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Topic: Residential Hobbyist Miners: power concerns? - page 3. (Read 3870 times)

newbie
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Hello Folks,

Think this discussion should be divided in different regional Areas, cause the Standard power supply settings around the world are significant different in this world (e.g. Europe for a 1L/N/PE circuit at home is 230V 16A which results in 3.6 kW on one circuit, USA same Standard type rates 1L/N/PE 110V 15A results in 1.6 kW on one circuit).

For Europe / Germany:

3L/N/PE with 230V on every L is Standard System for suppling homes.

So if you misuse the cricuit from your oven for example or build up a second oven cricuit (3L/N/PE) 10 kW on one cricuit is no Problem with just having one cable with 5 wires to install, which makes 10 kW. Needed components are sold in every Hardware store. If you build up a cricuit or misuse a cricuit that was installed for a flow type calorifier even 20 kW are possible (3L/N/PE 32A), but here you have to use a bigger cable (4mm² (on wall) or 6mm² (Sub wall)) and a 3x32A cricuit braker, which both may not be aviable at every little hardware store. Also you really should be familiar with electric installation rules (e.g. in Germany given by the VDE) to do a installation like this, especially cause you should not use the Standard 16A (SchuKo) plugs to connect to that kind of power supply unless you build up a subdistribution in the room where you set up the rigs, which splits the 3L/N/PE 32A supply in 6 cricuits with 1L/N/PE 16A specification.

In other countries with lower voltage or other supply Systems things may get more complicated.

Same for the cooling issue, in cold regions you may even have no Problems when installing in the Basement or in the Garage, because ist f**cking cold there anyway, even during summertime. In other places you need to install a climatisation which at least brings cooling power of 2 times the power consumtion of your rigs. Which means this clima System should be expected to use half as much electrical power as your rigs consume. If I would have mining hardware that consumes power in regions of 10 kW I'd seek for a cooling solution, that reuses the thermal energy from the rigs for the heating System and/or the hot water supply or even to produce electrical energy.

Happy discussion





  
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Run a dedicated circuit and make it a 240V 30A.  Use a NEMA L6-30 outlet as most PDUs use that style plug.   It is good for 80%*240*30 = 5.76 KW.

I'd imagine that's a pretty significant expenditure to get installed.  I'm not an electrician, so maybe it's not a big deal to have something like that installed in my home.  Got a ballpark figure on something like that?

I don't know.  I did it myself.  It costs me maybe $60 in parts (I put in two outlets and two breakers at the same time) and an hour of work.   A lot depends on where the outlet will be relative to your breaker panel.  You mentioned having rigs in the basement.  If your breaker panel is in the basement, you have room for a new double pole breaker and you don't mind a surface mount box and surface mount wiring it will be a lot cheaper than if an electrician needs to juggle around breakers, put in a sub panel, run some wiring half way through the house inside the walls and through floors, etc.


Oh, that's not too bad.  Unfortunately, my breaker panel is in my garage, and I'm pretty sure I'd hear some interesting complaints from the little lady trying to convince her to just ignore those wires running through the house Smiley

I'd love to throw everything in the garage, but it isn't temperature controlled, so the upcoming summer heat would not be very friendly to a server rack out there.  Would be fantastic in the winter, though!
donator
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Gerald Davis
Run a dedicated circuit and make it a 240V 30A.  Use a NEMA L6-30 outlet as most PDUs use that style plug.   It is good for 80%*240*30 = 5.76 KW.

I'd imagine that's a pretty significant expenditure to get installed.  I'm not an electrician, so maybe it's not a big deal to have something like that installed in my home.  Got a ballpark figure on something like that?

I don't know.  I did it myself.  It costs me maybe $60 in parts (I put in two outlets and two breakers at the same time) and an hour of work.   A lot depends on where the outlet will be relative to your breaker panel.  You mentioned having rigs in the basement.  If your breaker panel is in the basement, you have room for a new double pole breaker and you don't mind a surface mount box and surface mount wiring it will be a lot cheaper than if an electrician needs to juggle around breakers, put in a sub panel, run some wiring half way through the house inside the walls and through floors, etc.
legendary
Activity: 1344
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Run a dedicated circuit and make it a 240V 30A.  Use a NEMA L6-30 outlet as most PDUs use that style plug.   It is good for 80%*240*30 = 5.76 KW.

I'd imagine that's a pretty significant expenditure to get installed.  I'm not an electrician, so maybe it's not a big deal to have something like that installed in my home.  Got a ballpark figure on something like that?
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
Run a dedicated circuit and make it a 240V 30A.  Use a NEMA L6-30 outlet as most PDUs use that style plug.   It is good for 80%*240*30 = 5.76 KW.
legendary
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Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
Hey everyone,

This topic is geared towards those of us who are mining in our homes, and how to distribute your mining gear within those confines.  What I'm really interested in finding out is how people who have multiple TH/s at home are doing it.  You so-called garage miners, hobbyists, etc, tell us how you've set things up!

Your standard residence has both 15 and 20 amp circuits.  Those 20 amp circuits are usually occupied by things like your electric range, washer/dryer, etc.  The 15 amp ones manage everything else - outlets, lights, etc.

Under continuous load a 15 amp circuit can provide 1440 watts.  Since you've got your miners running 24/7, that's what I'd count as continuos load Smiley.  We'll use the Antminer S1 as our hardware.  It's pretty cheap (about 0.5BTC) and at normal settings claims 360 watt power usage for 180GH/s, so it's a great candidate for the hobbyist.

I read accounts on these boards about folks with 6+ S1s running at their home.  At most you're driving 4 of them on a single circuit, which would max out that circuit's capacity for continuous load.  So, you'll need to consume about 1.5 circuits for your mining.  Do you all just shut those rooms down to anything other than mining?  Sorry kids, you can't have separate bedrooms any longer, daddy's gotta mine some BTC!

I'll share my setup, which is currently 2 S1s.  I have them over clocked and both are driven from a single Corsair HX1050.  Together they draw about 800-850 watts.  They are in the basement for a few reasons:
  • It's cooler down there
  • Not a lot of power used down there on a regular basis
  • No more complaining from the significant other about "those damn mining things"

So, tell us your setups!  How'd you distribute your miners around the house?
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