Topic: Requesting DT to take a look at Siigari (defrauding investors) (Read 442 times)

I had already given up, there's no arguing against ignorance.

That's a nice introduction to the concept of a house edge and chance

That's what all gamblers believe, and it's what makes them lose everything. Any "strategy" works, until it busts.

Not a word about me huh buddy.
You've been an absolute ass towards me, rejected every simple fact that I had laid out to you as to a child.
I literally spoonfed you because your logic was broken and I wanted to help you and you took everything I said as a personal attack or as if I wanted to get something out of you instead.

The absolute delusion, pride and stupidity that takes the better of gamblers is hilarious mate.
You lost more than yours and peoples money. You lost your mind.

I made you a smilulator to speed-test, you could've verified it all.

Let me lay out the facts once again:

- The house edge is not relevant in the way an earlier reply stated.
  Every game takes an equally (lesser) random part of an absolutely random SHA256 hash.
  This makes the probability to a bust which is absolutely the same for every separate game and there is no relationship between past games.
  "Skipping" is retarded.

- Generating a (wager) curve from a "magic constant" creates a curve that will not line up with the requirement to recover your sum of losses.
  You will spend too little or too large.

- Your script, is in fact, EV+ if you get the wagers correct, to recover or +1, for every recovery cycle.
   However that's not a selling point nor proves survivability because your hard boundaries are your
    - Bankroll
    - table limit or max profit

Here's another piece of advise. Fire your "personal financial advisor" and "statistician".
You're giving a few people their losses back but not a word nor a cent nor a "thank you" to me, for anything I've given you.

I tried to teach him basic casino EV. He's a smart man. It all went over his head. Hanlon's razor was my initial assumption, but after learning that David clearly isn't stupid, the only remaining conclusion is this was all a fraud attempt. Hell, if he actually thought it was +EV, the script would be back on tomorrow. It won't be.

Thanks man, I'll have a read.

Take this opportunity to learn some statistics: I think it would help you greatly in your life. If you truly believe that your strategy would have been positive in the long run then it is merely a case of Hanlon's razor.

Here, maybe this module will help: Mean (expected value) of a discrete random variable

My nephew tells me that Sal is a pretty good teacher. If he can explain it to a child, anyone can learn.

lol, 'threaten legal action'? So, after you defraud people, people who... you know, report you for fraud... those are the ones who get scammed?

None of this is my business, but since you want to spread false allegations about me and my server, I guess I'll take a more personal interest and will try to help out the people who got scammed. I'll help them file the relevant police reports etc. I've been spending the last 30 minutes banning people who were spamming your wife's photos, and I come to see this shit. God damn, the nerve on people.

Good thing you busted. Leave and never come back. Try to pay everyone back without the law having to make you. It's the easiest route.

Before you posted this, I made an announcement that anyone that was not involved in high level toxicity, threatened legal action and/or doxxing would be repaid.



I have approached these four individuals stating I would like to repay them, despite them understanding there was the opportunity to lose all of their bits.

Your inability to recognize that has caused me to report your discord server to Discord Trust & Safety, and I have reported you personally.

I am closing my program now, and this was the last straw for me at an attempt to gamble, even though I believe in the long run I could make it out positive. Some others crashed as well, and I don't want that to be me again in the future.

But hey, I'll still be around here to discuss all things bitcoin as always

Thanks everyone for your support.

PS: Discord can read deleted messages.

Let it be known that you would have had to keep your winning streak from before the sudden loss for 16 times as long in order to recoup the losses.

You're looking at over 116000 games, and that's not even considering the part where you're statistically losing every single bet.
With the 1% house edge, this is the result you're looking at: E(X)¹¹⁶⁰⁰⁰ = 4×10^-507

Your name (David Pietz) is in your Bitcointalk thread (which you posted as KYC for some reason). I've shared nothing beyond that or what was already made public. Sadly I've had to ban a bunch of people from my bustabit server who have taken the doxxing too far. They are all extremely mad that someone tried stealing money from us. I get their sentiment, but personal info is personal info. Zero tolerance for that kind of stuff.

