule was specially set for spammers, can I get exception? I would like to create a thread and update the thread regularly with valuable resources in Bengali.
Request to mod/admin- Please allow me to create a thread.

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