You should probably refund the people you defrauded though. I heard one of them is looking to take action. Also, just a reminder, bustabit is illegal in most US states.

While sad it did bust in the short term, this is no excuse for the high level of personal information harvesting and doxxing that Stack has involved himself with for the past hour or so, and shared on his discord.

This is absolutely abhorrent, especially considering I cashed him out. Despicable actions from someone when I stated high and low that there was risks involved with this.

Empirical proof was not necessary to see that the mathematical certainty of a house edge results in a long-term loss.

Anyone that tells you that you can run a script or some strategy to transform a -ev bet into a +ev bet is lying. Probabilities do not change simply because you bet here or there in different ways: with every single bet, there is a statistical loss, period.

Holy shit, this was a fantastic proof of your math, stackgambler.  Glad we didn't have to wait months for the proof.  Sad about frenchbull and allgasnobrakes tho.

As if by divine intervention, a few minutes ago, Yisserati's "+EV script" busted after bustabit broke the record for the longest streak of games without a 12x, as was expected.

It's probably the most poetic moment I've been blessed enough to witness.



The math always evens out in the end.

Your math is already wrong, as I proved several times above. I even tried to help you with the code. Horse to water, sadly.

You can block me on here if you wish, or click the little X tab in the corner of your browser. I'll continue to warn people about scammers on bustabit as I've been doing for a long time.

I'd highly recommend you stop defrauding people from my community. Immediately.

I have run the code, you are angry that I declined your bet. I have run simulations and looked at the facts of bustabit and done my own homework over a three week period now. I would not have put 0.025+ of my own BTC in this if I didn't have the numbers straight first.

You have to, and now you want to prove me incorrect despite even your own math showing you that I can make a profit, reset bets and then lose a little before continuing.

Really man, I'm not the one with a problem here. Everything I have said in this thread aligns perfectly with everything I have said in my thread, and I am not going to deviate away from it because the math shows true. That's why there's nothing left for me to explain here, except that *I HOPE* it does not bust in the short term, and we reach the profits I have advertised. I even state that in my Discord before people invest! There is a chance for my method to be knocked out before making it, and I alert people to the fact that this is has risk involved!

Will you PLEASE stop harassing me now?

The '6 months' was your claim...

Seriously, stop replying in 5 seconds. Download the code. Run it, understand it. Think for a little bit. I want you to see your delusion. I know it's unlikely, but deep down I'm hoping you're not a scammer and that you're some misguided soul.

That's using your math, dude.

What are you talking about? First it was 5.5, now it's 15 all of a sudden? First it was 55,000, now you agree with my 950,000?

Take a long look in the mirror. You're a gambling addict using unsound math to justify your delusion, and you're defrauding other people in the process.

Here, I'll help you out. Making sims is easy. I'm sure you can plug in your own script numbers and reach the same conclusions I'm coming to.


This will, in under 5 minutes, tell you how many games it takes to bust you (135 games under 12x) over 10,000 game chains. Hey, if it takes you 8 months to bust, and you are expected to double up every 6 months, then yes, your script would be +EV - but I highly doubt you're not fucking up the numbers again, as you've done every step of the way thus far...

I just wanted you to do the math for yourself. If it takes me approx. 950,000 games to reach a 135 streak on average as you say, and I can return 15 (the middle between 25 and 5) then let's shoot for that, and I'll show you that in less than 6 months I can more than double my initial investment.

Pretty neat, huh? If you calculate it your way as you did above, with (1-(0.99/12))^135, it's actually closer to 1 in 1.5 million games (0.0000089), as I previously suggested.

Wrong. There is no such thing as 'your math' or 'my math'. There is math. Period. Yours is just incorrect. It's made up.

You're defrauding people by claiming a -EV method is +EV.

I'll do what's in my power to warn people. If I know you're scamming people, have the power to save a few people, and choose not to, then that makes me just as bad as you.